wx_statman Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 I thought I would share some outstanding RAWS readings with you guys. Otherwise they get no exposure, since they are not counted as official by the NWS or the NCDC. They are lost in the proverbial data pile. The RAWS (Remote Automated Weather Stations) are not manned and not quality controlled. Caution needs to be exercised when taking their readings into consideration. Having said that, I feel reasonably confident in the following readings to bring them to light. They are certainly no less suspect than some older COOP readings that are counted as official, when they should probably be reviewed and tossed out. But I digress! Also, the RAWS network only went up in 1985 and is very spotty in nature, with a bunch of different stations coming and going. So the readings below are 1) recent and 2) opportunistic in nature. But I think they're still interesting to look at! January 86F was observed at Red Mound on 1/15/2009. This is an excellent downsloping location just up the coast from Brookings. The highest reliably measured official temperature in Oregon in January is 80F at Brookings on 1/28/1984. Red Mound also hit 82F on January 15th of this year, so it looks like they have no problem exceeding any official reading in Oregon in January under the right circumstances (strong ridge with downslope warming). February 86F was observed at Wheeler Creek on 2/25/1992. This is another great downsloping location just SE of Brookings. The highest reliably measured official temperature in Oregon in February is 85F at both Coquille and Myrtle Point, also on 2/25/1992. September 112F was observed at Trout Creek on 9/2/1988. This appears to be one of the best locations for downslope warming in the Cascade foothills of Oregon, similar to Darrington and Glenoma in Washington. The highest reliably measured official temperature in Oregon in September is 111F at Illahe on 9/3/1955. Trout Creek also recorded 102F on 9/27/2003 and 101F on 10/1/1987, which is the only 100F reading that I am aware of in October anywhere in the Willamette River basin.October 106F was observed at both Powers RS and Wheeler Creek on 10/10/1991. The official Powers COOP station recorded 103F that day. The highest reliably measured official temperature in Oregon in October is 104F at Dora on 10/2/1980 and the next day at Lost Creek Dam on 10/3/1980. -14F was observed at Foster Flat on 10/31/2002. This is a great radiational cooling location in Harney County. The lowest reliably measured official temperature in Oregon in October is -11F at both Seneca and Fort Rock, also on 10/31/2002. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Awesome thread. I love this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Foster Flat often has the lowest recorded daily temp in Oregon. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Fascinating stuff. One that really jumped out was the monthly record high in September 1955. The coldest year of the 20th century and yet it had monthly record setting heat in June (at least in the Seattle area) and September in Oregon. Quite a dynamic year! Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted November 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Fascinating stuff. One that really jumped out was the monthly record high in September 1955. The coldest year of the 20th century and yet it had monthly record setting heat in June (at least in the Seattle area) and September in Oregon. Quite a dynamic year! The two heat waves in 1955 always fascinated me. The June event is a top-5 heat wave for the Puget Sound, and the earliest in the calendar to occur. Downtown Seattle at 100F on 6/9. After a frigid mid summer, PDX hit 98F in September. Those two events would stand out in any year. Even more so in the middle of a historically cold year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 The two heat waves in 1955 always fascinated me. The June event is a top-5 heat wave for the Puget Sound, and the earliest in the calendar to occur. Downtown Seattle at 100F on 6/9. After a frigid mid summer, PDX hit 98F in September. Those two events would stand out in any year. Even more so in the middle of a historically cold year. It almost seems impossible that a period like 1954 through early 1957 ever happened in this climate. