The Snowman Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Hmm. Thinking GEM is a little overdone (as is to be expected), and ECMWF is the outlier. Not around my computer now to look over all the models and such, but I'm not biting on the Euro at the moment, as everyone else has expressed. Fun times ahead... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 What's up with the EURO and near 40° in NE IL Sunday! Would end up with drizzle if that run was right. Those conditions would wipe out all the high ratio snow that has fallen. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 What's up with the EURO and near 40° in NE IL Sunday! Would end up with drizzle if that run was right. Those conditions would wipe out all the high ratio snow that has fallen.I'm sure you're not buying into this model. No way is it going to hit 40 and the qpf is laughable. If ,and thats a big if, all the other models follow suit then I will bow down to King Euro. This clipper really has alot going for it and the models should trend wetter with each run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim the weatherman Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 very good point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 18z NAM still has a strong Clipper for Sunday and it snows in low/mid teens for N IL/S WI but then temps rise into upper 20's.low 30's before crashing once SLP passes. Track is not ideal but still produces snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 18z NAM still has a strong Clipper for Sunday and it snows in low/mid teens for N IL/S WI but then temps rise into upper 20's.low 30's before crashing once SLP passes. Track is not ideal but still produces snow. Still sounds too high.If it does get that warm, I'm washing my car! haha Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Winds look like they could be impressive not to mention the temperature drop if this verifies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim the weatherman Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 still looks impressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Not impressive in terms of precipitation, but could have ground blizzard potential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim the weatherman Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 we need to watch for no/il to no/in for this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 From Skilling for Friday/Saturday Clipper... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 My p&c shows 2-4 for tomorrow night which is up from 1-3 earlier. From what I have been reading and seeing most are saying the Sun-Mon system should lay down 3-6 so we shall see. Edit: WWA has been issued by LOT for tomorrow into Saturday am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 18z GFS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 wow models all over the place La Crosse saying heaviest to fall over central and north central WI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoToSeattle Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Interesting to see the models all over the place -- typical for clippers and for that matter any snowfall event this season.Does anyone know how/if they sample clipper systems? Do the models have the same problem they do with systems that are coming over the top from the Pacific because of a lack of sampling? Just curous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicR Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 18z GFS... Looks better at least for Sun clipper but does keep heaviest south. Hoping for at least 3-6 inch event with Sun clipper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMartin Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 (TheWeatherSpace.com) – A clipper system will quickly move across the Great Lakes region on Friday, which may cause blowing snow conditions for Western Michigan and parts of Indiana and Ohio later in the period.http://www.theweatherspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/12314a-300x200.jpgA quick moving system called an Alberta Clipper will come through the area. 1-3″ of snow is likely for the Upper Midwest, which is really no big deal for them. Other areas will see additional lake effect snowfall in Western Michigan to Northern Indiana, with 3-6″ of additional snowfall on-top of what is there now being likely, with gusty wind potential for blowing snow.Other areas of lake effect snowfall will be in Central/Northern Ohio to Northwestern Pennsylvania. Up to 6″ of snowfall will be possible due to the lake effect influence in these areas … especially around Cleveland, OH. This also is an area will BLIZZARD-LIKE conditions will be possible due to the strong winds along the arctic front.If trends continue for blowing snowfall with the snow conditions across the heavier snowfall areas listed above … Blizzard Advisory/Warning products may be required … Quote <p>Southern California Weather Authority.com CEO and Senior Meteorologist<br> TheWeatherSpace.com CEO and Senior Meteorologist<br><br> SCWXA Website - <a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.southerncaliforniaweatherauthority.com/">http://www.southerncaliforniaweatherauthority.com/</a><br> SCWXA Facebook - <a class="bbc_url" href="https://www.facebook.com/SouthernCaliforniaWeather">https://www.facebook.com/SouthernCaliforniaWeather</a><br><br> TWS Website - <a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.theweatherspace.com/">http://www.theweatherspace.com/</a><br> TWS Facebook - <a class="bbc_url" href="https://www.facebook.com/TheWeatherSpaceNetwork">https://www.facebook.com/TheWeatherSpaceNetwork</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 The Clipper Friday night should be getting better sampling on tonights 00z runs, Sunday Clipper more than likely Saturday morning. Sunday Clipper will be the one to pay attention starting Friday 00z runs. Hopefully it can juice up some more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Dubzz Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 DVN says 1-2" for each event, followed by the brutal cold! