Tom Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 12z UKIE... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 UK ticked NW, but not enough to give IC and CR any snow. Keokuk does well this run though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 So far my office is focused on round 1 of this storm and its all icy here. 2nd WWA in 2 days but not one I can get very excited about. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 Euro ticking NW as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, bud2380 said: Euro ticking NW as well. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 If the Euro is correct, some areas currently under no headlines in SE Iowa will need to go from nothing to winter storm warnings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 12z Euro very juiced 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 And the ugly side to this Euro run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 Kuchera 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 @mlgamerThis has to look good for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 There is a chance the NWS will have to issue a Winter Weather Advisory for Johnson County and areas south and east in Iowa. It's going to be a really close call for Iowa City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 The Euro has a secondary piece of energy on Saturday. Previous runs had this up into E Iowa, but this run shifted well to the southeast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 12z Euro...I'd be stoked to get another 3-5" event...maybe isolated spots get more??? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlgamer Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Clinton said: @mlgamerThis has to look good for you. Yeah, I sit right on top of the first "1" in the "10.1" in Shawnee Co. That ice looks bad on the Euro. I'm sure you're prepped. Sure hope that doesn't happen. 1 Quote 23-24 seasonal snow total: 17.8" (as of 3/9/24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, mlgamer said: Yeah, I sit right on top of the first "1" in the "10.1" in Shawnee Co. That ice looks bad on the Euro. I'm sure you're prepped. Sure hope that doesn't happen. Prepped as I can be. It could be a tough weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 45 minutes ago, Tom said: 12z Euro...I'd be stoked to get another 3-5" event...maybe isolated spots get more??? Me too, tho it looks dependent on the trailing wave for any decent snow here. You look better positioned attm. Hoping NW bumps cease and desist. 2 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 12z Euro...nice swath of mod snowfall over E IA/N IL...I'll take a 5" snow mean all day long... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlgamer Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 TOP NWS has upgraded the WWA to a WSW (5-7") for areas south and east of Topeka. Topeka and points west and north remain in the WWA (1-4+"). So...as usual...I'm in a WWA while a county right next to me is in a WSW. 2 1 Quote 23-24 seasonal snow total: 17.8" (as of 3/9/24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 The warnings and advisories have really lit up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 GRR has upgraded to 2-4" for my area. I'll take it. If we stay all snow 3" or more seems likely. One thing I do hate is melting during the day and refreezing at night. It's annoying in a "warmer" than normal pattern like this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 DVN issued a winter weather advisory for my backyard. . 2-4” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 WWA says 2-4” but the point forecast was reduced from 1-3” to less than an inch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 18z RGEM. KC seems to be the target Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_GradStudent Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 https://whatgoesonoutside.wordpress.com/2020/12/31/major-winter-storm-takes-aim-on-the-midwest/?fbclid=IwAR3Lzso8d-S9ZN_-kiN-OB4TicL-0goHePo2xhv-tGx5CX-nYsDKJ9KfoOo Check out my thoughts for KC metro and subscribe to my weather blog! Click on WhatGoesOnOutside and scroll down and you'll see where you can subscribe. Thanks!! Excited for this storm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 18z ICON 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 18z Euro first storm 18z Euro with 2nd disturbance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 Hafta hope the Euro has this. Other models here show much less snow. Hoping for last-minute colder profiles aloft. Maybe heavier rates will come to my rescue. Perhaps 10 years since a "now cast" event delivered a positive surprise. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 A few updates to KC afternoon AFD AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION National Weather Service Kansas City/Pleasant Hill MO 707 PM CST Thu Dec 31 2020 .Update... Issued at 706 PM CST THU DEC 31 2020 Sent an update this evening to the winter weather headlines to better align the counties with their predominate weather hazard. One segment of the Winter Storm Warning includes the counties with the higher ice amounts, while the second segment of the Winter Storm Warning includes the counties with the higher snow amounts. The Winter Weather Advisory area is still expecting mainly snow. Timing still looks good for all winter weather headlines. && .Discussion... Issued at 310 PM CST THU DEC 31 2020 **Main message: A dangerous winter storm will to move into the area after midnight tonight and continue through the day Friday. This storm will produce significant ice and snow amounts providing for extremely hazardous travel conditions thus traveling is not recommended. In addition, winds with this system will be out of the NNE to N gusting to 20 to 30 kts which will aid in bringing branches and power lines down leading to power outages. A Winter Storm warning is in effect from midnight tonight through 8PM tomorrow. **Forecast Changes: A continued slight shift in the track of the storm to the south and east shifting heaviest snow and ice slightly eastward. A slight slowing of the system has also occurred. **Main forecast challenges: 1) The strength of the warm nose continues to vary amongst the models however, most now support precipitation onset over the area (except NE Kansas and NW Missouri) as freezing rain. 2) The track of the storm is in fairly good agreement. With the track shifting a little further south and east that may usher in the colder air aloft quicker cooling the warm nose with perhaps a quicker transition from freezing rain to snow. This has lead to increasing snow accumulations along and just south of the I-35 corridor into the KC Metro. 