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Interesting. I have the following records for Oregon, by monthRecord Hi MaxJan: 80 at Brookings on 28/1994Feb: 85 at Coquille, Myrtle Point on 25/1992Mar: 88 at Brookings on 18/1914Apr: 98 at Cave Junction on 21/2009May: 108 at Cave Junction on 16/2008Jun: 113 at Pelton Dam on 23/1992Jul: 117 at Umatilla on 27/1939 (119 at Pendleton incorrect)Aug: 116 at Spray on 4/1961Sept: 111 at Illahe on 3/1955Oct: 104 at Dora on 2/1980Nov: 88 at Brookings on 2/1929Dec: 79 at Brookings on 11/1951I didn't know about most of those RAWS values, so a big thanks for digging those up. Flynn Prairie near Red Mound hit 83 on Jan 15, 2014 (with a low of 67).Record Lo Min:Jan: -52 at Austin on 8/1937Feb: -54 at Seneca and Ukiah on 9/1933Mar: -30 at Fremont on 1/1922Apr: -23 at Meacham on 1/1936May: 0 at Juniper Lake on 2/1968Jun: 11 at Crater Lake NP on 12/1952Jul: 14 at Fremont on 2/1955Aug: 13 at Seneca on 28/1937Sep: 1 at Seneca on 1/1931Oct: -11 at Seneca and Fort Rock on 31/2002Nov: -32 at Ukiah on 23/1985Dec: -53 at Riverside on 25/1924Rec Lo Max: -21 at Austin on Jan 19, 1937Rec Hi Min: 85 at Arlington on Jul 13, 200224 hour precip:Jan: 9.01 at Port Orford 5E on 16/1974Feb: 7.26 at Valsetz on 1/1927Mar: 8.79 at Brookings on 18/1932Apr: 8.06 at Port Orford 5E on 3/1993May: 6.23 at Laurel Mtn on 6/2009Jun: 7.78 at Laurel Mtn on 7/1985Jul: 4.11 at Port Orford 5E on 1/1983Aug: 4.12 at Langlois on 24/1977Sep: 5.54 at Port Orford 5E on 27/1981Oct: 8.90 at Laurel Mtn on 27/1994Nov: 14.30 at Lees Camp on 6-7/2006 (highest 24 hour total)Dec: 12.33 at Laurel Mtn on 3/2007Monthly Precip:Jan: 47.23 at Valsetz in 1953Feb: 39.51 at Laurel Mtn in 1999Mar: 30.80 at North Fork in 2014Apr: 26.20 at North Fork in 1993May: 13.80 at North Fork in 2013Jun: 13.00 at North Fork in 2010Jul: 8.21 at Nehalem 8NE in 1983Aug: 8.78 at Valsetz in 1968Sep: 18.15 at Laurel Mtn in 2013Oct: 29.71 at Valsetz in 1956Nov: 57.00 at Glenora in 1909Dec: 56.00 at North Fork in 1996Year Max: 204.12 at Laurel Mtn in 1996Year Min: 2.56 at Fields in 2002 3 Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Of note the highest 24 hour precip, highest monthly precip and highest annual precip for WA were all recorded at June Lake24 hour: 15.20 on 6-7/2006Month: 64.60 in 11/2006Calendar Year: 236.60 in 1996 (Water Year slightly higher for 1996-97). 1 Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 There's a report of -60 at Paulina Crater on Jan 22, 1962. I'm not sure of the details surrounding this reading but the topography suggests very cold temps are possible here. Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 There's a report of -60 at Paulina Crater on Jan 22, 1962. I'm not sure of the details surrounding this reading but the topography suggests very cold temps are possible here. Wow. What is the source of that report? Paulina Crater is about 6300' within a caldera so it is conceivable that they have a pretty significant frost hollow there. On the other hand that temp blows away anything else ever recorded in Oregon. The 1962 arctic outbreak was pretty impressive. Salem had a low of 8 on the 22nd and Redmond recorded a -27 which is their all time January record low and tied with last December for their 2nd lowest temp on record. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 This guy has put together a nice listing of cold records in Oregonhttp://www.oregonphotos.com/Oregon-hot-n-cold-records.html Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Coldest three-day spell on record in Oregon:AustinJan 19-21, 1937Jan 19: high of -21 (state record coldest high temp)Jan 20: high of -18, low of -48Jan 21: high of -13, low of -45 Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 January 1937 had like 3-4 separate arctic intrusions.... The coldest one in Salem looks to be the arctic blast in the January 6-8 timeframe. