bud2380 Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye said: My snow total today is 1.1" from only 0.03" liquid... a 36:1 ratio. Two days ago, with the temperature about the same, the ratio was 10:1. Flake quality matters. Incredible. I'll have to measure when I get home. I've never attempted to melt it down, frankly I'm not sure the proper way to do so, but I'd be interested to know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albiahawk Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 Good band in South Central Iowa with huge flakes falling and accumulating quickly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted February 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, bud2380 said: Incredible. I'll have to measure when I get home. I've never attempted to melt it down, frankly I'm not sure the proper way to do so, but I'd be interested to know. I use my 4" gauge. I turn it over and push it down through the snow to the surface. I then clear all the snow around the gauge, then slide a thin piece of cardboard between the surface and gauge, careful to not lose any snow from inside the gauge opening. I then flip it upright and go inside and melt it down. If I have one of my little snow boards out, I can just push the flipped gauge to the board and then flip the whole thing upright, with the board still pressed to the gauge opening. To melt it down, I either let it melt on its own (like today), or I add some hot water (careful to know exactly how much water is being added), or, if there is a lot of snow, I sometimes dump the snow into a pan and melt it on the stove. 2 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 31 minutes ago, CentralNebWeather said: 18z GFS through 150 hours. GFS and ICON matching up real well with each other. Hope they have it right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 The storm showing up around Saturday on the 18z GFS is fascinating. Such huge snow amounts for such relatively small qpf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted February 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 I'd love to get some good snow Saturday, but I fear the PV will suppress it south. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayhawker85 Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, Clinton said: GFS and ICON matching up real well with each other. Hope they have it right. This would be the perfect time for a strong storm to swing out of the southwest and grab tons of gulf moisture since temps are finally not a issue 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 It's been a while since I've seen such a high snow ratio snowfall. This has to be on the order of 25:1 or higher. I got about 1.3" down so far and snowing at a pretty good clip. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 Took a glance at the EPS members for the Valentine's Day weekend and compared them to the GEFS members. A majority of them are showing a formidable system for the MW/GL's region. 18z GEFS... Back to Back cutters??? A couple days later the ensembles are sniffing out the next storm early the following week during the Mon-Wed period. Man, this pattern is loaded with systems over the next 10 days. Meanwhile, I'm underneath a weenie band that just suddenly back built and its rippin hard... 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 51 minutes ago, bud2380 said: The storm showing up around Saturday on the 18z GFS is fascinating. Such huge snow amounts for such relatively small qpf The high temperature in KC on Saturday is forecasted to be 5. So if it tracks like that it may be possible to reach 25-1 ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted February 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 Like I posted, I received 1.1" of snow today. There is a new spotter report from 1 mile west of me that says 2.5". There is no way in hell that is correct. There should be a very uniform total across the city, with more as you head south. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 Some slow-mo action...beautiful evening snowfall...let it Snow IMG_0098.MOV 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormhunter87 Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 Sigh my wife is traveling this weekend to see her sister in St. Louis. Hopefully the roads will be clear on Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttumwaSnomow Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 I continue to be astounded at what this pattern is doing in my area. Another 1.5" this pm. Although im gonna measure about 1 am when I wake up To allow for the 6 hr interval. Light band after another here! 11 inches since Thursday and 41" for the season. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 I got about 2.5” today. There is a 4” report not far from here. Not sure I buy that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 Picked up 2.4”...had to take several measurements and avg them out bc the snow is so fluffy the top layer is bumpy. There was barely any wind all day which made the snow look very peaceful. I’m sure the landscape tomorrow will look like a snow globe in the daylight. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 0z NWS blend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 ORD picked up 2.9” and the snow ratios were an impressive 48:1! I don’t doubt it bc you could use a leaf blower to blow the snow away. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstorm83 Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 It's been a cold evening. High today was only 4 and didn't take long to get below zero after sunset. I had to walk to my car on campus (about 7-8 minutes) and it was pretty brutal. And this is just the beginning haha. 4 Quote Snowfall in Lincoln, NE: 2017-18: 21.4" 2018-19: 55.5" 2019-20: 17.6" 2020-21: 49.4" 2021-22: 5.1" Average: 26" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwxguy Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 Already -10 when forecast low was -8 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstorm83 Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, jcwxguy said: Already -10 when forecast low was -8 Just saw that. KJYR (York) is -17 LOL. Could be where KLNK is headed. 1 Quote Snowfall in Lincoln, NE: 2017-18: 21.4" 2018-19: 55.5" 2019-20: 17.6" 2020-21: 49.4" 2021-22: 5.1" Average: 26" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 0z GFS through 138 hours. I’d like this 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 Beautiful scenery outside right now...big fat flakes coming down. Easily over an inch and approaching two. Tomorrow morning will look spectacular. Trees will be filled w snow. Temp is currently at 15F. I went outside just now to capture all of this and its snow on top of snow. Btw: Last nite at below zero temps, I was outside my patio and did not actually feel that cold because of no wind. It could be -20F and not be too bad, if there is no wcf. 4 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 Just 1.3" here but we're doing our best imitation of NMI between the frigid temps and frequent refreshers. Meanwhile, along the lakeshore counties this afternoon, there was a meso-low and it pounded nicely for a few locations. PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND RAPIDS MI 621 PM EST MON FEB 8 2021 ..