Beltrami Island 412 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 10 minutes ago, Grizzcoat said: Being born and raised in MN- I agree with this. Also- Fargo also has avg snowfall quite a bit lower than MPLS-- NOTusing the 30 year avg's but avg's since records were taken- MPX is 43.3- Fargo is 40.3. Fargo does have a few mighty ones at 117 (96-97') but also has a lot of duds compared to MPLS. The 117 in 96-97' skews the 30 year avg which is 49 compared to 45+ in MPLS. If I had to pick Fargo or MPLS to live for snow- I'd take MPLS every day, maybe not that big FALL or SPRING event, but who cares, it's going to melt soon anyway. Getting off topic for this thread, but just have to add about 96-97 winter. I can't think of a superlative strong enough to describe the huge snowfall that year for the Red River valley. Looking back at the numbers, its hard to believe that winter could even be real. I grew up in central mn but have relatives in Kittson county in extreme NW Minnesota and got regular updates that year along with visiting them over Christmas break 1996 I saw some of it myself. They had 2 feet of snow on the ground from end of November until April. Was there memorial day weekend for cousins graduation and there was still a snowdrift in one of the fields. On the downside they had a massive ice storm in march that snapped hundreds of miles power lines like twigs followed by unprecedented flooding in spring when all that snow melted. Between snowstorms/blizzards, ice storm, and flooding my cousins had no 5 day school weeks after New Years. In spring they were taking the high school students out of school to help sand bag for flood control. Back to the current event. I am not expecting to much for northern minnesota except for the extreeme arrowhead. whatever models put out 4-5 days in advance we are just in a pattern that leads to storms falling flat around here. It will change sometime....probably in April. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grizzcoat 3692 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Beltrami Island- That winter of 96-97 I worked at a Gander Mtn store in Fridley,MN. All I did is fish fish fish and more fish. Ice fishing that year I caught this on the Rainy River right at Indus Rapids- (usually doesn't freeze over , but -50F (( -60F in Tower)) will do that. 31.5" 11.5 lbs. My buddies caught several others near this size. If you got the guts- fish Indus Rapids in the late Winter- but be prepared with ice picks and PFD's as the ice even a cold year is razor thin. I also fished that Spring for the SD/MN opener on Big Stone lake. There are still ponds/small lakes in the area that weren't their previous to the winter of 96-97'. Also- I remember an old lady that lived rural near Crookston that needed to be dug out by a front end loader. Winds and snow had literally drifted her house "over'. I tried searching it years back but got nothing. But it's the truth. 4 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to post Share on other sites
bud2380 3462 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 GDPS, similar to RDPS, but a little further east with the heavier snow. 2 Quote Season Snowfall: 39.5" Link to post Share on other sites
Madtown 1057 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, Grizzcoat said: Beltrami Island- That winter of 96-97 I worked at a Gander Mtn store in Fridely,MN. All I did is fish fish fish and more fish. Ice fishing that year I caught this on the Rainy River right at Indus Rapids- (usually doesn't freeze over , but -50F (( -60F in Tower)) will do that. 31.5" 11.5 lbs. I also fished that Spring for the SD/MN opener on Big Stone lake. There are still ponds/small lakes in the area that weren't their previous to the winter of 96-97'. Also- I remember an old lady that lived rural near Crookston that needed to be dug out by a front end loader. Winds and snow had literally drifted her house "over'. I tried searching it years back but got nothing. But it's the truth. Nice Fish! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye 4420 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 The air that wraps around this big low isn't particularly cold. We only drop into the 20s. 1 Quote season snowfall: 51.8" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" '16-17: 17.9" '15-16: 20.0" '14-15: 30.4" '13-14: 48.3" '12-13: 34.1" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to post Share on other sites
