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So far my office is focused on round 1 of this storm and its all icy here. 2nd WWA in 2 days but not one I can get very excited about.

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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45 minutes ago, Tom said:

12z Euro...I'd be stoked to get another 3-5" event...maybe isolated spots get more???

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Me too, tho it looks dependent on the trailing wave for any decent snow here. You look better positioned attm. Hoping NW bumps cease and desist.

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Hafta hope the Euro has this. Other models here show much less snow. Hoping for last-minute colder profiles aloft. Maybe heavier rates will come to my rescue. Perhaps 10 years since a "now cast" event delivered a positive surprise.

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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A few updates to KC afternoon AFD

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
National Weather Service Kansas City/Pleasant Hill MO
707 PM CST Thu Dec 31 2020

.Update...
Issued at 706 PM CST THU DEC 31 2020

Sent an update this evening to the winter weather headlines to
better align the counties with their predominate weather hazard.
One segment of the Winter Storm Warning includes the counties with
the higher ice amounts, while the second segment of the Winter
Storm Warning includes the counties with the higher snow amounts.
The Winter Weather Advisory area is still expecting mainly snow.
Timing still looks good for all winter weather headlines.


&&

.Discussion...
Issued at 310 PM CST THU DEC 31 2020

**Main message: A dangerous winter storm will to move into the area
after midnight tonight and continue through the day Friday. This
storm will produce significant ice and snow amounts providing for
extremely hazardous travel conditions thus traveling is not
recommended. In addition, winds with this system will be out of the
NNE to N gusting to 20 to 30 kts which will aid in bringing branches
and power lines down leading to power outages. A Winter Storm
warning is in effect from midnight tonight through 8PM tomorrow.

**Forecast Changes: A continued slight shift in the track of the
storm to the south and east shifting heaviest snow and ice slightly
eastward. A slight slowing of the system has also occurred.

**Main forecast challenges: 1) The strength of the warm nose
continues to vary amongst the models however, most now support
precipitation onset over the area (except NE Kansas and NW Missouri)
as freezing rain. 2) The track of the storm is in fairly good
agreement. With the track shifting a little further south and east
that may usher in the colder air aloft quicker cooling the warm nose
with perhaps a quicker transition from freezing rain to snow. This
has lead to increasing snow accumulations along and just south of
the I-35 corridor into the KC Metro. 3) The possible convective
nature of precipitation (and strength of the warm nose) may limit
freezing rain accretion. 4) Surface temperatures across the
southeastern CWA are progged by several operational models such as
the GFS and NAM to rise above freezing. However, Hi-res models keep
temperatures below freezing and climatology would suggest that will
be the case keeping precipitation in the form of freezing rain.

Discussion: The upper level trough that will bring the precipitation
to the area tonight is evident on water vapor imagery across southern
Texas. Moisture has begun streaming north out ahead of the system
with precipitation already extending from the Red River Valley to
the southern Ozark. This upper level system will continue to move
north this evening becoming stacked. By 06Z, the closed low will
reach the Red River and the northern edge of the precipitation
shield will reach the southern CWA. precipitation will continue to
move north into the are through the overnight hours as the system
moves into eastern Oklahoma. As the precipitation spreads into the
area, it will encounter, a stout warm nose of 2-5C and below
freezing surface temps. This will allow precipitation to begin as
freezing rain for most of the warning area with the exception of the
northwestern CWA where the warm nose is not as strong or
nonexistent. A period of freezing rain is expected from along the I-
35 corridor south and east. As the stacked low moves into into
southwestern Missouri near sunrise tomorrow we will begin to see
winds shift to the north ushering colder temps aloft and we will
begin to see conditions transition from freezing rain to snow from
northwest to southeast during the day on Friday as the system moves
south of the area across the I-44 corridor. This will allow for a
almost all snow scenario to the northwest of the I-35 corridor with
generally light snow being the predominant p-type with snow totals
between 1-3 inches. Along and just south of the I-35 corridor is
where we expect to see a freezing rain transition to snow earlier on
Friday allowing for a band of 3-5 inches of snow with a tenth to
perhaps as much as a quarter inch of ice. Further south and east the
warm nose will be slower to cool and as such here we will produce
ice accumulations between quarter to half an inch with as much as
third quarters of an inch possible with snow amounts of 1-2 inches.
By Friday evening the stacked system moves to eastern Missouri and
precipitation will end from southwest to northeast.
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SR models keeping my area at or below freezing the entire event (2m temps). NMM has a nice looking switch to snow Saturday evening. Hoping for something like that to play out. Also, it's quite a bit colder tonight ahead of the system than the 0z NAM had. 19F attm

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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00z Euro trended a little colder and thus a bit better with snow amounts for the 1st wave across N IL.  The last couple days, the RPM was showing the least amount of snow but this mornings recent run brought a much better swath of 3-4" of Snow across most of N IL.  ORD actually bumped up to 4.6" which could be a good sign that we will primarily see snow.  I still think thermals are marginal and I'll have to deal with some freezing rain or sleet for much of the morning/early afternoon.  The Euro is the only model that brings the second wave solidly up into all of N IL.  Most of S MI look to end up doing quite well.

 

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