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON... ..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE.... ..REMARKS.. 0618 PM SNOW 1 SSW OLIVE CENTER 42.90N 86.09W 02/08/2021 E6.0 INCH OTTAWA MI PUBLIC 0608 PM SNOW 2 SSW PORT SHELDON 42.87N 86.21W 02/08/2021 E6.5 INCH OTTAWA MI PUBLIC 0530 PM SNOW 3 NE PORT SHELDON 42.94N 86.16W 02/08/2021 E7.0 INCH OTTAWA MI PUBLIC 12 HOUR SNOWFALL. && 2 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 2 hours ago, jcwxguy said: Already -10 when forecast low was -8 Wow, it's only -9 here in Fargo. Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 I ended up with 1.6” of snow during the daytime yesterday bringing my total from the previous night to 2.9”. Total liquid equivalent was only 0.08” for a ratio of 36:1, similar to what Hawkeye had. (The nighttime ratio was around 43:1 and daytime ratio 32:1 !) 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 11 minutes ago, Sparky said: I ended up with 1.6” of snow during the daytime yesterday bringing my total from the previous night to 2.9”. Total liquid equivalent was only 0.08” for a ratio of 36:1, similar to what Hawkeye had. (The nighttime ratio was around 43:1 and daytime ratio 32:1 !) That pretty much lines up with what we had here as well. I saw that one of our top local mets here show the snow ratios were 48:1 which is quite outstanding when you come to think of it. Congrats. Meantime, the 00z Euro is showing this through Friday... 00z GEFS...locally, the LES is showing up for NE IL as well as the UKIE and other models... 00z UKIE...10:1 ratios 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 00z EPS is sorta backing off any potential of a significant system over the weekend as the PV crashes the chances of a phased storm across the GL's. That doesn't mean, however, we will see any hopes of an elongated wave to develop which some of the globals are showing. On the other hand, there is growing indication that the next big ticket southern stream storm could really whallop the S Plains up thru the MW/OHV early next week. Both the GEFS/EPS are signalling this period to develop a juicy system that should very well tap into deep GOM moisture and cut up somewhere into the OHV. Both show a clear signal for our southern/eastern members to be in the zone.... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 Wow the difference in snowfall amounts in the ensemble means of the 3 major models is crazy over the next 144hrs. While the GEFS is increasing from previous runs the EPS and CMC are headed the other way. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 06z NWS Blend 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 06z GFS through 132 hours 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 0z Euro through 162 hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 NWS morning disco discussing the snow chances. If you want to read the rest, they talk about the historic cold coming this weekend, rarely seen in this area. Fascinating. Snow chances... Appears best chances for snow will be later this week (Thu PM into Sat) as some relatively weak waves ripple through within the fast zonal flow. Snw chcs begin by late Thu as a shortwave trough and associated RER/LER coupled jet combine to induce some WAA/isentropic ascent back up and over the cold air. EC/EPS solutions have been fairly consistent in developing an E/W band of lgt snow along/near the NE/SD border Thu night, then gradually dropping this band southward thru the day on Fri with the reinforcing shot of Arctic air. Chcs could continue into Sat as yet another wave moves thru. GFS is overall further S from the beginning, but it also brings waves of lgt snw thru the area during an extended period of time. This would be very high ratio snow, so like last weekend, it could really add up over time if the same areas get multiple waves of lgt snow. Still about a day or so too early to begin discussing more specific accums, but signs seem to be pointing to pretty good odds for lgt to mod snw accums for at least portions of the CWA late this week and into the weekend. A fresh layer of snow would all but guarantee the extremely cold temps models are showing for Sun AM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, CentralNebWeather said: 06z GFS through 132 hours I can't imagine getting that much snow with temps that cold. Don't think it's happened here before, it would be incredible. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 11 minutes ago, Clinton said: I can't imagine getting that much snow with temps that cold. Don't think it's happened here before, it would be incredible. I will be interested to see what model the NWS leans toward for this weekend's snow. Obviously the Euro and Canadian are much less snow than the GFS. However, as last weekend proved, any of these waves can over produce. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 One thing I have noticed is how tough it is for cars to see around the piles at intersections. I've got a Ford F-150 crew cab so I have no issues. Last night I drove my daughter's Chevy Malibu. I had to slow down to a crawl and inch my way out to see if anyone was coming. Just thought I would share that. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayhawker85 Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, CentralNebWeather said: 06z GFS through 132 hours i dont get how the GFS and the Euro are vastly different from each other. The GFS for my area gives me 20 inches but the euro says ehhh lucky to get 3. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Clinton said: I can't imagine getting that much snow with temps that cold. Don't think it's happened here before, it would be incredible. Can you post the 06z Euro mean? I flipped through all the ensemble members and they took a step towards the GEFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Clinton said: Wow the difference in snowfall amounts in the ensemble means of the 3 major models is crazy over the next 144hrs. While the GEFS is increasing from previous runs the EPS and CMC are headed the other way. Every model run has been different since this polar freeze and no reason to think it won't continue. It would be nice to see a big dog but for now we just need to accept nickle and dimers this week. Hopefully the models will come into some type of agreement for the weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 Currently -15. Unbelievable. And the snowpack is deep. Side roads are mostly snow covered around here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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