Minny_Weather Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 Was in Grand Forks tonight for work. Drove thru moderate snow coming home. About 1.5" of powder on my balcony. 4*F. 2 1 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 Officially 0.2" of new snow fell in Grand Rapids yesterday. That now gives grand Rapids a total of 2.7" for January and for the season Grand Rapids is now at 8.0" At this time it is cloudy here with a temperature of 26. There is a trace of snow on the ground. That includes some of the snow that fell late yesterday and the old snow piles that have hung on since the heavy wet snow that fell in late December. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 6z Euro with some small changes from the 0z thru the weekend. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubuque473 Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 I have a chance at a few inches today.. 1 1 Quote Dubuque 2007-2008 Winter 78.1" Total snowfall February Snowfall 32.5" City salt usage : 12,211 tons Days of measurable snow : 40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/17/2021 at 6:01 PM, whatitdo said: Yep. Feels like a lousy southern winter event if that. Need more cold Never underestimate the lake. You might score well with tonight's lake enhancement. Looks to stay a 1/2 county south of me tonight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Tom said: For the late weekend system, both the GGEM/EURO are pretty similar while the GFS is farther N and warmer. Last night's 00z Euro showing this for the 1st/2nd wave....it's still showing a warm nose out ahead of the main SLP which brings a snow to mix scenario around here and back to all snow on Monday. 00z EPS... But wait, it doesn't stop there....the next storm system is right on its heals and both the op and ensembles are seeing it... Maybe for once this winter this will pan out to something plowable as most of us really want to track a fun storm for once this winter. Don't want to get on the hype train just yet but having the Euro on your side is a plus. I know it hasn't performed the best this winter but really none of the models have. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKEKC Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 Kansas City and I'm sure other surrounding cities should be on pace for a record warm meteorological winter. We are currently running close to 6 degrees above average for Dec. and Jan. We will add to that this week with 45-60 degree weather in the region this week. Lezak mentioned a block forming in his blog this morning which will influence the model data. we shall see as I like the active look to the data, don't like the temperature outlook. Most if not all of the storms will be rain in KC. Plenty of time for that to change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 Nice blog today from Lezak discussing the blocking that is setting up. https://www.kshb.com/weather/weather-blog-looking-ahead-to-afc-championship-sunday-a-series-of-storms 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, Clinton said: Nice blog today from Lezak discussing the blocking that is setting up. https://www.kshb.com/weather/weather-blog-looking-ahead-to-afc-championship-sunday-a-series-of-storms Thanks for sharing this bud! Very informative! 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 Attm, its 28F under cloudy skies w a light snowcover around. Have to watch tanite as an intense LES band might affect SEMI. I think I might be a little too far north for it, but nevertheless, I could get clipped by it. Note: still watching the late weekend storm. Not crawling into it as of yet. Way too early. Nice to have a potential though, "finally." Have to boost those snowfall totals in the dept. 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Stacsh said: Never underestimate the lake. You might score well with tonight's lake enhancement. Looks to stay a 1/2 county south of me tonight. I might be a little too far north....... Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 GFS for the initial wave that produces long-duration, light-to-moderate snow. The GFS has now turned the bigger second wave into a suppressed rainer. Remember how the GFS, just a couple days ago, was cutting this bigger wave up to Lake Superior? The blocking won and the GFS lost. 1 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 5 hours ago, Tom said: For the late weekend system, both the GGEM/EURO are pretty similar while the GFS is farther N and warmer. Last night's 00z Euro showing this for the 1st/2nd wave....it's still showing a warm nose out ahead of the main SLP which brings a snow to mix scenario around here and back to all snow on Monday. 00z EPS... But wait, it doesn't stop there....the next storm system is right on its heals and both the op and ensembles are seeing it... I had my kicking leg back ready to punt and now this?? Euro better not be trolling mby 2 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 GFS has another 1-4" for many along I-80 Tuesday/Wednesday. That system looks like it will be better, but the GFS isn't very robust with the cold sector precip. Here's the total for all waves. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 @whatitdo Congrats on joining the WWA party. Should be a good time this evening. .UPDATE... Issued at 1002 AM EST Tue Jan 19 2021 We added Kalamazoo County to the advisory. With the likelihood of the snow to impact the intersection of I 94 and US 131 we went ahead and included this county in the advisory. The morning guidance that is coming shows a several inches of snow possible for the Kalamazoo region as well. 2 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye said: GFS has another 1-4" for many along I-80 Tuesday/Wednesday. That system looks like it will be better, but the GFS isn't very robust with the cold sector precip. Here's the total for all waves. Too far out to worry about any single model specifics. Just good to see the globals with system(s) in our neck of the woods imho. Ofc, with much more storm action/success this winter you may have more confidence at this range. Understandable tbh. I remember the good years when everything seemed to work out around here too. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 12z GGEM looks like an I-80 on north snow scenario with the 1st wave...2nd storm looks juiced but tracks farther south as a rainer like the GFS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 GFSv16 (parallel) is generally weakish and suppressed with everything after the initial wave. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Tom said: 12z GGEM looks like an I-80 on north snow scenario with the 1st wave...2nd storm looks juiced but tracks farther south as a rainer like the GFS... Mentioned elsewhere, timing of ejection will be critical in this set-up. Going to be days waiting for that to get sorted out. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 It'd be a shame if the stronger, juiced-up second wave gets wasted as a suppressed rainer. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, jaster220 said: Mentioned elsewhere, timing of ejection will be critical in this set-up. Going to be days waiting for that to get sorted out. Yup, I agree wrt the 2nd stronger wave, just commenting on the run...needless to say, there appears to be some consistency in today's 12z suite thus far. Interested to see the Euro/UKIE later today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 Canadian is similar to the GFS with back to back events on Saturday/Sat night and then a small break and more precip Sunday and Sunday night. Here is snow totals through midnight Sunday night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 The snow never ends on the Canadian. It's just wave after wave of snow. It would be a dream come true if this is what happened. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 GFS and Canadian both show a surge of mild air at the end of the month. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, bud2380 said: The snow never ends on the Canadian. It's just wave after wave of snow. It would be a dream come true if this is what happened. Which is why it won't, lol. 6 minutes ago, Hawkeye said: GFS and Canadian both show a surge of mild air at the end of the month. So if it does happen, would be like a repeat of Feb 2018 here. Over-running wave train followed by 61F and historic flooding. Let's hope not. Don't need more misery piled on this winter season. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 22 minutes ago, Hawkeye said: It'd be a shame if the stronger, juiced-up second wave gets wasted as a suppressed rainer. Unless there's some strong arctic HP coming on down, Idk why it would? Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 UK through Monday morning.... some of this is today's weak, narrow clipper. The UK looks like it will suppress the bigger Tues/Wed wave as well. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 This is for todays event from LOT Aviation. Could be interesting for a couple hours The latest few iterations of the RAP have become increasingly aggressive in showing the advection of a narrow plume of steep lapse rates into the snow growth zone this evening. Should the thermal instability become available, a narrow band of heavy snow characterized by snow rates approaching 1"/hr and visibility below 1/2SM may develop somewhere across northern Illinois (looking at 00-03Z for timing). At this point, it appears the best potential for such a band to develop would be south and west of all terminals. However, trends will need to be monitored closely. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 37 minutes ago, bud2380 said: The snow never ends on the Canadian. It's just wave after wave of snow. It would be a dream come true if this is what happened. Oz Euro and 12z Canadian do look like a nice hit for most of us. I know there are a lot of moving parts, as always, to figure out like some phasing issues, how strong of a blocking will be in place and ejection issues. Looks like a decent baroclinic zone draped around the area which is a plus. Looking forward to the 12z Euro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted January 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 This is no hint of Arctic air anymore in any range of guidance.. 10 days ago all I heard was SSW and Arctic is coming. What happened to the SSW and Arctic air that was almost certainly coming??? 5 1 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 Today's clipper has trended northeast and it appears my area will get very little. Chicagoland should get an inch or two. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Grizzcoat said: This is no hint of Arctic air anymore in any range of guidance.. 10 days ago all I heard was SSW and Arctic is coming. What happened to the SSW and Arctic air that was almost certainly coming??? Might happen in February but I have never been a big fan of super cold plus those artic highs always seem to suppress big storms or shred them to nada. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 This is cruel and unusual punishment and if this came to fruition Trump would have to place the GFS on the pardon list. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 Very pleased to announce a new "Greek Market" in downtown Detroit. I was there earlier today doing some shopping. It reads "coming soon," but it has been already opened to the public now for several weeks. http://greektownmarket.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/baklikon.jpg 2 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDR Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 Better get that pardon done fast because this time tomorrow he has no power!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 The Euro has become very weak with the weekend snow across the region. Just a few days ago Tom posted about keeping politics out of the forum, but some of you people just can't help yourselves. 2 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 The Euro is unimpressive with the first couple waves. The energy that ejects from the sw hits the blocking and goes poof. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstorm83 Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 It seems like every model has been keeping any appreciable accumulations post day 7 in southeast Nebraska. Going to be discussing this in the Feb thread if the the time frame doesn't move as the days pass Quote Snowfall in Lincoln, NE: 2017-18: 21.4" 2018-19: 55.5" 2019-20: 17.6" 2020-21: 49.4" 2021-22: 5.1" Average: 26" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMT Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 I'll take the Canadian for $300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 The Euro has the final slug of good energy slowly traversing the region late in the period. Alas, after dumping big time on NE into central IA, this energy also hits the blocking over the lakes and gets squashed southeastward. 1 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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