3) The possible convective nature of precipitation (and strength of the warm nose) may limit freezing rain accretion. 4) Surface temperatures across the southeastern CWA are progged by several operational models such as the GFS and NAM to rise above freezing. However, Hi-res models keep temperatures below freezing and climatology would suggest that will be the case keeping precipitation in the form of freezing rain. Discussion: The upper level trough that will bring the precipitation to the area tonight is evident on water vapor imagery across southern Texas. Moisture has begun streaming north out ahead of the system with precipitation already extending from the Red River Valley to the southern Ozark. This upper level system will continue to move north this evening becoming stacked. By 06Z, the closed low will reach the Red River and the northern edge of the precipitation shield will reach the southern CWA. precipitation will continue to move north into the are through the overnight hours as the system moves into eastern Oklahoma. As the precipitation spreads into the area, it will encounter, a stout warm nose of 2-5C and below freezing surface temps. This will allow precipitation to begin as freezing rain for most of the warning area with the exception of the northwestern CWA where the warm nose is not as strong or nonexistent. A period of freezing rain is expected from along the I- 35 corridor south and east. As the stacked low moves into into southwestern Missouri near sunrise tomorrow we will begin to see winds shift to the north ushering colder temps aloft and we will begin to see conditions transition from freezing rain to snow from northwest to southeast during the day on Friday as the system moves south of the area across the I-44 corridor. This will allow for a almost all snow scenario to the northwest of the I-35 corridor with generally light snow being the predominant p-type with snow totals between 1-3 inches. Along and just south of the I-35 corridor is where we expect to see a freezing rain transition to snow earlier on Friday allowing for a band of 3-5 inches of snow with a tenth to perhaps as much as a quarter inch of ice. Further south and east the warm nose will be slower to cool and as such here we will produce ice accumulations between quarter to half an inch with as much as third quarters of an inch possible with snow amounts of 1-2 inches. By Friday evening the stacked system moves to eastern Missouri and precipitation will end from southwest to northeast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 And the precip has began as sleet. Radar indicates it will be changing to frz. rain shortly. Temp at 28. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintbeed1993 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 This storm is disgusting. 50 mile miss to the south. Goes from 5-7 inches around Kansas City to literally less than an inch 50 miles north. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 SR models keeping my area at or below freezing the entire event (2m temps). NMM has a nice looking switch to snow Saturday evening. Hoping for something like that to play out. Also, it's quite a bit colder tonight ahead of the system than the 0z NAM had. 19F attm 2 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSmokey Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 A tractor tractor has overturned on westbound I-70 at the 133 mile marker in Boone County. Please avoid the area. #BooneCouty https://twitter.com/MSHPTrooperF/status/1344899900010541057/photo/1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 6z NAM really upping totals for Iowa city and even CR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 00z Euro trended a little colder and thus a bit better with snow amounts for the 1st wave across N IL. The last couple days, the RPM was showing the least amount of snow but this mornings recent run brought a much better swath of 3-4" of Snow across most of N IL. ORD actually bumped up to 4.6" which could be a good sign that we will primarily see snow. I still think thermals are marginal and I'll have to deal with some freezing rain or sleet for much of the morning/early afternoon. The Euro is the only model that brings the second wave solidly up into all of N IL. Most of S MI look to end up doing quite well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 00z Euro Control... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 00z EPS snow mean...looking better for S MI folks...that second wave is trending stronger for ya'll.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 00z UKIE... @KCSmokey @Clinton @jaster220 and S MI/N IN members looking good... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 06z Euro... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 Good morning Happy New Year currently have no power as I have about a half inch of ice. Will post a few pictures in a minute the good news is the freezing rain has now turned to sleet hopefully it will flip to snow and make it a little whiter outside 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 Ice pictures 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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