FAR_Weather 5174 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Beltrami Island said: There is quite a gradient of decreasing average annual snowfall from east to west across MN extending into ND. This trend shows up as a hard cut off point for weak to moderate snowfalls somewhere between Detroit Lakes MN and about Jamestown ND. Fargo is often in near this hard cutoff zone. It takes a strong storm to overcome this climo and there have no strong snowstorms so far this winter. Oh yeah, never denied that. This specific season, though, it has been exactly the Red River with zero variation for every single storm. Gets tiring after a while lol 1 Quote >1" Snowfalls for Fargo-Hector Int'l Airport in 2020-21: 10/20 (4.2"), 10/22 (2.7"), 12/23 (1.2"), 12/27 (1.8"), 12/29-30 (4.1"), 1/23 (1.9"), Total Snowfall for 2020-2021 @ KFAR: 20.9" Coldest Low: -25*F (2/15) First flake of the season: 10/15 @ 21:27 CDT Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye 4420 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 The UK has shifted east quite a bit. 2 1 Quote season snowfall: 51.8" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" '16-17: 17.9" '15-16: 20.0" '14-15: 30.4" '13-14: 48.3" '12-13: 34.1" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to post Share on other sites
bud2380 3462 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Holy crud Okie! That's incredible snow totals for a mostly wrap around type system. I'd take 5" and run. Although it's now so far east that I'm on the western edge. Suffice to say, this probably won't be the last change we see with this one. Quote Season Snowfall: 39.5" Link to post Share on other sites
FAR_Weather 5174 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Well, this was fun to track for a day. Quote >1" Snowfalls for Fargo-Hector Int'l Airport in 2020-21: 10/20 (4.2"), 10/22 (2.7"), 12/23 (1.2"), 12/27 (1.8"), 12/29-30 (4.1"), 1/23 (1.9"), Total Snowfall for 2020-2021 @ KFAR: 20.9" Coldest Low: -25*F (2/15) First flake of the season: 10/15 @ 21:27 CDT Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye 4420 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 The Euro is nothing like the UK. East-central IA gets crap on the Euro because the center of the upper low parks over us. The UK is probably bogus. Quote season snowfall: 51.8" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" '16-17: 17.9" '15-16: 20.0" '14-15: 30.4" '13-14: 48.3" '12-13: 34.1" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to post Share on other sites
whatitdo 131 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 8 minutes ago, Hawkeye said: The Euro is nothing like the UK. East-central IA gets crap on the Euro because the center of the upper low parks over us. The UK is probably bogus. we can always count on Mr. No for his input. I wanna just toss it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grizzcoat 3692 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 12ZEuro- getting more Westerly wrapped and occluded. Which makes some sense- 1 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to post Share on other sites
james1976 3934 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, Grizzcoat said: 12ZEuro- getting more Westerly wrapped and occluded. Which makes some sense- Does this mean it might park for a while? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grizzcoat 3692 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Hell yeah. It might even retrograde. The cold air I'am seeing at upper levels means higher ratios on the backside. Maybe 15:1. The front end will be wet, if not rain. But this system nuts and bolts are on the backside with slowing ..... Not going to post- but look at the upper level cold air it draws in. Just enough for someone to get 6" imo. 1 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to post Share on other sites
Madtown 1057 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Grizzcoat said: Hell yeah. It might even retrograde. The cold air I'am seeing at upper levels means higher ratios on the backside. Maybe 15:1. The front end will be wet, if not rain. But this system nuts and bolts are on the backside with slowing ..... Not going to post- but look at the upper level cold air it draws in. Just enough for someone to get 6" imo. Thoughts up this way Griz? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whatitdo 131 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 GRR says this system is meh at best and also meh for future snowfall into next week other than lakeshore areas. -- Transition from rain to snow late Thursday into early Friday -- The models look like they have to come into a good consensus that precipitation with the Thu/Fri system will start to develop over the area later Thursday afternoon. This precipitation should start out as mainly rain for most of the area as the lower levels will start out above freezing up through 850 mb. This will not last long however as evaporative cooling will occur, and turn any rain to snow up north, with the south holding on to rain a little bit longer. It does look like we will not see significant precipitation ahead of this system, keeping snow accumulations in check. The limited precipitation will be a result of limited Gulf moisture being drawn into the system before the front moves east of the area. There could be a