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicR Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I am thinking general 1-2 inches tommorow with a 2-5 inch band in S WI/N IL/MI/IN/OH with Sunday clipper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicR Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Tommorow night looking pretty nice with snow and blowing snow LOT:URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGENATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO IL809 PM CST THU JAN 23 2014...DANGEROUSLY COLD WIND CHILLS TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY MORNINGTHEN GUSTY WINDS AND NEW SNOWFALL WILL BRING HAZARDOUS TRAVELCONDITIONS LATE FRIDAY MORNING THROUGH EARLY SATURDAY MORNING....THE COMBINATION OF SUBZERO TEMPERATURES AND WEST TO SOUTHWESTWINDS OF 10 TO 15 MPH OVERNIGHT WILL RESULT IN WIND CHILL VALUESFALLING TO 20 BELOW TO 30 BELOW ZERO INTO FRIDAY MORNING. VERYWINDY CONDITIONS WILL THEN DEVELOP FRIDAY AS SOUTHWEST WINDSINCREASE TO 25 TO 35 MPH WITH GUSTS TO 45 MPH BY AFTERNOON. THISWILL LEAD TO BLOWING AND DRIFTING OF SNOW ALREADY ON THE GROUND...AND THEN FALLING SNOW IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP FRIDAY AFTERNOON ANDCONTINUE THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT WITH 1 TO 3 INCHES OF ACCUMULATIONPOSSIBLE. CONTINUED WINDY CONDITIONS THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT COMBINEDWITH THE NEWLY FALLING SNOW WILL CONTINUE TO PRESENT A HAZARD WITHREDUCED VISIBILITY AND BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW. SNOW SHOULDTAPER OFF AND END EARLY SATURDAY MORNING.ILZ003>006-008-010>014-019>023-032-033-039-INZ001-002-010-011-019-241030-/O.CON.KLOT.WC.Y.0004.000000T0000Z-140124T1600Z//O.CON.KLOT.WW.Y.0018.140124T1400Z-140125T1200Z/WINNEBAGO-BOONE-MCHENRY-LAKE IL-OGLE-LEE-DE KALB-KANE-DUPAGE-COOK-LA SALLE-KENDALL-GRUNDY-WILL-KANKAKEE-LIVINGSTON-IROQUOIS-FORD-LAKE IN-PORTER-NEWTON-JASPER-BENTON-INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...ROCKFORD...BELVIDERE...WOODSTOCK...WAUKEGAN...OREGON...DIXON...DEKALB...AURORA...WHEATON...CHICAGO...OTTAWA...OSWEGO...MORRIS...JOLIET...KANKAKEE...PONTIAC...WATSEKA...PAXTON...GARY...VALPARAISO...MOROCCO...RENSSELAER...FOWLER809 PM CST THU JAN 23 2014 /909 PM EST THU JAN 23 2014/...WIND CHILL ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 10 AM CST /11 AMEST/ FRIDAY......WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 8 AM CST /9 AMEST/ FRIDAY TO 6 AM CST /7 AM EST/ SATURDAY...FOR THE WIND CHILL ADVISORY...* TIMING...OVERNIGHT THROUGH 10 AM CST FRIDAY MORNING.* WIND CHILL VALUES...WILL DROP TO BETWEEN 20 BELOW AND 30 BELOW ZERO OVERNIGHT AND EARLY FRIDAY MORNING.* IMPACTS...FROST BITE AND HYPOTHERMIA CAN OCCUR IN A MATTER OF MINUTES.FOR THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY...* TIMING...FROM 8 AM CST /9 AM EST/ FRIDAY TO 6 AM CST /7 AM EST/ SATURDAY.* SOUTHWEST WINDS WILL INCREASE TO 25 TO 35 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 45 MPH BY EARLY FRIDAY AFTERNOON...WITH LIGHT SNOW EXPECTED TO DEVELOP. LIGHT SNOW WILL INCREASE IN INTENSITY FRIDAY NIGHT... WITH 1 TO 3 INCHES OF ACCUMULATION POSSIBLE.* IMPACTS...BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW WILL LIKELY DEVELOP WITH THE STRONG WINDS FRIDAY AND...AND WILL LIKELY WORSEN WITH THE ADDITION OF FALLING AND ACCUMULATING SNOW LATER FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND NIGHT. ROADS MAY BECOME SNOW COVERED AND HAZARDOUS...ESPECIALLY IN OPEN AREAS...WITH SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED VISIBILITIES.PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...A WIND CHILL ADVISORY MEANS THAT THE WIND WILL COMBINE WITH THEVERY COLD AIR TO GENERATE LOW WIND CHILLS. THIS WILL RESULT INFROST BITE AND LEAD TO HYPOTHERMIA IF PRECAUTIONS ARE NOT TAKEN.IF YOU MUST VENTURE OUTDOORS...MAKE SURE YOU WEAR A HAT ANDGLOVES.A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR SNOW AND BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOWMEANS THAT VISIBILITIES WILL BE LIMITED DUE TO STRONG WINDSBLOWING SNOW AROUND. USE CAUTION WHEN TRAVELING...ESPECIALLY INOPEN AREAS.&& Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 12km NAM > 69 hours. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 00z NAM going way north with Sunday Clipper now...I guess the King Euro had it right this time around. 987mb SLP in C WI but still swings accumulating snow ahead of the system with temps in low teens during the snow. Warm front passes on through ushering warmer temps into low 30's, then they crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Yawn as far as precip goes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicR Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Yawn as far as precip goes Agree but I think 1-5 inches seems like a good bet for chunk of Lakes over next 3 days with the 2 clippers. I still got mine from LES so it will add to it then the major cold early next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 SREF's are on the rise for ORD...mean is .30qpf, earlier today it was .22qpf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicR Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 SREF's are on the rise for ORD...mean is .30qpf, earlier today it was .22qpf ORD might break 50 inches on season by Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 GFS Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 thats widespread 3-5". id take it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Really loading on the moisture. Too bad the NAM and EURO don't agree. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 You never know Geo's, this Clipper is pretty potent, Euro/NAM/GFS may start turning the corner as better sampling is taken within the next day or two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Wasn't it the GGEM that started the westward trend for the Clipper last weekend??? Edit: Could be that the GGEM has a better handle on these Clippers since they are coming out of Canada and its a Canadien model. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 looks like GFS has good moisture. Canadian looks potent. hopefully euro and nam hop onboard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 00z Euro coming back south... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 00z Euro shows the Clipper weakening as it heads SE...on the right track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 12z NAM... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 12z GFS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 GGEM way north compared to 0z run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 It will definitely be an interesting weekend with snow and blowing snow. At least the temps will be bearable before the bottom drops out. Next week looks dry and cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 GGEM way north compared to 0z run.Looks to be on its own for now. Not sure how its track record has been but it will probably adjust back south per the other models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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