snow_wizard Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 It's kind of coast to coast right now..unfortunately the NAO failed this go around, unlike 1968-69. We'll attempt at it again in late January, but we'll have a +PNA by then. The bottom line is we just can't buy a great January here anymore. So incredibly frustrating. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 The European models sure look good for a huge inversion. The UKMET in particular. Whatever it sure looks like our big chance was blown for this winter. I expect we will have one more window at some point, but still.One more shot in mid/late February, with the next round of WPAC forcing. It'd be ironic if it actually turned out to be something big. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 One more shot in mid/late February, with the next round of WPAC forcing. It'd be ironic if it actually turned out to be something big. No question we're at least getting good windows of opportunity this winter. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 One more shot in mid/late February, with the next round of WPAC forcing. It'd be ironic if it actually turned out to be something big.Considering the build up and excitement for this event that ended up basically nothing... I won't be holding my breath in anticipation. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skagit Weather Posted January 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 It appears that all the models show a slight chance of snow in the northern areas of Washington with the onset of precipitation Saturday night into Sunday. 850mb temps are -4 to -6 when the precipitation moves in, but they do quickly warm as the heavier precipitation approaches. 1 Quote Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008): Max Temp: 96.3F (2009) Min Temp: 2.0F (2008) Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021) Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22) Avg Yearly Precip: 37" 10yr Avg Snow: 8.0" Snowfall Totals '08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 The bottom line is we just can't buy a great January here anymore. So incredibly frustrating. Almost as frustrating as the constant negativity around here? Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Someday we'll have a great January again. Hopefully all of us are still alive to see it. BLI said something I agree with last week. Given that we saw two major arctic airmasses last winter the odds of having a major outbreak this year weren't great.Last winter really was an odd one. I think it will look a lot better in retrospect, especially for Oregon. What kept it from being great was that there was literally nothing surrounding those outbreaks, and north of Kelso there was very little snow. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Looks like another 5-6 weeks until the next round of WPAC forcing You're probably going to get a bunch of crap for the missed cold in the PNW, but I was pretty sure we'd get smacked also, as well as many others on here. Unfortunately, you sung the song the loudest, so you'll get it the worst =P As far as the next potential... I agree that Feb is our next window of opportunity. If tropical forcing progresses as it has been, I'd say beginning of Feb rather than mid/late Feb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 In the end what difference does it really make. We have been through so many stinker winters in the PNW, We've had no complete duds in about ten years. It was bound to happen. We lived through 2002-03 and 2004-05 and some of us are old enough to remember 91-92. It happens. If this year ends up a dud we'll survive. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 You're probably going to get a bunch of crap for the missed cold in the PNW, but I was pretty sure we'd get smacked also, as well as many others on here. Unfortunately, you sung the song the loudest, so you'll get it the worst =P As far as the next potential... I agree that Feb is our next window of opportunity. If tropical forcing progresses as it has been, I'd say beginning of Feb rather than mid/late Feb What do you guys think about March? Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 You're probably going to get a bunch of crap for the missed cold in the PNW, but I was pretty sure we'd get smacked also, as well as many others on here. Unfortunately, you sung the song the loudest, so you'll get it the worst =P As far as the next potential... I agree that Feb is our next window of opportunity. If tropical forcing progresses as it has been, I'd say beginning of Feb rather than mid/late Feb I wholeheartedly stand behind anyone who called a big cold wave for early Jan (or so). There was a lot of good science behind it and a lot of historical evidence. January has gotten to a be huge disappointment around here. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Some nice inversions starting to develop in E. Oregon. Ontario only 12 at noon. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Guess I should consider myself lucky with the snow I recieved last winter and again during this past November. I really enjoyed the November event, would have been nice to have gotten more than the 2.5" of snow but the fact it stuck around for a week and we had a many day stretch of below freezing temps was nice.First pic was Dec 2013, second pic was Nov 2014. 3 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 In the end what difference does it really make. We have been through so many stinker winters in the PNW, We've had no complete duds in about ten years. It was bound to happen. We lived through 2002-03 and 2004-05 and some of us are old enough to remember 91-92. It happens. If this year ends up a dud we'll survive. This one has already had more than 2002-03 and ones like it...at least in this area. The thing that really bums me out is the fact this could be 3 winters in a row with very little snow here. That is really hard to take. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 BTW I hope you guys take a look at the thread about SEA having its warmest year on record. Some pretty amazing stats. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Almost as frustrating as the constant negativity around here? Eh... Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 I wouldn't mind a Feb 2011 repeat! 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 BTW I hope you guys take a look at the thread about SEA having its warmest year on record. Some pretty amazing stats. Tremendous. I haven't looked at Salem, but I wouldn't be surprised if they had their warmest year too. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 And for what its worth...it's still 31 degrees here at noon. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 You're probably going to get a bunch of crap for the missed cold in the PNW, but I was pretty sure we'd get smacked also, as well as many others on here. Unfortunately, you sung the song the loudest, so you'll get it the worst =P As far as the next potential... I agree that Feb is our next window of opportunity. If tropical forcing progresses as it has been, I'd say beginning of Feb rather than mid/late FebThing is, the large scale pattern transitioned exactly as we thought it would, particularly the PNA retrograde. Unfortunately, the elasticity of the barotropic PV/+NAO was just too tough to overcome. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 What do you guys think about March?I can foresee the headlines: "2015, the year without a spring". At least somewhere. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Coast to coast cold! 1968-69!! It looks like a totally run of the mill airmass back east, too. Not seeing how this month turns into a frigid one for the country as a whole unless something big happens towards the end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Anyone think we might see a little sleet or ZR tomorrow? Even though all the wundermap temp read upper 30's it still feels like it's below freezing and there is still frost, granted I am in the shade, but even still, if the air temperature were really 40, wouldn't the frost melt?? Quote "Avoiding unwanted weather is a key element of happiness." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Anyone think we might see a little sleet or ZR tomorrow? Even though all the wundermap temp read upper 30's it still feels like it's below freezing and there is still frost, granted I am in the shade, but even still, if the air temperature were really 40, wouldn't the frost melt?? Depends on where your farm is, boy. 2 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 I can foresee the headlines: "2015, the year without a spring". At least somewhere. The 2008 snowfall comparison headlines are going to have to flush out around here first. 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parksvillewx Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Looks like I may get some snow on Sunday before the rain changeover. Going to be a slopfest here if that pans out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Looks like I may get some snow on Sunday before the rain changeover. Going to be a slopfest here if that pans out.I guess a slopfest is better than no fest... Quote "Avoiding unwanted weather is a key element of happiness." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Looks like I may get some snow on Sunday before the rain changeover. Going to be a slopfest here if that pans out.Looking that way right now. Gfs is pretty bullish hanging onto near freezing or below 925mb temps, easterly winds, and a fair amount of precip. Higher elevations around nanaimo could get 8-10" if that panned out. Looks like 2-6" down here. I would be worried if I lived near the ocean, might be tough to see actual sticking snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Depends on where your farm is, boy. Puyallup, in the valley... Quote "Avoiding unwanted weather is a key element of happiness." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman5678 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 2014 stats at my location. I borrowed Skagit Weather's template. Temperature: Average: 51.6Average Max: 60.3Average Min: 43Max temp: 102Min temp: 9Subfreezing lows: 49Subfreezing Highs: 5Lows below 20: 10Highs above 80: 47Highs above 90: 12Highs above 100: 1 Precipitation:Total: 60.48”Wettest Day: 1.83”Days over 1": 15Days of Precipitation: 163Days of Snow: 9Days of mix: 4Total Snowfall: 8.25”Maximum Snow Depth: 4” Other:Thunderstorm Days: 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 The 2008 snowfall comparison headlines are going to have to flush out around here first.To be fair, I gave it a 60/40 chance assuming full wave synchronization. The NAO failed..looking back at it, I probably should have known that would happen given the stacked/barotropic PV anomaly there. Elasticity won the day this time..live and learn! Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 It looks like a totally run of the mill airmass back east, too. Not seeing how this month turns into a frigid one for the country as a whole unless something big happens towards the end.ECMWF gives us a few days with single-digit highs. Not all that impressive, but Arctic nonetheless. Certainly nothing close to the -25F we saw last year Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 How does the 18z NAM & GFS look for this weekend? 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 ECMWF gives us a few days with single-digit highs. Not all that impressive, but Arctic nonetheless. Certainly nothing close to the -25F we saw last yearDoubt I'll see -25 this winter either. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan the Weatherman Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 The bottom line is we just can't buy a great January here anymore. So incredibly frustrating.We can't seem to buy a decent stormy January in CA anymore for good rains and snows to help out with our drought. I believe it is related to the reason you can't score up there, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Puyallup, in the valley... Then, yeah... no. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 2014 was salem s warmest year on record beating out 1926 by 0.1F Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 To be fair, I gave it a 60/40 chance assuming full wave synchronization. The NAO failed..looking back at it, I probably should have known that would happen given the stacked/barotropic PV anomaly there. Elasticity won the day this time..live and learn! It was the moment you lost me from your 2014-15 bandwagon. I never thought we were primed for a big January but up until that point I thought you were pretty reasonable with your postulations and things were tracking nicely. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 2nd warmest year at Pdx. Just missed 1992. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 2nd warmest year at Pdx. Just missed 1992. But did you see how we swung-and-missed on that heatwave back in July???? Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.