couple of inches of snow across Central Lower, but it could be much worse if better and deeper moisture was in place. All locations will gradually see any rain change over to snow as the cooler air moves in. -- Cooler Friday through next week with occasional lake effect chances -- There has been a decent amount of consistency in showing we will not see significant amounts of precipitation, lake effect or synoptic, after the front moves through. We will miss out on the deformation snow on the NW side of this system. The air coming in in not all that cold, only around -6 to -8C. This is not really sufficient instability for lake effect. We will see a few snow showers, with maybe some lake help, but nothing significant, especially by mid- January standards. The snow showers will be more associated with the filling upper low overhead. Once the upper low gets kicked out, we will see the NW flow somewhat similar to the current pattern gain control of the region. The difference between the current pattern, and the one that will take place on Sunday, is that colder air will be available. We will continue to see short waves move through, but they will have more of a potential to bring some lake effect snow showers along with light synoptic amounts. Overall, we continue to not expect a significant amount of snow in any one location in a short period of time over the next week. We will see the snow pack build up, especially near the lakeshore, as we see a couple inches fall at times from Friday through next Tuesday. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Madtown 1057 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Come on NAM....still snowing at the end ofnthe run 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
St Paul Storm 4012 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 15 minutes ago, Madtown said: Come on NAM....still snowing at the end ofnthe run That looks like the 12z run. 18z looks even better for some of us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
St Paul Storm 4012 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 18z GFS finally catching on. Nice little retrograde action. Sit and spin! Nothing terribly impressive with hourly rates at this point, but a nice long-duration event on tap it looks like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bud2380 3462 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 OH CANADA! Hey, it did really well with the storm between Christmas and New Years. So hopefully for my sake it's on to something. This would easily be the greatest wrap around snowstorm of my lifetime. Quote Season Snowfall: 39.5" Link to post Share on other sites
bud2380 3462 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 GFS Quote Season Snowfall: 39.5" Link to post Share on other sites
Grizzcoat 3692 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 18Z GFS- Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to post Share on other sites
bud2380 3462 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 DVN is not impressed at all. "Less than an inch". Thursday night and Friday: Occluded closed upper low will dig southeast into IA/IL. The associated cold pocket will be conducive to snow showers and light snow but accumulations are expected to be less than an inch, as moisture is somewhat limited due to lack of Gulf moisture entrained into the system. With the stacked low coming across eastern IA, the tighter pressure gradient should remain to our west and northwest where the higher winds will be. Due to the snow showers and possible stronger winds on Friday, snow squalls may be an issue but the deciding factor will be low level instability. Later shifts can monitor the situation. Highs will be around 30. Quote Season Snowfall: 39.5" Link to post Share on other sites
Madtown 1057 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 28 minutes ago, Grizzcoat said: 18Z GFS- isn't this the 18z Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grizzcoat 3692 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Dmx talking warnings / advisory in AFD. Been 17 days, that's how this winter rolls here. Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to post Share on other sites
jaster220 8336 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 5 hours ago, Hawkeye said: The UK has shifted east quite a bit. Lol. Even the bogus weenie run only gets me to 1" 1 Quote Winter 2020-21 Snow Total = 35.1" Largest Storm: 10.2" (2/15-16) Oct: 0.0 Nov: 1.5 Dec: 3.6 Jan: 10.0 Feb: 20.0 Mar: 0.0 Apr: 0.0 Annual avg for mby = 49.7" Avg for last 10 seasons = 58.4" (118% of normal) 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to post Share on other sites
