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January 2021 weather observations for the PNW


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4 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Looks like a die off is beginning. Though, your filter does make things look very green. 

Yeah... I can show you pics from the ridge behind our house from 2003 and 2004 with more dying trees than now.   We were recently looking at old pics from when we bought our land and there were definitely more dying trees back then.

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Why does what anyone enjoy matter?   So if he does not embrace the warm weather then there will be no fires and a greener landscape?  

That is the part of this discussion that I don't get.    And never will.

We are sitting discussing things like our climate has feelings and we can change it with having the right mindset.  😄

You just don’t get it. No one is saying you don’t have the right. Just saying you don’t understand the consequences of the weather you enjoy. 
 

it’s like how some people enjoy wearing clothes made from baby seal fur or conflict diamonds. They like the way they feel and look and don’t care about how it got there. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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4 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

You just don’t get it. No one is saying you don’t have the right. Just saying you don’t understand the consequences of the weather you enjoy. 
 

it’s like how some people enjoy wearing clothes made from baby seal fur or conflict diamonds. They like the way they feel and look and don’t care about how it got there. 

This is a horrible analogy.    Absolutely horrible.

I fully understand the cause and effect.   100% fully understand it.   And have zero control over it and still enjoy warm weather.   And also love some rain in the summer.    But none of it matters.   I am not making climate change happen... and do not control it.    

If we don't like the weather here then we can leave and find a new place to live.  

 

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2 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Central Valley of CA doesn't get much summertime convection. That's future us!!!!

Can’t wait to tell my grandkids about how it used to snow. They will be wided eyed and incredulous.

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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21 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

You just don’t get it. No one is saying you don’t have the right. Just saying you don’t understand the consequences of the weather you enjoy. 
 

it’s like how some people enjoy wearing clothes made from baby seal fur or conflict diamonds. They like the way they feel and look and don’t care about how it got there. 

My point to dolt was more that the shift isn't even inherently bad, and embracing the enjoyable sides of it is probably the psychologically healthiest thing to do in our situation. But if you are going to do that be prepared to deal with the bad parts too. Or at least realize that they are tied and don't be a hypocrite enjoying one thing while simultaneously bitching about its natural outcomes. Everyone wants to have their cake and eat it too (ie basking in increasingly long, sweltering summers with our familiar old lush green landscape as a backdrop, or winters remaining just as snowy as the olden days)

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

This is a horrible analogy.    Absolutely horrible.

I fully understand the cause and effect.   100% fully understand it.   And have zero control over it and still enjoy warm weather.   And also love some rain in the summer.    But none of it matters.   I am not making climate change happen... and do not control it.    

If we don't like the weather here then we can leave and find a new place to live.  

 

Okay glad we are clear.

 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Great discussion!   Very productive.  👍

Feel free to hijack any other topic and make it about you. Maybe next time use your kids as an example in a story that portrays them in a negative light to prove your point. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Eventually someday we will settle this topic once and for all...lol

 anyways currently running +3.0 on the month...and about 2.5” above normal rainfall. Probably going to end up more like +2.0-2.3 temp anomaly and should get another 1/2”-1” of rain before the months over. Pretty close to last January statistically...but likely no measurable snowfall or just a little bit at best. 

Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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5 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Feel free to hijack any other topic and make it about you. Maybe next time use your kids as an example in a story that portrays them in a negative light to prove your point. 

You did it.  I certainly don't want to discuss all of this again.   But don't bring me into it and misrepresent my thoughts.    

And I am sensing you at a low point mentally today and projecting.

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2 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said:

Eventually someday we will settle this topic once and for all...lol

 anyways currently running +3.0 on the month...and about 2.5” above normal rainfall. Probably going to end up more like +2.0 temp anomaly and should get another 1/2”-1” of rain before the months over. Pretty close to last January statistically...but likely no measurable snowfall or just a little bit at best. 

I think observing changes in our climate is somewhat relevant to what we discuss here. There is really nothing to settle, things have been warming. I guess one point of potential argument is where things end up over the coming decades.

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

You did it.  I certainly don't want to discuss all of this again.   But don't misrepresent my thoughts.    

And I am sensing you at a low point mentally today and projecting.

I did no such thing. You reached because you read your own name and took it as an attack. You must have immediately retreated to your reptilian brain. And low point? That’s the best you can come up with? 

 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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1 minute ago, Jesse said:

I think observing changes in our climate is somewhat relevant to what we discuss here. There is really nothing to settle, things have been warming. I guess one point of potential argument is where things end up over the coming decades.

Absolutely worth discussing from a scientific perspective.  The problem is when we get into the endless preference battles because its so completely meaningless and just derails the entire discussion.   

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Been clearing a lot of brush this winter. We are going to have a lot more defensible space for the next smoky summer.

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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10 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

That's nice, but Culver Josh has mastered the art of drunk posting while driving/looking at porn.

I think he met his wife on Tinder while simultaneously doing all the things you mentioned. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I did no such thing. You reached because you read your own name and took it as an attack. You must have immediately retreated to your reptilian brain. And low point? That’s the best you can come up with? 

 

Dude.  Any other insults?   I just responded to you.   You misrepresented and over-simplified my thoughts.   I can respond to that.  

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2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Dude.  Any other insults?   I just responded to you.   You misrepresented and over-simplified my thoughts.   I can respond to that.  

I was flabbergasted by the ferocity of your response. Like a wolverine that had just ripped into a hive of yellow jackets! A true messianic complex. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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3 minutes ago, TheNewCulverJosh said:

Yep, while dropping acid and sniffing glue.  You guys are good.

Teach me your wayz. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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1 minute ago, dolt said:

I haven't read Lord of the Flies for a while. I'm thinking that time has come again.

Your avatar is a good analogy for all of this. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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4 minutes ago, dolt said:

I haven't read Lord of the Flies for a while. I'm thinking that time has come again.

You must have missed my lengthy musings on the paradoxical nature of the human condition brought about by your simultaneous love of dry summer heat and hatred of summer fires. It’s a good read.

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37 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Why does what anyone enjoy matter?   So if he does not embrace the warm weather then there will be no fires and a greener landscape?  

That is the part of this discussion that I don't get.    And never will.

We are sitting here discussing things like our climate has feelings and we can change it with having the right mindset.  😄

Maybe move elsewhere so you won’t have to cheer on ecosystem-destroying weather to stay sane.

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11 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I was flabbergasted by the ferocity of your response. Like a wolverine that had just ripped into a hive of yellow jackets! A true messianic complex. 

Really?  

You have been making the same argument about my feelings for years.   I have no problem when you discuss your feelings.   Just don't bring me into it to make some point.   I get it... you can't enjoy summer now because of "all that you have lost".   I truly get it.   I am not going to tell you how to feel.

But I don't think anyone living in the Snoqualmie Valley a hundred years ago would look around today and mourn all that has been lost.    It looks so much more healthy than it did back then.    

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