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted November 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Interesting. I have the following records for Oregon, by month Record Hi MaxJan: 80 at Brookings on 28/1994Feb: 85 at Coquille, Myrtle Point on 25/1992Mar: 88 at Brookings on 18/1914Apr: 98 at Cave Junction on 21/2009May: 108 at Cave Junction on 16/2008Jun: 113 at Pelton Dam on 23/1992Jul: 117 at Umatilla on 27/1939 (119 at Pendleton incorrect)Aug: 116 at Spray on 4/1961Sept: 111 at Illahe on 3/1955Oct: 104 at Dora on 2/1980Nov: 88 at Brookings on 2/1929Dec: 79 at Brookings on 11/1951 I didn't know about most of those RAWS values, so a big thanks for digging those up. Flynn Prairie near Red Mound hit 83 on Jan 15, 2014 (with a low of 67). Record Lo Min: Jan: -52 at Austin on 8/1937Feb: -54 at Seneca and Ukiah on 9/1933Mar: -30 at Fremont on 1/1922Apr: -23 at Meacham on 1/1936May: 0 at Juniper Lake on 2/1968Jun: 11 at Crater Lake NP on 12/1952Jul: 14 at Fremont on 2/1955Aug: 13 at Seneca on 28/1937Sep: 1 at Seneca on 1/1931Oct: -11 at Seneca and Fort Rock on 31/2002Nov: -32 at Ukiah on 23/1985Dec: -53 at Riverside on 25/1924 Rec Lo Max: -21 at Austin on Jan 19, 1937Rec Hi Min: 85 at Arlington on Jul 13, 2002 24 hour precip: Jan: 9.01 at Port Orford 5E on 16/1974Feb: 7.26 at Valsetz on 1/1927Mar: 8.79 at Brookings on 18/1932Apr: 8.06 at Port Orford 5E on 3/1993May: 6.23 at Laurel Mtn on 6/2009Jun: 7.78 at Laurel Mtn on 7/1985Jul: 4.11 at Port Orford 5E on 1/1983Aug: 3.61 at Brookings on 29/1983Sep: 5.54 at Port Orford 5E on 27/1981Oct: 8.90 at Laurel Mtn on 27/1994Nov: 14.30 at Lees Camp on 6-7/2006 (highest 24 hour total)Dec: 12.33 at Laurel Mtn on 3/2007 Monthly Precip: Jan: 47.23 at Valsetz in 1953Feb: 39.51 at Laurel Mtn in 1999Mar: 30.80 at North Fork in 2014Apr: 26.20 at North Fork in 1993May: 13.80 at North Fork in 2013Jun: 13.00 at North Fork in 2010Jul: 8.21 at Nehalem 8NE in 1983Aug: 8.78 at Valsetz in 1968Sep: 18.15 at Laurel Mtn in 2013Oct: 29.71 at Valsetz in 1956Nov: 57.00 at Glenora in 1909Dec: 56.00 at North Fork in 1996 Year Max: 204.12 at Laurel Mtn in 1996Year Min: 2.56 at Fields in 2002 Good stuff. I did a comprehensive study of Oregon extreme temperatures back in 2009. I just dug up the post I made on Western. You might like it: http://theweatherforums.com/archive/index.php?/topic/26854-oregons-temperature-extremes/ Thanks for the precip info. That's the first time I've seen something like that summarized for Oregon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted November 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 There's a report of -60 at Paulina Crater on Jan 22, 1962. I'm not sure of the details surrounding this reading but the topography suggests very cold temps are possible here. That's a believable reading. Alkali Lake and The Poplars both hit -38 officially in that cold wave. There were supposedly readings down to -62 in the December 1924 cold wave. Officially both Riverside and Drewsey hit -53. Also Seneca supposedly hit -55 in January 1927, when Ukiah recorded an official -46. And finally there were press reports of readings down to -57 in December 1919. Since official readings were down to -40 in Madras and -37 in Hermiston - far from the coldest locations in Oregon normally - readings into the -50's in cold spots were possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted November 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Wow. What is the source of that report? Paulina Crater is about 6300' within a caldera so it is conceivable that they have a pretty significant frost hollow there. On the other hand that temp blows away anything else ever recorded in Oregon. The 1962 arctic outbreak was pretty impressive. Salem had a low of 8 on the 22nd and Redmond recorded a -27 which is their all time January record low and tied with last December for their 2nd lowest temp on record. I've actually seen that -60 report from Paulina Crater too. I believe it was in the press at the time it happened, and was later quoted (maybe 10 years ago?) on the internet. The January 1962 event was very impressive. Roseburg hit -1 and even Cape Blanco pulled off 30/19. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Good stuff. I did a comprehensive study of Oregon extreme temperatures back in 2009. I just dug up the post I made on Western. You might like it: http://theweatherforums.com/archive/index.php?