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4 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

No action for here on the EC. Maybe a sub-40F high tho? This location is so bad for Arctic cold & snow most years. 2-25-19 was so fukkin' rare.

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High of 37 in mid-February isn't half bad. I bet 850mb temps at EUG never got below -8C in February 2014. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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15 minutes ago, Brian_in_Leavenworth said:

I can't imagine 36 inches in one storm. That is how much I got for the whole month, and there were a few times where it snowed hard.  At least it seemed like it snowed hard.  If I ever see a 36 inch snowstorm, I may redefine what I think heavy snow is.  

Back in Dec 08 Coeur d'Alene got 37 inches from one storm over 36 hours. Everybody should experience that at least once. 

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I know Tim got 40-50" during that storm, but he just made a claim he got more in 24-hrs than the Oregon all time record. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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Most we've had in a day was a pathetic 21" in January 2012. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I know Tim got 40-50" during that storm, but he just made a claim he got more in 24-hrs than the Oregon all time record. 

I think it took more like 30 hours for him. Makes sense he'd remember the total and feel like it basically fell in one day.

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Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation)

Snow since February 2019: 91"

2023-24: 6"

2022-23: 17.5"

2021-22: 17.75"

2020-21: 14.5”

2019-20: 10.5"

2018-19: 24.75"

 

 

 

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Some people hate snow...They would not fit in well here. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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Remember that guy from Tucson who showed up around February 2019. He was like a good luck charm. Bet he's seen more snow than PDX this winter. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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4 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

High of 37 in mid-February isn't half bad. I bet 850mb temps at EUG never got below -8C in February 2014. 

Springfield would be around 40F in this setup with downsloping.

Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Remember that guy from Tucson who showed up around February 2019. He was like a good luck charm. Bet he's seen more snow than PDX this winter. 

Oh I forgot about him! Everyone was annoyed cause he kept getting excited about his weather and we were like 'huh?, what is there to be excited about?'.

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Home Weather Station Stats for 2023

High - Satans Bunghole

Lowest High - Not sure

Low - I don't have the data

Sub 40 highs - Not quite

Sub-freezing highs - Try again

Lows below 25 - You're joking

Lows below 20 - No

2023 Snowfall - LOL

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1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Remember that guy from Tucson who showed up around February 2019. He was like a good luck charm. Bet he's seen more snow than PDX this winter. 

He showed up last winter right before the big January 2020 bust. We both use another weather forum as well, I showed him this forum and he decided to join. 

FWIW, he normally lives near Miami but was going to school in Tucson.

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1 minute ago, Omegaraptor said:

He showed up last winter right before the big January 2020 bust. We both use another weather forum as well, I showed him this forum and he decided to join. 

FWIW, he normally lives near Miami but was going to school in Tucson.

Miami.  Talk about a sucky climate to live in 

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I remember getting snowed in at Sequoia Nat Park in March 1979 when 2-3 feet of snow falling overnight.  We were Nordic skiing near Mono Rock overlook out in exposed area when terrifying thunder snow hit.  My brothers and I had moments earlier laughed at the lightning hazard sign as if it were impossible to have lightning in winter.

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1 minute ago, Omegaraptor said:

He showed up last winter right before the big January 2020 bust. We both use another weather forum as well, I showed him this forum and he decided to join. 

FWIW, he normally lives near Miami but was going to school in Tucson.

No wonder why he thought Tucson had a cold winter climate. lol

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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7 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Springfield would be around 40F in this setup with downsloping.

For some perspective, most people agree late February 2018 was not a bad stretch. I don't think anyone would be disappointed if we saw something similar. At one point 850mb temps bottomed out around -10C at SLE.

 

PDX had 3 sub 40 highs (34,37.39)

EUG had 1 (37)

SLE never had a max below 40 during that stretch. 

It was a little later in the month, so there is more potential from a climo perspective next week, but once we get past the first ten days of February it gets pretty tough to have a sub-40 high at the lowest levels, especially with full sunshine. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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42 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

I'm sure it's possible... unusual pattern. Do you know of any historical examples where a far west-based -NAO worked out like that? Without a significant block on the Pacific side?

February 1936, March 1960, and December 1983? At least to a 21st century extent, the pattern looks kinda similar and none of those were super -PNA driven.

