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7 minutes ago, RentonHillTC said:

somebody who knows something tell me about this setup. All i can see is that temps seem much more seasonable/cool than the 12z after day 6. 

 

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Coldest weather on the 18z occurs in the next few hours, fwiw.

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Looks lie the GFS continues the idea of the bizarre cold trough undercutting all of the blocking before day 10.  A cold outcome is showing up on over half of the runs now.  Too bad the parallel hasn't run since he 6z.  At least the 18z EPS will go out to day 6.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 minute ago, Jesse said:

Also I’m sure you guys all share the sentiment that the flips and flops on the models have been pretty exhausting the last couple weeks. I see there appears to be some upcoming potential once again but sometimes it’s nice just to take a back seat for a day or two and see how things evolve.

Or four or five really. I mean the potential coming is having to get colder and the precip rates are going to have to be heavier as well with these sun angles if you want any meaningful snow to stick. Instead of -8C 850mb temps with flat gradients you’ll need -10C 850’s with flat or -12C 850’s with light onshore flow even. If it procrastinates even more we’ll need a full in ‘89 event to do anything. 
 

Im babbling and irritated that we can’t score in the heart of winter very often when the atmosphere is primed and the sun is low. 

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Nother great run!

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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1 hour ago, High Desert Mat? said:

Or four or five really. I mean the potential coming is having to get colder and the precip rates are going to have to be heavier as well with these sun angles if you want any meaningful snow to stick. Instead of -8C 850mb temps with flat gradients you’ll need -10C 850’s with flat or -12C 850’s with light onshore flow even. If it procrastinates even more we’ll need a full in ‘89 event to do anything. 
 

Im babbling and irritated that we can’t score in the heart of winter very often when the atmosphere is primed and the sun is low. 

It can be frustrating. There was a point where I was pretty “onboard” with something at least fairly interesting for the last half of January.

Was nice to see some lowland spots get snow on the 26th but overall the most the big pattern change did was keep us from scoring another top tier warm month. Which was great and all but it would have been fun to get a little more out of a -PNA period directly following some major warm first half of the winter karma. 

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Only 26 days until March now. We need something good to start showing up on the models in a hurry. We’re entering historically bad territory here as we’ve only had 7 freezes so far this winter and just one sub 40 high temp. Every month this cold season has been above average temp wise besides November which was average. 

Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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8 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Nother great run!

So great!  

Lots of dry days... no arctic air... very little lowland snow... warmer than the 12Z run... what else can we ask for?   😄

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4 minutes ago, Timmy said:

Day 7-12ish would be cooler than the next few hours by quite a bit.  Looks like cold offshore flow

Could be.  Weak offshore flow starts to lose its punch pretty quickly from here on out though.  Thicknesses never drop as low as they are right meow.

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25 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Total snow per the 18Z GFS over the next 16 days... to call this great is an understatement!    

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Lightest shade of grey baby!! Woo Hoo!! 

Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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Anyone got the 18z ensemble spaghetti chart?!

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Anyone got the 18z ensemble spaghetti chart?!

Here is the 18Z GEFS mean at 240 hours... great run again.

 

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Not what I asked for Tim. So literally thanks for nothing. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Not what I asked for Tim. So literally thanks for nothing. 

Yeah... I don't have the link to the spaghetti charts.   Sorry about that.   But the GEFS mean is also worth posting.  

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Just now, TT-SEA said:

My son just reported positive splats at the Snoqualmie Ridge exit on I-90.

I heard it is snowing on Mt. Hood. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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15 minutes ago, TheNewCulverJosh said:

I am expecting you to see at least a few inches overnight....perfect setup for you.

Pretty borderline as far as temps go though. Above 2000' should be great, we will see about here. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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