/topic/26854-oregons-temperature-extremes/ Thanks for the precip info. That's the first time I've seen something like that summarized for Oregon.I did a precip study a few months ago suspecting that June Lake had shattered the "official" WA record annual precip at Wynoochee Oxbow back in the 1930s. Turns out it did by about 50 inches!! That project then spread to several Snotels in Oregon that receive heavy precip...most notably North Fork in eastern Multnomah County. Also Bear Mtn in northern Idaho (ID wettest location). You can find the data on WRCC. 1 Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 We need a station in Paulina Crater...it's our own Peter Sinks basically. Remote and frigid. I'd venture to guess under similar conditions it beats Seneca by a fair margin. Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Good stuff. I did a comprehensive study of Oregon extreme temperatures back in 2009. I just dug up the post I made on Western. You might like it: http://theweatherforums.com/archive/index.php?/topic/26854-oregons-temperature-extremes/ Thanks for the precip info. That's the first time I've seen something like that summarized for Oregon.Amazing post! Allowed me to tweak my own data a bit. I've put together a similar monthly records database for most US states, all Canadian provinces and some Mexican states (work in progress)...so just inquire if you are interested in a particular state/prov. Canadian ones weren't too difficult given the data on Environment Canada's website, the mining just takes a lot of time and patience. There doesn't seem to be a comprehensive list of monthly temp and precip extremes by province. You can find the absolute extremes online for each province but it's interesting to look at it from a monthly perspective IMO. Mexican data comes from the CONAGUA website with a rather friendly Google Maps display with all the stations on it. Precip data for Chiapas is especially impressive. Biggest problem I've come up against are dubious data, specifically extreme high temps with 120 degree readings found not only in Baja California and Sonora but also in Tamaulipas and Veracruz (among others). While I can't completely dismiss those, they seem a tad high. Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Wx Statman, for April what do you think of Cave Junction 98 on 21/2009? Also I noticed you posted a bunch of images of Oregon daily records, however I can't access those images (says I'm not logged in). Any way you could email them to me? chris.callais@iberdrolaren.com Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Since folks may be interested in WA stats here they are:Extreme Max TempJan: 74 at Darrington on 31/1940Feb: 83 at Centerville on 27/1895Mar: 87 at Mottinger on 10/1914Apr: 103 at Wahluke on 28/1934May: 107 at Dallesport on 30/1986Jun: 112 at John Day Dam on 18/1961Jul: 118 at Wahluke on 24/1928Aug: 118 at Ice Harbor Dam on 5/1961Sep: 108 at Glenoma on 3/1988Oct: 99 at Glenoma on 2/1987Nov: 83 at Kosmos on 3/1949Dec: 74 at Sedro Woolley on 5/1939Interesting that the wintertime records are up in NW Washington.Extreme Min Temp:Jan: -42 at Deer Park on 20/1937Feb: -40 at Deer Park on 9/1933 (same night Seneca hit -54)Mar: -25 at Stockdill Ranch (Okanogan Co.) on 4/1955Apr: -7 at Lake Keechelus on 1/1936May: 2 at Mt. Rainier-Camp Muir on 5/2010 (ok, not official but credible)Jun: 11 at Mt. Rainier-Camp Muir on 7/2012Jul: 18 at Mt. Rainier-Camp Muir on 3/2012Aug: 20 at Cascade Tunnel in 1896 (don't have the exact date but in NCDC database)Sep: 11 at Newport on 25/1934Oct: -5 at Bumping Lake on 31/1935Nov: -29 at Ellensburg on 28/1896 (major late Nov arctic blast)Dec: -48 at Mazama and Winthrop on 30/1968Lowest max temp: -21 at Winthrop on Dec 30, 1968Highest min temp: 89 at Kennewick on 2/1977 (iffy credibility).24 hour precip:Jan: 12.00 at Quinault RS on 21/1935Feb: 10.50 at Quinault RS on 19/1968Mar: 10.07 at Quinault RS on 6/1972Apr: 8.92 at Cougar 6E on 12/1954May: 5.52 at Quinault RS on 5/1975Jun: 5.05 at Aberdeen 20NNE on 12/2000Jul: 9.13 at Clearwater on 12/1972Aug: 4.34 at Aberdeen 20NNE on 22/2001Sep: 7.50 at Swift Creek on 28-29/2013 (during the Sept 2013 deluge)Oct: 8.48 at Quinault RS on 10/1950Nov: 15.20 at June Lake on 6-7/2006 (official)Dec: 14.30 at Hoh RS on 4/2007Monthly Precip:Jan: 50.39 at Quinault RS in 1935Feb: 46.20 at June Lake in 1999Mar: 42.00 at June Lake in 1983Apr: 22.50 at June Lake in 1991May: 17.00 at Alpine Meadows in 2010Jun: 15.10 at Skookum Creek in 2012Jul: 13.69 at Clearwater in 1983Aug: 15.07 at Quillayute in 1991Sep: 26.50 at Swift Creek in 2013Oct: 33.40 at Clearwater in 1975Nov: 64.60 at June Lake in 2006 (state record)Dec: 57.04 at Peterson's Ranch (near Cougar, "official" state record)Year Max: 236.60 at June Lake in 1996 (calendar year)Year Min: 2.61 at Wahluke in 1910Wx Statman feel free to vet any of these, I'd be interested in your take. I haven't looked at the records themselves as closely as I have Oregon's, but this is a good place to start. 