CentralNebWeather Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, james1976 said: I remember that very well. I think I had 1.5-1.75" of ice There are still trees 14 years later that you can tell were damaged. They survived but look odd. I lost 2 huge trees from my backyard. We were off of school until the 3rd week of January. We went out and lived with my wife’s parents in the country as they had a tractor generator. Grocery stores were closed along with gas stations due to no electricity. You had to drive 30-45 miles to get gas and groceries, but the roads had over an inch of ice so you really didn’t want to drive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Clinton said: I don't know what could change to make it colder, there is no artic air to draw from. That is unfortunately a massive problem. Stay safe. I will probably call my brother in Shawnee tonight to potentially start preparing to have foods on hand and maybe getting ahold of a generator that you hope to never have to use. A big city like the KC metro would be devastated. I am thinking worst case scenario, but I’m also someone who tries to be prepared. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlgamer Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, Clinton said: This is looking like a devastating ice storm imo. Yeah it is...you just have to hope the temp stays close to 32F as possible to minimize the damage. Ice storms are the one thing I think all winter weather enthusiasts hate. 1 Quote 23-24 seasonal snow total: 17.8" (as of 3/9/24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Whats Euro showing for ice accumulation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, mlgamer said: Yeah it is...you just have to hope the temp stays close to 32F as possible to minimize the damage. Ice storms are the one thing I think all winter weather enthusiasts hate. You also hope the wind is minimal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 The problem with the ice storm we had In 2006, was that it rained for almost 48 hours at 18-20 degrees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 12z Euro precip maps 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, Clinton said: 12z Euro precip maps Yikes. That would be an epic disaster if it verified. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Up close look at ice in KC metro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, CentralNebWeather said: Yikes. That would be an epic disaster if it verified. We haven't had a bad ice storm in close to 6 years so...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, Clinton said: Up close look at ice in KC metro. My gosh. I would hope weather forecasters start educating the public of the potential without scaring them. Many in a city wouldn’t be able to cope if electricity would be out for extended periods as maybe those in rural areas could. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlgamer Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, Clinton said: Up close look at ice in KC metro. Looks like the air temps hover mostly around 30-31 during the event. Not trying to minimize the situation but temps in the 20s would be much worse...or like what@CentralNebWeather experienced. Hopefully this all changes for the better on future runs. 1 Quote 23-24 seasonal snow total: 17.8" (as of 3/9/24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, mlgamer said: Looks like the air temps hover mostly around 30-31 during the event. Not trying to minimize the situation but temps in the 20s would be much worse...or like what@CentralNebWeather experienced. Hopefully this all changes for the better on future runs. That is a better scenario if temps are closer to 32. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted December 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 This 2nd system looks gross. Hope it slides SE. 1 Quote 2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 10.2" (12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") (1/1: 6.4") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 12z Euro mean keeps trending west. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwxguy Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just need 50ish more miles west Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstorm83 Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 41 minutes ago, jcwxguy said: Just need 50ish more miles west I like the look of being on the NW edge of the 2” mean. I just hope it’s not overcorrecting and ends up back to the SE. It’s funny that a couple days ago the Euro had Memphis in the snow zone, only about 650 miles SE of Lincoln! 1 Quote Snowfall in Lincoln, NE: 2017-18: 21.4" 2018-19: 55.5" 2019-20: 17.6" 2020-21: 49.4" 2021-22: 5.1" Average: 26" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted December 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Full on winter cocktail with that 2nd system for E IA on the GFSs. Quote 2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 10.2" (12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") (1/1: 6.4") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlgamer Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 TOP NWS is actually getting a bit excited about this system. I think the trend may end up more rain and mixed precip than snow...but what do I know...lol. Excerpt from TOP AFD: Quote New Year`s Eve into the day on Friday is trending toward the active side as well weather wise - this time heavy snow could be in cards. As a deepening upper low lifts into the area with the long wave trough slow to move through, a TROWAL feature develops and extends west into the area. Still no amounts to officially mention as we will take the tomorrows system one at time first. Do expect that amounts for Friday morning could be somewhat impressive. 