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1 hour ago, mtep said:

Just took a drive to escape finals and saw that Stewart and Sumas mountains are both covered in snow down to about 1500'. Do other people often think about how different the climate would be for many if elevations above 1000' were more developed in W WA? Overall im glad they arent, because the highlands are so pristine, but its fun to think about. 

I think about it all the time. ¬†I wish the populated areas were above 1500 feet. ¬†ūüėá

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The 18z parallel really runs with the possible cold snap in the 7 to 12 day period.  Basically it and the regular operational are taking turns at showing a cold outcome with that.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2020-21 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 5

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 23

Lows 32 or below = 55

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 5

 

 

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3 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

A visually beautiful day here...

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Weather Data for Klamath Falls, OR
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Snowfall (with % of seasonal average)

2010-2011 - 60.70" (168%)
2011-2012 - 49.00" (136%)
2012-2013 - 25.10" (70%)
2013-2014 - 9.05" (25%)
2014-2015 - 2.90" (8%)
2015-2016 - 54.45" (151%)
2016-2017 - 63.00" (175%)
2017-2018 - 18.10" (50%)
2018-2019 - 52.30" (145%)
2019-2020 - 37.00" (103%)
 
2020-2021 - 19.00" (53%)
Nov '20 - 00.20" (5%)
Dec '20 - 04.40" (44%)
Jan '21 - 03.50" (29%)
Feb '21 - 07.10" (78%)
Mar '21 - 03.30" (132%)
Apr '21 - 00.50"
 
2021 Thunderstorms (1)
05/14, 05/--
 
Biggest Snowstorm - 18.4" (Jan 3-4 2017 - 26 hours)
Top 5 Daily Snows: 12.40" (01/03/2017), 8.20" (11/23/2010), 7.50" (12/13/2015), 6.60" (02/07/2017), 6.20" (03/10/2019)
Honorable Mention: 6.00" (03/20/2012), 6.00" (02/28/2012), 6.00" (01/16/2020), 5.70" (12/14/2016), 5.50" (01/18/2012)
Max Depths: 21.00" (01/07/2017), 18.00" (12/24/2015), 13.00" (01/16/2020), 11.00" (11/23/2010), 9.50" (02/27/2019), 9.00" (02/28/2012)
 
T'storm Days: 10 (2020), 14 (2019), 16 (2018), 12 (2017), 13 (2016), 20 (2015), 21 (2014), 16 (2013), 2 (2012), 12 (2011)
1980-2015 Avg = 12
Severe T'storms: 6 (08/05/2020), (08/10/2019), (08/08/2017), (07/24/2017), (01/19/2016), (08/05/2012) 
"Almost" Severe: 2 (08/10/2017), (05/04/2016)
Vicinity Severe T'storms (close enough to hear, with official severe reports)
(06/26/2017), (08/05/2016), (07/09/2015), (07/05/2015), (06/09/2015), (08/05/2014), (08/04/2014), (08/22/2013), (08/12/2013), (09/12/2011), (09/04/2011)

 

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Looks like 43 or so will be about it for my high today.  Really sets the stage for a chilly night.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2020-21 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 5

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 23

Lows 32 or below = 55

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 5

 

 

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45/34 today 0.06‚ÄĚ of precip mostly from wet snow falling earlier. DP is 27 if we clear out more could improve on that low of 34.¬†

Warm Season Stats

+80s-1

+85s-0

+90s-0

Monthly Rainfall-0.57‚ÄĚ

Warm Season Rainfall-1.73‚ÄĚ

Warmest high temp-80

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10 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Looks like 43 or so will be about it for my high today.  Really sets the stage for a chilly night.

Hoping to get our second freeze this month tonight. Either way nice negative departure the last couple days.

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Warm Season Stats

+80s-1

+85s-0

+90s-0

Monthly Rainfall-0.57‚ÄĚ

Warm Season Rainfall-1.73‚ÄĚ

Warmest high temp-80

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40/27 today. Bet Jesse likes that high of 47 at Pdx 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 58.15"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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Looks like pdx bumped to 48, still sub 50.

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 58.15"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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Nice flurry  in progress. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 58.15"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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5 hours ago, mtep said:

Just took a drive to escape finals and saw that Stewart and Sumas mountains are both covered in snow down to about 1500'. Do other people often think about how different the climate would be for many if elevations above 1000' were more developed in W WA? Overall im glad they arent, because the highlands are so pristine, but its fun to think about. 