hlcater 1321 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Whatever snow exists on the back side looks to be squally in nature. Strong CAA should yield seasonably steep lapse rates and CAPE. 1 Quote 2020-21 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 51.6" (Oct. 18: 0.6") (Oct 19: 2.0") (Nov. ?: 1.5") (Dec. 12: 3.7") (Dec. 23: 0.5") (Dec. 27: 1.2") (Dec. 29: 9.2") (Jan. 15: 2.3”) (Jan 17. 1.1”) (Jan. 24: 2.5”) (Jan. 26: 6.8") (Jan. 31: 8.5") (Feb. 4: 5.0") (Feb. 6: 0.5") (Feb. 8: 1.0") (Feb. 11: 1.2") (Feb. 13: 1.3") (Feb. 21: 2.7") Link to post Share on other sites
FAR_Weather 5174 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Euro, while the last run didn't have great accumulations, is probably my last hope for decent accumulations in regards to low placement. Sad that it's still 500+ miles away from all the other models 24 hours out. 1 Quote >1" Snowfalls for Fargo-Hector Int'l Airport in 2020-21: 10/20 (4.2"), 10/22 (2.7"), 12/23 (1.2"), 12/27 (1.8"), 12/29-30 (4.1"), 1/23 (1.9"), Total Snowfall for 2020-2021 @ KFAR: 20.9" Coldest Low: -25*F (2/15) First flake of the season: 10/15 @ 21:27 CDT Link to post Share on other sites
Grizzcoat 3692 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 18Z Euro 1 1 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to post Share on other sites
Madtown 1057 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Go NAM its your birthday GO NAM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bud2380 3462 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 RDPS 1 Quote Season Snowfall: 39.5" Link to post Share on other sites
snowstorm83 1906 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 I'll take that 18z Euro. I wonder if this could be a situation like right before Christmas with not much snow but blizzard conditions. 2 Quote Snowfall in Lincoln, NE: 2017-18: 21.4" 2018-19: 55.5" 2019-20: 17.6" 2020-21: 49.4" (so far) Average: 25.9" Link to post Share on other sites
Grizzcoat 3692 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 RDPS Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to post Share on other sites
St Paul Storm 4012 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 3 minutes ago, Grizzcoat said: RDPS Pretty massive shift west with the heaviest totals. Haven’t taken a look yet at why though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grizzcoat 3692 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 GFS Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to post Share on other sites
Grizzcoat 3692 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Regular Canadian is white gold for many. Simple best case scenario for W.Ia Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to post Share on other sites
bud2380 3462 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Models are trending towards the Euro. Not looking too good in eastern Iowa. I was hoping for a few inches but that seems unlikely. 1-2” seems like as good as I can hope for here based on current model trends. 1 Quote Season Snowfall: 39.5" Link to post Share on other sites
Grizzcoat 3692 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Cmc Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to post Share on other sites
bud2380 3462 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Canadian with a big shift west. Looks a lot like the GFS which is coming into line with the euro. Quote Season Snowfall: 39.5" Link to post Share on other sites
bud2380 3462 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 UK with a big shift west. Looks like most of the other models. Crazy how much agreement we have suddenly. Large areas of Minnesota looks really good. Quote Season Snowfall: 39.5" Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye 4420 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Yep, the models are beginning to agree. It now appears there won't be much on the front end, then the upper low spins over my area and the backwash snow mostly sags south over central/western Iowa. Quote season snowfall: 51.8" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" '16-17: 17.9" '15-16: 20.0" '14-15: 30.4" '13-14: 48.3" '12-13: 34.1" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to post Share on other sites
james1976 3934 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Models agreeing and shifting south. Yes 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grizzcoat 3692 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Euro- Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to post Share on other sites