2 Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 By the way, how did the wind farm power generation do in the high winds last week? I was guessing that some records were set.Actually the east winds were pretty impressive given the direction (rare to see strong production in east winds in the Columbia Basin...west winds yes). The backdoor arctic front provided a good 12-18 hours of wind near full power at our parks in Klickitat, Sherman and Gilliam/Morrow counties. Considering the direction they were probably the most impressive E-NE winds I've seen since I've been doing this job (4 years) Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Wx Statman you may be familiar with the following BC superlatives:Record High: 112 at Lillooet and Lytton on Jul 17, 1941Record Low: -74 at Smith River on Jan 31, 194724 hour precip: 19.26 at Ucluelet-Brynnor Mines on Oct 6, 1967Month precip: 79.47 at Henderson Lake in Dec 1923Calendar year precip (most): 373.19 at Henderson Lake in 1997Calendar year precip (least): 2.80 at Ashcroft in 193824 hour snow: 57.0 at Tahtsa Lake WestMonth snow: 271.5 at Mt Washington Resort (Vancouver Island) in Feb 1999 (same season Mt. Baker set US seasonal record)Season snow: 963.0 at Revelstoke Mt. Copeland in 1971-72.Values in degrees Fahrenheit and inches. 2 Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 I'm interested in the California numbers.Ok...again these are not exhaustive in terms of the number of stations I went through. I went through all stations I reasonably expected to have state temp records, precip records or snow records. Monthly record highs/lows are documented by NCDC and for most months the numbers I cite here are NCDC values. For precip only the top 24 hour total is considered official by NCDC so other monthly values are unofficial but ones I consider reasonable and likely legitimate. Max/Min/24 hour precip/Monthly precip record Jan:97 at Indio on 19/1971-45 at Boca on 20/193725.83" at Hogees Camp on 22-23/194371.54" at Helen Mine in 1909 Feb:100 at Thermal and Mecca on 27/1986-43 at Boca on 7/198913.69" at Opids Camp on 22/194445.61" at Bowman Dam in 1904 Mar:107 at Mecca on 21/2004-35 at White Mountain on 10/196414.92" at Opids Camp on 2/193839.92" at La Porte in 1907 Apr:118 at Volcano Springs on 25/1898-30 at White Mountain on 27/197011.18" at Opids Camp on 4/192626.06" at Honeydew in 1963 May:124 at Salton on 27/1896-15 at White Mountain on 7/19645.97" at Fort **** on 5/196316.69" at Bowman Dam in 1915 Jun:131 at Badwater on 29/19940 at White Mountain on 6/20074.87" at Crescent City on 7/19208.03" at Crescent City in 1937 Jul:129 at Death Valley on 18/199812 at Bodie on 1/19974.74" at Crescent City on 27/19479.25" at Crescent City in 1947 Aug:127 at Furnace Creek on 3/199312 at Bodie on 24/20004.69" at Twin Lakes on 12/19656.36" at Twin Lakes in 1965 Sep:126 at Mecca on 2/1950-5 at White Mountain on 23/19737.41" at Upper Mattole on 12/189511.17" at Klamath in 1977 Oct:117 at Mecca on 2/1980-20 at White Mountain on 29/196111.50" at Orick Prairie Creek on 29/195034.15" at Gasquet RS in 1950 Nov:109 at Greenland Ranch on 5/1947-28 at White Mountain on 17/195810.53" at Honeydew on 9/197145.96 at Gasquet RS in 1973 Dec:100 at La Mesa on 8/1938-40 at Termo on 9/197212.91" at Gasquet RS on 31/195145.22" at Bowman Dam in 1964 AnnualWettest Calendar Year: 188.50" at Musalatt in 1983Driest Calendar Year: 0.00" at Death Valley in 1929 (probably other years) 1 Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted November 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 I did a precip study a few months ago suspecting that June Lake had shattered the "official" WA record annual precip at Wynoochee Oxbow back in the 1930s. Turns