If there was a town of a decent size at about 1500' in Western Washington, I probably would have moved there already. The best we have is probably Ashford and Greenwater (both near Mt. Rainier, both about 1700') but both are very small with the expected very limited services.

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It's called clown range for a reason.

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4 hours ago, SnowChild said:

I think about it all the time. ¬†I wish the populated areas were above 1500 feet. ¬†ūüėá

Would definitely make for a highland experience. ;)

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Ended up with a 46/28 spread here today. Not bad at all for the middle of March considering we had a good deal of sun at times. Even had a pretty hefty rain snow mix around 3pm. Some big wet flakes mixed in there.

Partly cloudy and already down to 39 currently.

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Definitely think we get below freezing even here tonight. 30-32 seems realistic. 

Warm Season Stats

+80s-1

+85s-0

+90s-0

Monthly Rainfall-0.57‚ÄĚ

Warm Season Rainfall-1.73‚ÄĚ

Warmest high temp-80

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14 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

If there was a town of a decent size at about 1500' in Western Washington, I probably would have moved there already. The best we have is probably Ashford and Greenwater (both near Mt. Rainier, both about 1700') but both are very small with the expected very limited services.

You could live above 1500ft in greater Vancouver but you‚Äôd have to move to ūüá®ūüᶬ†

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21 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

If there was a town of a decent size at about 1500' in Western Washington, I probably would have moved there already. The best we have is probably Ashford and Greenwater (both near Mt. Rainier, both about 1700') but both are very small with the expected very limited services.

There is not a town above 1500' of any size in Western Oregon either other than Ashland, but their climate is much much different than areas further north. 

Detroit, Oregon was about 1650' and had about 500', but it burned to the ground last summer. 

Oakridge southeast of Eugene is at 1240' and has about 3300 people, scenic area, but not a real great place to live. They do alright with cold onshore flow. 


There are some small towns going out toward Mt. Hood, Sandy (Kind of a suburb) is around 1000', a couple smaller towns further up around 1200-1500', but they aren't very big. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 58.15"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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Living at 1600' is nice, but no joke. Internet sucks, there is no cell service, it's common to have power outages last multiple days every winter. But overall it's not a bad life. 

I feel there is this perception from some Washington posters that there are a lot of people living above 1500' in Western Oregon. Maybe more down here than in W. Washington, but in almost all cases you have to be willing to live pretty far out of the way to live about 1500' in Western Oregon, and there really are not a lot of people who live above that elevation even in this area, sure we have houses on the ridge above us that go up to about 2000', but we are only talking about maybe a couple dozen houses. All told maybe a couple hundred people in this area living above 1500', and we are talking about a fairly spread out very rural area. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 58.15"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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37 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

There is not a town above 1500' of any size in Western Oregon either other than Ashland, but their climate is much much different than areas further north. 

Detroit, Oregon was about 1650' and had about 500', but it burned to the ground last summer. 

Oakridge southeast of Eugene is at 1240' and has about 3300 people, scenic area, but not a real great place to live. They do alright with cold onshore flow. 


There are some small towns going out toward Mt. Hood, Sandy (Kind of a suburb) is around 1000', a couple smaller towns further up around 1200-1500', but they aren't very big. 

Government Camp is basically the only town of any size in the Cascades between Mt. Shasta City and Whistler, at least above 3,000.

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I think it managed to¬†get to 45¬į today. Clouds cleared back out just before 6pm and at least in Woodinville it is 40¬į right now.¬†

Above Richmond Beach, Shoreline. 475 feet

2020-2021: 15.6", 2/15

2019-2020: ~10"

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

Weather station/wx cam:
http://map.bloomsky.com/weather-stations/gqBxp6apnJSnqqm2

https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KWABOTHE144#history

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Looks like it’s cleared up nicely and it’s down to 39 here. 

Warm Season Stats

+80s-1

+85s-0

+90s-0

Monthly Rainfall-0.57‚ÄĚ

Warm Season Rainfall-1.73‚ÄĚ

Warmest high temp-80

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41 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said:

You could live above 1500ft in greater Vancouver but you‚Äôd have to move to ūüá®ūüᶬ†

Simon Fraser University is on a 1,200 foot hill ten miles from Downtown Vancouver.  Seems like they have a pretty good climate. I check their webcam in borderline setups and it's very often snowy.