Grizzcoat 3692 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Some raw #'s-- Just W of DSM- mby- ECMWF Deterministic FORECAST FOR: LAT = 41.60 LON = -93.88 00Z JAN13 2 M 850 SFC SFC 700 6 HR 500 1000 TMP TMP PRS RHU RHU QPF HGT 500 (C) (C) (MB) (PCT) (PCT) (IN) (DM) THK WED 00Z 13-JAN 2.3 4.3 1017 81 44 563 550 WED 06Z 13-JAN 1.1 6.1 1015 83 47 562 550 WED 12Z 13-JAN -0.1 7.4 1012 78 24 0.00 560 550 WED 18Z 13-JAN 4.8 7.9 1008 64 43 0.00 556 549 THU 00Z 14-JAN 1.3 9.4 1004 77 53 0.00 556 552 THU 06Z 14-JAN 1.0 8.3 1001 79 54 0.00 552 551 THU 12Z 14-JAN 1.8 2.5 999 78 90 0.00 545 545 THU 18Z 14-JAN 2.7 -5.0 1002 84 97 0.13 531 530 FRI 00Z 15-JAN 1.2 -5.9 1001 77 96 0.01 526 526 FRI 06Z 15-JAN 0.0 -6.3 999 84 98 0.07 524 525 FRI 12Z 15-JAN -0.9 -6.7 997 89 100 0.13 523 526 FRI 18Z 15-JAN 0.8 -6.2 1001 91 97 0.09 527 526 SAT 00Z 16-JAN 0.2 -5.9 1007 92 79 0.09 533 528 SAT 06Z 16-JAN -0.7 -6.1 1010 90 98 0.04 538 530 OMA- (not out of this by any stretch) ECMWF Deterministic FORECAST FOR: OMA LAT= 41.30 LON= -95.90 ELE= 981 00Z JAN13 2 M 850 SFC SFC 700 6 HR 500 1000 TMP TMP PRS RHU RHU QPF HGT 500 (C) (C) (MB) (PCT) (PCT) (IN) (DM) THK WED 00Z 13-JAN 3.9 5.6 1016 74 48 565 551 WED 06Z 13-JAN 1.2 7.7 1015 72 28 564 552 WED 12Z 13-JAN 0.5 8.0 1012 64 21 0.00 561 552 WED 18Z 13-JAN 7.8 10.0 1008 43 37 0.00 559 552 THU 00Z 14-JAN 4.8 9.5 1004 69 25 0.00 559 556 THU 06Z 14-JAN 5.4 9.2 999 63 70 0.00 553 553 THU 12Z 14-JAN 3.8 -2.2 1005 84 100 0.03 540 536 THU 18Z 14-JAN 6.3 -4.3 1005 38 97 0.01 531 527 FRI 00Z 15-JAN 2.3 -6.5 1005 58 100 0.03 529 524 FRI 06Z 15-JAN 0.0 -8.1 1005 71 98 0.04 528 525 FRI 12Z 15-JAN -1.3 -8.9 1004 76 99 0.12 529 526 FRI 18Z 15-JAN -0.6 -8.0 1007 75 98 0.09 533 528 SAT 00Z 16-JAN -1.2 -7.9 1012 79 98 0.02 539 529 SAT 06Z 16-JAN -1.7 -7.5 1015 78 53 0.02 543 531 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to post Share on other sites
Grizzcoat 3692 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 MSP- (odd that 850's are actually colder further S and W) ECMWF Deterministic FORECAST FOR: MSP LAT= 44.88 LON= -93.22 ELE= 837 00Z JAN13 2 M 850 SFC SFC 700 6 HR 500 1000 TMP TMP PRS RHU RHU QPF HGT 500 (C) (C) (MB) (PCT) (PCT) (IN) (DM) THK WED 00Z 13-JAN -0.2 3.4 1012 85 40 556 546 WED 06Z 13-JAN -1.5 4.7 1011 89 36 554 545 WED 12Z 13-JAN -3.3 4.9 1009 89 44 0.00 552 545 WED 18Z 13-JAN 2.2 4.2 1007 75 83 0.00 549 544 THU 00Z 14-JAN 1.4 5.3 1003 83 89 0.00 549 547 THU 06Z 14-JAN -0.2 5.3 1000 89 51 0.00 546 546 THU 12Z 14-JAN -0.1 0.8 999 92 98 0.02 540 542 THU 18Z 14-JAN 0.6 -3.7 997 95 97 0.17 535 537 FRI 00Z 15-JAN -0.2 -5.4 996 97 98 0.20 531 534 FRI 06Z 15-JAN 0.4 -5.2 996 95 98 0.17 530 534 FRI 12Z 15-JAN 0.7 -5.2 999 92 97 0.19 529 530 FRI 18Z 15-JAN 1.2 -5.4 1003 90 88 0.05 533 530 SAT 00Z 16-JAN 0.7 -5.8 1007 92 96 0.08 536 530 SAT 06Z 16-JAN -0.2 -6.5 1011 87 86 0.03 540 531 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to post Share on other sites
Grizzcoat 3692 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Earlier I mentioned the winter of 96-97 and woman's house buried and had to be dug out. This pic and article are not that, but you get the idea. I had a buddy that was going to school in Moorehead and I-94 was literally shut down every 2-3 days for a month. Think I'am over hyping it? from the article- "Blizzards struck western or west-central Minnesota Nov. 16-17, Dec. 17-19, Dec. 20-21, Dec. 23, Dec. 31, Jan. 15-16, Jan. 21-22, March 4, and even on April 5-6 during a huge flood fight to hold back the swelling Red River. Total seasonal snowfall in the Fargo-Moorhead area was 117 inches, which set up worst flooding ever, according to the DNR." https://www.dl-online.com/news/4559868-think-bad-you-should-have-seen-winter-1996-97 1 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye 4420 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Eastern Iowa doesn't even get a lot of wind from this system now because the stacked low will be crawling directly over us. Quote season snowfall: 51.8" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" '16-17: 17.9" '15-16: 20.0" '14-15: 30.4" '13-14: 48.3" '12-13: 34.1" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to post Share on other sites
Tom 16608 Posted January 13 Author Report Share Posted January 13 00z Euro...snowfall through Mon as there is another upper level feature that some of the models are picking up on rotating through on Sun/Mon that fills in the gap from the initial strong ULL. IF, this comes into fruition, then I'd say it would be a welcome sight for those who miss out on the main system. 00z EPS...virtically stacked ULL right over N IL is not good for the main show but then the second piece tracking over the area bodes well for those who miss out on the 1st round of snows. It also appears to ignite the LES for SW MI peeps. IA folks looking better as the system is trending farther S with the main snow shield. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom 16608 Posted January 13 Author Report Share Posted January 13 00z GEFS... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grizzcoat 3692 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 6Z -- 12KM and 3Km NAM push snow well into MO. here's the 3km through HR 60 --still snowing for many. ALso a good sign that NAM suite is finally picking up the wrap around. Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to post Share on other sites
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