CentralNebWeather Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 13 minutes ago, Clinton said: 12z NAM also further east. I bet ya get a WWA. Thanks. Been busy, so haven't had time to look at updates. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 Adding to subject matter. A look over last night's 00z GFS run, I would say that is the most likely general runout for the pattern. Results being an interior western ridge of varying size. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 Some of the short term models look to have some pretty intense snow rates early Friday morning. Snow happening at night would probably increase some of the totals by sunrise tomorrow morning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 12Z GFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 Looking at the long term 12z GFS, it is one depressing run. Shot after shot of cold air. The jet stream is parked over the far southern United States, preventing any warm air from heading this way. Finally around day 9-10 the jet stream starts to buckle and eventually in the day 12ish time frame we start to see a warmup for a lot of the midwest from southern MN on south. But this is a long ways off, so definitely subject to change. We can only hope that is the start of the break to this awful weather pattern we are stuck in. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstorm83 Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 HRRR brings accumulations really close to Lincoln. Models don't have temps getting lower than 37-38, accumulations aren't happening there, maybe a few wet snowflakes tomm morning at best. Quote Snowfall in Lincoln, NE: 2017-18: 21.4" 2018-19: 55.5" 2019-20: 17.6" 2020-21: 49.4" 2021-22: 5.1" Average: 26" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 12Z Euro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 The op Euro is also beginning to tease the return of spring warmth by day ten. 4 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 18Z HRRR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 2 hours ago, bud2380 said: Looking at the long term 12z GFS, it is one depressing run. Shot after shot of cold air. The jet stream is parked over the far southern United States, preventing any warm air from heading this way. Finally around day 9-10 the jet stream starts to buckle and eventually in the day 12ish time frame we start to see a warmup for a lot of the midwest from southern MN on south. But this is a long ways off, so definitely subject to change. We can only hope that is the start of the break to this awful weather pattern we are stuck in. Good thing about the GFS in the longer range is that it's usually wrong and overdoes every cold push 9/10 times. THen it gets 1 right and people are like "wow the GFS nailed it". How many weeks did it take to get the GFS longer range right once this winter? 8 straight weeks it showed extreme cold air and finally the 9th week it happened? I'll take the Euro for the win. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 It is a winter wonderland here. There were 3-4" on top of my son's car, but in the grass it was probably a little over 2". Plenty of melting even in the dark. The streets were a slushy water combination. If this had happened during the day, I don't think anything would have accumulated. I would guess by late morning most will melt. If we officially finish with 3", we will be very close to 50" of snowfall for the season. My guess last night was we'd get 3", so I'm going to be pretty close. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 Holdrege at 6:50 am. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 This is still several days out and accumulations will depend on timing. but a late season snow looking more possible. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 17 hours ago, Hawkeye said: The op Euro is also beginning to tease the return of spring warmth by day ten. Well, this didn't stick. Last night's Euro replaced the warm surge with yet another blast of cold. 1 2 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 21 minutes ago, Hawkeye said: Well, this didn't stick. Last night's Euro replaced the warm surge with yet another blast of cold. Strat warming, Displaced Polar Vortex and the growing signs of a strong -NAO block...not a pretty combo to finish off the last weekend of April (except for the western Plains states). Last nights 00z EPS says Winter ain't over just yet and some snow may be flying around the MW/GL's region. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 16 hours ago, Stacsh said: Good thing about the GFS in the longer range is that it's usually wrong and overdoes every cold push 9/10 times. THen it gets 1 right and people are like "wow the GFS nailed it". How many weeks did it take to get the GFS longer range right once this winter? 8 straight weeks it showed extreme cold air and finally the 9th week it happened? I'll take the Euro for the win. I agree...GFS may not be cold enough... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 00z EPS members advertising a strong signal for an April version of a "front runner" cutting up into the lower lakes region...if this holds, it should push ORD past the 50" mark...I'm game... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 With cloudy skies the overnight low here was held up to 39. Here is part of todays GRR NWS discussion. ” THIS AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL BRING A CALM AND COOL NIGHT TO ALL OF THE AREA. NORMALLY WITH THE EXPECTED TEMPERATURES IN THE LOWER 30S FOR MOST, WE WOULD BE ISSUING A FROST ADVISORY. AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED MANY TIMES, LOCAL AGRICULTURAL EXPERTS ADVISE THAT IMPACTS WILL NOT HAPPEN UNTIL TEMPS GET DOWN INTO THE 20S FOR THE AREAS WHERE FRUIT TREES ARE STARTING TO BUD OUT. THE NORMALLY COLDER AREA OF INTERIOR CENTRAL LOWER WILL LIKELY GET DOWN INTO THE UPPER 20S, BUT THERE ARE NOT REALLY ANY FRUIT TREES UP THERE.” Having lived in Michigan for many, many years I never knew there was a line to the NE of Grand Rapids where there were no more fruit trees. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstorm83 Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 Every EPS member has accumulating snow Monday night/Tues morning for Lincoln....LOL what even 1 1 Quote Snowfall in Lincoln, NE: 2017-18: 21.4" 2018-19: 55.5" 2019-20: 17.6" 2020-21: 49.4" 2021-22: 5.1" Average: 26" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, snowstorm83 said: Every EPS member has accumulating snow Monday night/Tues morning for Lincoln....LOL what even Looks like we could be in for a slush fest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 The rain today looks to be running into a brick wall to my west. Looks like 1/4 of an inch will be more likely than an inch today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 Euro 10:1 map It's looking like just a bit of white on the grass for me. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, Hawkeye said: Euro 10:1 map It's looking like just a bit of white on the grass for me. Cmon! What the hell is going on here? Give me spring! I have sand volleyball starting in a couple weeks. Unreal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 6 hours ago, Tom said: 00z EPS members advertising a strong signal for an April version of a "front runner" cutting up into the lower lakes region...if this holds, it should push ORD past the 50" mark...I'm game... Trees are flowering here. Most beautiful season in Marshall. Don't want to see it ruined by appreciable snow like 4/23/05. Worst climo when that happens bro 2 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlgamer Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 It's been cool lately, but I've been outdoors in full spring time mode recently (and real life has been keeping me extra busy of late). Yet here we are on 4/16 and I'm looking at model forecast snow maps. That's just wrong. @Clintonradar has looked impressive at times but I've only picked up 0.15" of rain today. 3 Quote 23-24 seasonal snow total: 17.8" (as of 3/9/24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, mlgamer said: It's been cool lately, but I've been outdoors in full spring time mode recently (and real life has been keeping me extra busy of late). Yet here we are on 4/16 and I'm looking at model forecast snow maps. That's just wrong. @Clintonradar has looked impressive at times but I've only picked up 0.15" of rain today. Only a trace of rain here so far. I'm ready for some real spring weather and get my garden planted. Trees are beginning to leaf out so I'd rather not see much snow. Figures that mother nature would open up on us in mid April lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 Fun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 I’m just south of the 6” circle in Central Nebraska 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstorm83 Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 NAM is more north than GFS. It's been so chilly lately that now we might as well get snow out of this pattern. Quote Snowfall in Lincoln, NE: 2017-18: 21.4" 2018-19: 55.5" 2019-20: 17.6" 2020-21: 49.4" 2021-22: 5.1" Average: 26" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 I went ahead and started a storm thread for next weeks storm system... https://theweatherforums.com/index.php?/topic/7983-420-421-april-cutter/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 Summer '21 thread... https://theweatherforums.com/index.php?/topic/7985-summer-2021-observations-and-discussion/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 Looks like a 3 day cold shot for the GL's, then back to normal. Beautiful sunny average weekend coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 I picked up .22 inches of rain yesterday. Scattered sprinkles and showers are in the forecast for the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 Monday and Tuesday are going to be cold. The Euro has us struggling to get above 40º both days. 1 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 Today ended up being very pleasant. The temp over-performed a bit and reached the low 60s. The wind was fairly light and the sun was out. Sunday should be similar. 4 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstorm83 Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 Snow chances automatically make me more active on here even if it's April Not that I'm a big severe person, but there hasn't been much to track the past few years anyways. Last year had a few good nighttime storms though. May 5, 2019 had that EF-2 tornado graze SW Lincoln, which was significant. Other than that, I think that's been the only TOR warning for the city of Lincoln since I moved here in 2017. You wouldn't think this is exactly "Tornado Alley" 2 1 Quote Snowfall in Lincoln, NE: 2017-18: 21.4" 2018-19: 55.5" 2019-20: 17.6" 2020-21: 49.4" 2021-22: 5.1" Average: 26" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 Same here. Even if it's April. Ran across this the other day. -111C = -168F. 67,000' TS tops. Simply amazing. https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/news/article/super-cold-thunderstorm-sets-record-with-minus-111-celsius-cloud-temperature 2 1 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 Here’s a preliminary look at the changes from the 30 year climate normals (1991-2020 minus 1981-2010). My part of se. Iowa hasn’t changed much temperature wise and maybe even dropped a hair if you look closely. It’s a little wetter though, which makes sense and I don’t mind. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 The overnight low here was 29 and with clear skies there was some frost. At this time it is clear and 30. With some snow in the forecast it would not take much snow fall to set a new record for Tuesday as the record for April 20th at Grand Rapids is just 0.4" set in 1943. At Muskegon it is 0.3" set in 1953 at Kalamazoo it is just a trace and at Lansing it is 2.0" set in 1947. For Wednesday the record at Grand Rapids is 2.0" set in 1924 at Muskegon it is 0.5" set in 1912 at Kalamazoo it is 3.0" set in 1922 and at Lansing it is 3.0 set in 1868 yes that is 1868. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted April 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 47 minutes ago, Sparky said: Here’s a preliminary look at the changes from the 30 year climate normals (1991-2020 minus 1981-2010). My part of se. Iowa hasn’t changed much temperature wise and maybe even dropped a hair if you look closely. It’s a little wetter though, which makes sense and I don’t mind. That is a fascinating map to see how much wetter things are getting up across the N Rockies/GL's/SE coast as well as the dryness that has transpired in the west/SW. It would be nice to have seen what a map of Canada looks like. I'd bet that it has cooled across the SW/C regions if you would take the map above and sorta see the cooler air up across the Dakotas/MT. You now, over the past 5 years or more, the N Rockies (esp MT) has seen tremendous amounts of snow in recent Winters and I've read that the glaciers up there are beginning to Grow. The national parks actually had to take down the signs which showed the glaciers were melting away...funny how nature turns things around in a positive light! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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