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Everett Snowfall

 

2018-19: 24.75"

2019-20: 10.5"

 

1/10: 0.5"

1/12: 5.5"

1/13: 1"

1/14: 1.5"

1/15: 2"

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Jesse said:

Government Camp is basically the only town of any size in the Cascades between Mt. Shasta City and Whistler, at least above 3,000.

Less than 200 people live there according to this. And technically it is not an incorporated town, as incorporation failed about a decade ago 48-35. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_Camp,_Oregon

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 58.15"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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I love that clipper around day 9 on the GFS.  We are on a roll!

Tonight looks like it going to put up some amazing numbers.  Already places in the upper 20s and low 30s.  It just cleared out here so I'm a bit behind, but it's falling fast now. Currently 37.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2020-21 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 5

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 23

Lows 32 or below = 55

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 5

 

 

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Just now, snow_wizard said:

I love that clipper around day 9 on the GFS.  We are on a roll!

Tonight looks like it going to put up some amazing numbers.  Already places in the upper 20s and low 30s.  It just cleared out here so I'm a bit behind, but it's falling fast now. Currently 37.

Looks like lots of rain.  I think we are about to get on a wet roll.   Which probably makes sense.  And the GFS is about to be retired.   

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It appears this is the first run where the operational and parallel both handle the complex setup around day 9 the same way and we get a cold outcome.  Another one that taps into some unseasonably cold air.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2020-21 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 5

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 23

Lows 32 or below = 55

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 5

 

 

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3 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Looks like lots of rain.  I think we are about to get on a wet roll.   Which probably makes sense.  And the GFS is about to be retired.   

Looks good for W. Washington, cold air doesn't dig far enough south for snow at face value. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 58.15"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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3 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Looks like lots of rain.  I think we are about to get on a wet roll.   Which probably makes sense.  And the GFS is about to be retired.   

Looks like we will return to drier colder regime again.  Still a lot to be worked out with that though.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2020-21 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 5

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 23

Lows 32 or below = 55

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 5

 

 

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As far as the regular GFS vs parallel...I'm still not sold on the parallel being better.  At any rate they both look good late month.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2020-21 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 5

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 23

Lows 32 or below = 55

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 5

 

 

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Down freezing again. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 58.15"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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6 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

It appears this is the first run where the operational and parallel both handle the complex setup around day 9 the same way and we get a cold outcome.  Another one that taps into some unseasonably cold air.

Legacy is way more aggressive.

Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 58.15"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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Old Skool GFS looks good. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 58.15"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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10 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Looks like we will return to drier colder regime again.  Still a lot to be worked out with that though.

I would bet on a wet regime.   

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8 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Down freezing again. 

32 here as well. 
 

had a high of 48F today with lots of sunshine. ¬†‚ÄėTwas a nice day.¬†

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I'm going to miss this kind of eye candy on the GFS when they turn out the lights. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 58.15"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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GEM does also have a pretty deep trough at day 10. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 58.15"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

There is not a town above 1500' of any size in Western Oregon either other than Ashland, but their climate is much much different than areas further north. 

Detroit, Oregon was about 1650' and had about 500', but it burned to the ground last summer. 

Oakridge southeast of Eugene is at 1240' and has about 3300 people, scenic area, but not a real great place to live. They do alright with cold onshore flow. 


There are some small towns going out toward Mt. Hood, Sandy (Kind of a suburb) is around 1000', a couple smaller towns further up around 1200-1500', but they aren't very big. 

 

Morton, WA is about 950' and even has a bowling alley.

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1 minute ago, BLI snowman said:

 

Morton, WA is about 950' and even has a bowling alley.

I would guess they get more snow than Oakridge. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 58.15"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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Hmmm. Well okay then...

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 58.15"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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Wow!  I hope people weren't counting on spring anytime soon.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2020-21 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 7.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 5

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 23

Lows 32 or below = 55

Highs 32 or below = 2

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 5

 

 

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2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I would guess they get more snow than Oakridge. 

They do, and a little further east Randle and Packwood do even better at a similar elevation. Packwood gets some outflow bleed-in over White Pass from time to time as well and can see some pretty respectable temps.

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