out it did by about 50 inches!! That project then spread to several Snotels in Oregon that receive heavy precip...most notably North Fork in eastern Multnomah County. Also Bear Mtn in northern Idaho (ID wettest location). You can find the data on WRCC. Snotels are now considered official data by the NCDC as well. That's a recent change apparently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted November 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Amazing post! Allowed me to tweak my own data a bit. I've put together a similar monthly records database for most US states, all Canadian provinces and some Mexican states (work in progress)...so just inquire if you are interested in a particular state/prov. Canadian ones weren't too difficult given the data on Environment Canada's website, the mining just takes a lot of time and patience. There doesn't seem to be a comprehensive list of monthly temp and precip extremes by province. You can find the absolute extremes online for each province but it's interesting to look at it from a monthly perspective IMO. Mexican data comes from the CONAGUA website with a rather friendly Google Maps display with all the stations on it. Precip data for Chiapas is especially impressive. Biggest problem I've come up against are dubious data, specifically extreme high temps with 120 degree readings found not only in Baja California and Sonora but also in Tamaulipas and Veracruz (among others). While I can't completely dismiss those, they seem a tad high. Unfortunately everywhere you look in the world is filled with bad data when it comes to weather records. Its too easy to screw up. Have you heard of Maximiliano Herrera? That guy apparently created a personal database of records for the whole planet. I think he's trying to get every country he can. He contributes to Christopher Burt's posts on Wunderground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted November 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Wx Statman, for April what do you think of Cave Junction 98 on 21/2009? Also I noticed you posted a bunch of images of Oregon daily records, however I can't access those images (says I'm not logged in). Any way you could email them to me? chris.callais@iberdrolaren.com Cave Junction has had a bunch of suspiciously high readings in the last decade. But they're official as far as I can tell, and the 98 is within the realm of possibility for that heat wave. I'll have to see if I still have that database saved. It was kind of a spur of the moment project that I did back then. I know that sounds kind of weird...but I didn't have any plans for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted November 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Since folks may be interested in WA stats here they are: Extreme Max Temp Jan: 74 at Darrington on 31/1940Feb: 83 at Centerville on 27/1895Mar: 87 at Mottinger on 10/1914Apr: 103 at Wahluke on 28/1934May: 107 at Dallesport on 30/1986Jun: 112 at John Day Dam on 18/1961Jul: 118 at Wahluke on 24/1928Aug: 118 at Ice Harbor Dam on 5/1961Sep: 108 at Glenoma on 3/1988Oct: 99 at Glenoma on 2/1987Nov: 83 at Kosmos on 3/1949Dec: 74 at Sedro Woolley on 5/1939 Interesting that the wintertime records are up in NW Washington.Extreme Min Temp: Jan: -42 at Deer Park on 20/1937Feb: -40 at Deer Park on 9/1933 (same night Seneca hit -54)Mar: -25 at Stockdill Ranch (Okanogan Co.) on 4/1955Apr: -7 at Lake Keechelus on 1/1936May: 2 at Mt. Rainier-Camp Muir on 5/2010 (ok, not official but credible)Jun: 11 at Mt. Rainier-Camp Muir on 7/2012Jul: 18 at Mt. Rainier-Camp Muir on 3/2012Aug: 20 at Cascade Tunnel in 1896 (don't have the exact date but in NCDC database)Sep: 11 at Newport on 25/1934Oct: -5 at Bumping Lake on 31/1935Nov: -29 at Ellensburg on 28/1896 (major late Nov arctic blast)Dec: -48 at Mazama and Winthrop on 30/1968 Lowest max temp: -21 at Winthrop on Dec 30, 1968Highest min temp: 89 at Kennewick on 2/1977 (iffy credibility). 