1 Quote 23-24 seasonal snow total: 17.8" (as of 3/9/24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, mlgamer said: TOP NWS is actually getting a bit excited about this system. I think the trend may end up more rain and mixed precip than snow...but what do I know...lol. Excerpt from TOP AFD: Looks like the trend is in your favor. I think it's gonna be a rainfest here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 36 minutes ago, Clinton said: Looks like the trend is in your favor. I think it's gonna be a rainfest here. I think you and myself might get warm-edged out or iced over here. I love the moisture out of the gulf, as someone mentioned, but at the cost of getting rained out or apocalyptic ice, no thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 23 minutes ago, OKwx2k4 said: I think you and myself might get warm-edged out or iced over here. I love the moisture out of the gulf, as someone mentioned, but at the cost of getting rained out or apocalyptic ice, no thanks. Looking at the 18z RGEM getting iced is a real possibility. Hoping for a colder trend cause I think the global models will trend back south and east. Ice is hard on livestock and isn't real good on me either lol. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 27 minutes ago, Clinton said: Looking at the 18z RGEM getting iced is a real possibility. Hoping for a colder trend cause I think the global models will trend back south and east. Ice is hard on livestock and isn't real good on me either lol. Same here. Plus it took just shy of 11 yrs to recover from the tree destruction here because of the last major ice (2+ inch thickness) event we had here in the Ozarks. I hate ice. It's trying to do a phase type thing like what happens over the bering sea, where one absorbs the other. If that will work out correctly, deeper cold and a farther SE option are fully on table still yet. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 20 minutes ago, OKwx2k4 said: Same here. Plus it took just shy of 11 yrs to recover from the tree destruction here because of the last major ice (2+ inch thickness) event we had here in the Ozarks. I hate ice. It's trying to do a phase type thing like what happens over the bering sea, where one absorbs the other. If that will work out correctly, deeper cold and a farther SE option are fully on table still yet. 18z Euro doing just what your talking about, still not cold enough for snow on the front end but very icy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 28 minutes ago, Clinton said: 18z Euro doing just what your talking about, still not cold enough for snow on the front end but very icy. Yep. It sucks, but the good news is that the euro can have a west bias, but you and I both need the suppression for about another 200 mi. Still have a ways to go, but this is going to be crappy to track and put confidence in either way. Still have a full range of anywhere from epic disaster to plain rain we could see. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 could this one cut up all the way up here? Haven't even begun to look at it. Trails still are no where close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Our KC area peeps can’t like the look of this on the NAM. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 A typical New Years storm would have all snow in the red area. 2 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 ICON with a big shift east hits KC with snow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mlgamer Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, Clinton said: ICON with a big shift east hits KC with snow. Cuts Shawnee Co KS in half...0" northwest corner...4+" southeast corner. I'm somewhere in between... 2 Quote 23-24 seasonal snow total: 17.8" (as of 3/9/24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, mlgamer said: Cuts Shawnee Co KS in half...0" northwest corner...4+" southeast corner. I'm somewhere in between... RGEM looks good too. A little icy on my side but more sleet this run than frz rain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Clinton Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 0z GFS. So it looks like we need a weaker low that will rap in less warm air. Looks like that will be the only way to get a decent widespread snowfall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 parallel GFS Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 CMC is loaded with ice. yuck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 0z CMC did have a little snow on the backside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstorm83 Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 UKIE has ticked NW. Omaha/Lincoln get scraped, just need another 30 miles. 3 Quote Snowfall in Lincoln, NE: 2017-18: 21.4" 2018-19: 55.5" 2019-20: 17.6" 2020-21: 49.4" 2021-22: 5.1" Average: 26" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Snowman Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, snowstorm83 said: UKIE has ticked NW. Omaha/Lincoln get scraped, just need another 30 miles. Incredible work by the Nebraska crew reeling this one in by sheer willpower; we've done good! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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