March 3, 1960 is subtly one of the most incredible winter weather days in U.S. history. Literally the entire northern tier of states was under a snowstorm at the same time. 

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14 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

No wonder why he thought Tucson had a cold winter climate. lol

I don't know, Miami NWS actually has a falling iguana hazard (as a joke) but I believe they issued one last year after overnight temps dropped to around 26F. 

So screw Tucson or (guy) has a warped sense of "cold", I have beer in my fridge colder than Tucson. 

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12 minutes ago, bainbridgekid said:

I think it took more like 30 hours for him. Makes sense he'd remember the total and feel like it basically fell in one day.

Almost all of it fell from about noon to noon (2/11 to 2/12).

We never officially measured... just guessing based on our heights and trying to walk in the yard which was almost impossible.   I am sure we had 4 feet on the ground on 2/12... but had about 8 inches on the ground before that storm.

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Big improvement on the EPS snowfall projections.  Close to 4 inches on the mean for SEA and 6 inches on the control.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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31 minutes ago, Brian_in_Leavenworth said:

That would be amazing to watch, but a lot of work to clear.  I can only imagine the berm on my driveway after such a big snow.  And the berms are always compact and icy, even if it is a relatively dry snow.

Feb 2019 was completely overwhelming here. We had 140" of snow and one big rainstorm right in the middle of it all. 

The plow would berm you in 3-5 times a day. Brutal. 

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18 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

February 1936, March 1960, and December 1983? At least to a 21st century extent, the pattern looks kinda similar and none of those were super -PNA driven.

March 3, 1960 is subtly one of the most incredible winter weather days in U.S. history. Literally the entire northern tier of states was under a snowstorm at the same time. 

Thanks. 1983 came to mind, but seemed like there was still greeter blocking on the Pacific side (-EPO) for that one.

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Biggest 24 hour snowfall I’ve seen here at my house was 9” from noon February 8th to about 10am February 9th. Even that was pretty awesome. Then 5” in 2 hours the next night...and 6” the day after that! 

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Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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Bruh...

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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Anybody else here never experienced an Arctic front?

Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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5 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said:

18z NAM looks a bit further east vs. 12z through Monday AM.

The problem with the NAM is it gets such a cold bias late in the run that subsequent runs have little choice but to pull back.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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4 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Anybody else here never experienced an Arctic front?

You could still get one out of this.  To answer your question I've seen quite a few.  Seattle does better than NW OR in that regard if your talking fronts from the north.

The one in Nov 2010 was pretty amazing.  It was about 35 when the snow began an had plunged to 22 during the heart of the storm.  Flash freeze for sure.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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4 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

You could still get one out of this.  To answer your question I've seen quite a few.  Seattle does better than NW OR in that regard if your talking fronts from the north.

Anywhere. I've been to some other cold-prone spots but had bad luck. Or I wasn't here when one impacted the south valley. Again, just bad luck.

Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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Just now, Snowdrift said:

Move to Spokane. This will be an arctic front with flurries and gusty winds.

I'd love our family to move anywhere that has an actual winter, but unfortunately that will never happen. I'm very grateful for my living situation. The weather is the only bummer for a snow and cold-lover like me. I still have tons of positives in life, especially sports.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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8 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Thanks. 1983 came to mind, but seemed like there was still greeter blocking on the Pacific side for that one.

Yeah, there definitely was actually. That was a pretty crazy AK block. Barrow hit 32 on the 23rd! Just led to more of a bleed in from the PV in Central Canada that eventually migrated eastward and spread out longitudinally.

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The arctic fronts I remember are Dec 1990, Jan 1996, February 1995, January 2004, December 2008.

Some of the more back door blasts are more of a slow bleed. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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6 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said:

Biggest 24 hour snowfall I’ve seen here at my house was 9” from noon February 8th to about 10am February 9th. Even that was pretty awesome. Then 5” in 2 hours the next night...and 6” the day after that! 

That was really crazy how the warm nose stalled in that storm.  I live just across from N Tacoma in Gig Harbor at 370' and we ended up with 17".  Even a mile down the road from me it rained for hrs while we were still getting snow.  About 5 miles North of my place in Olalla there was probably another 5 or 6".  Never changed over in Port Orchard.  

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