24 hour precip: Jan: 12.00 at Quinault RS on 21/1935Feb: 10.50 at Quinault RS on 19/1968Mar: 10.07 at Quinault RS on 6/1972Apr: 8.92 at Cougar 6E on 12/1954May: 5.52 at Quinault RS on 5/1975Jun: 5.05 at Aberdeen 20NNE on 12/2000Jul: 9.13 at Clearwater on 12/1972Aug: 4.34 at Aberdeen 20NNE on 22/2001Sep: 7.50 at Swift Creek on 28-29/2013 (during the Sept 2013 deluge)Oct: 8.48 at Quinault RS on 10/1950Nov: 15.20 at June Lake on 6-7/2006 (official)Dec: 14.30 at Hoh RS on 4/2007 Monthly Precip: Jan: 50.39 at Quinault RS in 1935Feb: 46.20 at June Lake in 1999Mar: 42.00 at June Lake in 1983Apr: 22.50 at June Lake in 1991May: 17.00 at Alpine Meadows in 2010Jun: 15.10 at Skookum Creek in 2012Jul: 13.69 at Clearwater in 1983Aug: 15.07 at Quillayute in 1991Sep: 26.50 at Swift Creek in 2013Oct: 33.40 at Clearwater in 1975Nov: 64.60 at June Lake in 2006 (state record)Dec: 57.04 at Peterson's Ranch (near Cougar, "official" state record) Year Max: 236.60 at June Lake in 1996 (calendar year)Year Min: 2.61 at Wahluke in 1910 Wx Statman feel free to vet any of these, I'd be interested in your take. I haven't looked at the records themselves as closely as I have Oregon's, but this is a good place to start. I'm pretty sure that Centerville reading in February 1895 is bogus. The real WA state record high for February is in the upper 70's from either 1968 or 1995. I remember looking into it but I never made a database...so I can't remember the details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted November 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Ok...again these are not exhaustive in terms of the number of stations I went through. I went through all stations I reasonably expected to have state temp records, precip records or snow records. Monthly record highs/lows are documented by NCDC and for most months the numbers I cite here are NCDC values. For precip only the top 24 hour total is considered official by NCDC so other monthly values are unofficial but ones I consider reasonable and likely legitimate. Max/Min/24 hour precip/Monthly precip record Jan:97 at Indio on 19/1971-45 at Boca on 20/193725.83" at Hogees Camp on 22-23/194371.54" at Helen Mine in 1909 Feb:100 at Thermal and Mecca on 27/1986-43 at Boca on 7/198913.69" at Opids Camp on 22/194445.61" at Bowman Dam in 1904 Mar:107 at Mecca on 21/2004-35 at White Mountain on 10/196414.92" at Opids Camp on 2/193839.92" at La Porte in 1907 Apr:118 at Volcano Springs on 25/1898-30 at White Mountain on 27/197011.18" at Opids Camp on 4/192626.06" at Honeydew in 1963 May:124 at Salton on 27/1896-15 at White Mountain on 7/19645.97" at Fort **** on 5/196316.69" at Bowman Dam in 1915 Jun:131 at Badwater on 29/19940 at White Mountain on 6/20074.87" at Crescent City on 7/19208.03" at Crescent City in 1937 Jul:129 at Death Valley on 18/199812 at Bodie on 1/19974.74" at Crescent City on 27/19479.25" at Crescent City in 1947 Aug:127 at Furnace Creek on 3/199312 at Bodie on 24/20004.69" at Twin Lakes on 12/19656.36" at Twin Lakes in 1965 Sep:126 at Mecca on 2/1950-5 at White Mountain on 23/19737.41" at Upper Mattole on 12/189511.17" at Klamath in 1977 Oct:117 at Mecca on 2/1980-20 at White Mountain on 29/196111.50" at Orick Prairie Creek on 29/195034.15" at Gasquet RS in 1950 Nov:109 at Greenland Ranch on 5/1947-28 at White Mountain on 17/195810.53" at Honeydew on 9/197145.96 at Gasquet RS in 1973 Dec:100 at La Mesa on 8/1938-40 at Termo on 9/197212.91" at Gasquet RS on 31/195145.22" at Bowman Dam in 1964 AnnualWettest Calendar Year: 188.50" at Musalatt in 1983Driest Calendar Year: 0.00" at Death Valley in 1929 (probably other years) Those 1890's California max readings aren't legit FYI. They are from railroad maintenance camps and were not subject to any quality control. Specifically talking about places like Volcano Springs, Salton, Mammoth Tank, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted November 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Good stuff overall Chris. I'm impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 I'm pretty sure that Centerville reading in February 1895 is bogus. The real WA state record high for February is in the upper 70's from either 1968 or 1995. I remember looking into it but I never made a database...so I can't remember the details. Highest reliable one I can find for WA in February is 77 from Downtown Walla Walla on 2/24/1986. Looks like Startup 1 E also hit 77 on 2/29/1968. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted November 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Highest reliable one I can find for WA in February is 77 from Downtown Walla Walla on 2/24/1986. Looks like Startup 1 E also hit 77 on 2/29/1968. That Startup reading is what I think I remember. Been a few years though. Both 1986 and 1995 had readings well into the 70's in the lower Columbia Basin, but yeah I don't think there was anything above 77 on the WA side. Milton Freewater did hit 78 in 1995 just over the state line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Fascinating stuff guys. Keep it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 That Startup reading is what I think I remember. Been a few years though. Both 1986 and 1995 had readings well into the 70's in the lower Columbia Basin, but yeah I don't think there was anything above 77 on the WA side. Milton Freewater did hit 78 in 1995 just over the state line. Actually, looks like Glenoma hit 78 on 2/27/1986 so that might be the highest. OLM was 73 that same day, so I can believe it. Which means Glenoma also has 3 monthly record highs for WA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Actually, looks like Glenoma hit 78 on 2/27/1986 so that might be the highest. OLM was 73 that same day, so I can believe it. Which means Glenoma also has 3 monthly record highs for WA. Weird little spot. In the Cowlitz valley between Randle and the upper end of Riffe Lake. I've been through there lots of times on the way to various hikes. Must be an epic downsloping location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Weird little spot. In the Cowlitz valley between Randle and the upper end of Riffe Lake. I've been through there lots of times on the way to various hikes. Must be an epic downsloping location. The Cascade foothill river valleys just do great with those adiabatic heat setups, when the lower valleys are under the inversion. Places like Darrington, Startup, Glenoma, Packwood, Oakridge. They've all posted some crazy heat numbers, especially from the inversion season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted November 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Actually, looks like Glenoma hit 78 on 2/27/1986 so that might be the highest. OLM was 73 that same day, so I can believe it. Which means Glenoma also has 3 monthly record highs for WA. Good catch. I remember going through Glenoma's records, but yeah I forgot about that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted November 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Weird little spot. In the Cowlitz valley between Randle and the upper end of Riffe Lake. I've been through there lots of times on the way to various hikes. Must be an epic downsloping location. Great downsloping location. Actually same place as Kosmos, which also has the WA state record for November (83 in 1949). Only reason there are two towns is because they flooded Kosmos in the 1960's when they built Mossyrock Dam. The town was moved and renamed Glenoma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Great downsloping location. Actually same place as Kosmos, which also has the WA state record for November (83 in 1949). Only reason there are two towns is because they flooded Kosmos in the 1960's when they built Mossyrock Dam. The town was moved and renamed Glenoma. Aha. I was wondering about the history there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted November 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Wx Statman you may be familiar with the following BC superlatives: Record High: 112 at Lillooet and Lytton on Jul 17, 1941Record Low: -74 at Smith River on Jan 31, 194724 hour precip: 19.26 at Ucluelet-Brynnor Mines on Oct 6, 1967Month precip: 79.47 at Henderson Lake in Dec 1923Calendar year precip (most): 373.19 at Henderson Lake in 1997Calendar year precip (least): 2.80 at Ashcroft in 193824 hour snow: 57.0 at Tahtsa Lake WestMonth snow: 271.5 at Mt Washington Resort (Vancouver Island) in Feb 1999 (same season Mt. Baker set US seasonal record)Season snow: 963.0 at Revelstoke Mt. Copeland in 1971-72. Values in degrees Fahrenheit and inches. BTW wanted to add - Average maximum, any month: 35.5C (95.9F) at Spences Bridge in July 1906. This is also the Canadian record. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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