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There continues a large area of thunderstorms WNW of the Hawaiian Islands and satellite indicates this is the moisture source for the predicted AR 1-3 for Monday. As the trough ( 992 mb) approaches, hopefully the flow of upper level moisture continues to help fuel the cyclone as it goes down the California coast.

Those active CN thunderstorms WNW of Hawaii could be targeted by aquariusradar on board ships. The microwave energy applied immediately before the most intense rainfall, inhibits the growth and holds moisture aloft. The CN cell growth is checked just before the mature stage is reached and not allowed to "rain" itself out over the ocean. The water vapor held aloft now has more time to be swept north and eastward by the jet as it loops over the blocking high. 

In this scenario, aquariusradar translocates water from the central Pacific to the California coast fueling the low pressure storm that creates rain for California.

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A forum member posted the  question: Can flooding and extreme drought occur at the same time? Yes- and the recent AR that created local flooding is occurring during long term drought. Aquariusradar can help smooth the peaks between the two extremes. During this last AR+cyclone event, the Santa Cruz/Big Sur coastal region received 8+ inches of rain. The coastal streams were in flood and a large percentage of the rain rushed back and was lost to the ocean. A mobile aquariusradar situated in a coastal community, Big Sur for example, could target CN cells over the ocean as they approached the coast. The targeted CN cells are inhibited by the microwave energy and the clouds rain less. The added available moisture (water vapor) passes over the coastal mountains and is taken up by competing rain cells in the Central Valley. The rain that was causing coastal flooding has been transported to the Central Valley where the water can recharge the aquifer.

I spent many years as an operator of DoD radars. I have witnessed the effect of the microwave energy to inhibit and stop the growth of CN clouds. I also did a ten year study of the rainfall pattern around a large space surveillance radar in Florida. That study shows that the translocation of rain does occur; a dry rain shadow area and an well above average rainfall area. See my post above. A similar radar at Beale AFB in California might show the same results but the hilly terrain and lack of reporting stations make the analysis more difficult.   

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weatherfan2021 quoted Mr. Marine Layer, but I think he/she is referring to me. Forgive me if I am wrong.

weatherfan2012 thinks aquariusradar is bogus BS. As is usual, anything new is immediately termed 'heretic" or "conspiricy". But I know weatherman is just trolling to get his giggles. weatherman, why would you think I am a liar tossing out preposterous ideas? Have you operated high power radars and observed the effects of microwave energy on clouds. If so, let us know. I don't think you have. I have made an attempt for 15 years to explain how this concept can be put to advantage. It has not worked because this is the age of anti-science-everything is a government conspiracy-climate change is hoax-vaccines are evil, etc. I doubt if weatherman has ever considered what might improve the outlook for drought relief or how tornadoes might be averted. Why don't you put forward some scientific arguments that nullifies my aquariusradar idea and experience rather than simply calling me a crazy liar. 

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 One of the arguments to nullify the aquariusradar idea that might be put forward is that there is no scientific basis for thinking it would work. To the contrary, the idea is supported by the "butterfly effect" of chaos theory that is generally accepted by weather scientists. The early work of Edward Lorenz has promoted weather research so that today it is a top discipline in physics. This year  Klaus Hasselmann and  Syukuro Manabe received  the Nobel prize for physics for their work on climate change models. Much of that modeling is based on the earlier work of Lorenz. While he never won the Nobel, Lorenz received numerous awards and accolades in the scientific community.

Another anti-science argument might be that microwave energy cannot heat (speed up) water molecules. That's wrong of course. A low powered microwave oven can heat water to boiling and beyond. A larger microwave source-like a radar- can heat water in a cloud by a tiny amount at a much greater distance (20 miles?). That tiny heating effect is the "butterfly wing flapping", repeated many times as the radar sends out pulses of energy hundreds of times per second. That repetitive heating, while tiny, impacts the CN cloud development in a big way as the cloud development is non-linear. A tiny change at the start makes for big changes in growth (height?) of the dynamic CN cell. It doesn't work on less active strataform type clouds as those are slow to develop and are not dynamic but rather static in nature. The heating induced by the microwave energy inhibits the growth of the flooding CN thunderstorm and makes additional water vapor available for nearby storms and mountain lifting to translocate the rain to storage. 

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As is frequently the case, when it occurs, the full on ENSO/La Nina is creating flooding for the eastern coastal regions of Australia. Aquariusradar could be used to temper coastal storms, reducing flooding rainfall, and moving some of the moisture inland and possibly over the coast mountains to the dry interior. It is still warm there and limited snow would be expected on the higher peaks, but orographic lifting would promote rainfall and the filling of reservoirs on the mountain rivers. Using aquariusradar during La Nina periods would encourage the construction of new storage reservoirs at higher elevations above the coastal plain.

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It's Friday 1:30 pm and the start of a quiet weather weekend for SOCAL. But off the central coast just south of Eureka, bright yellow blobs among the greens of the radar reflectivity lie just offshore and move towards the east as a small cyclone approaches from the west. This heavier precipitation from the CN showers falls to the sea. If aquariusradar was at work, either ashore or on a ship just offshore, tempering those more active CN cells raining on the ocean surface, the inhibited showers would provide abundant moisture for showers moving up and over the coast mountains. Less rain on the ocean and more rain on the land. A large portion of that extra rain could be impounded by local reservoirs. SOCAL needs water and every opportunity to transport rain ashore from the ocean storms must be taken. Mother nature lifts the water to great height, aquariusradar inhibits the water coming down, and orographic storms ashore then use that extra moisture for more rain ashore. 

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The summer monsoon for the desert SW is underway. Tropical storm Blas is moving WNW; now just south of the Baja and predicted to die as a remnant low. The lightning strikes mark the thunderstorm activity- mostly on the north side of the storm circulation. Aquariusradar, operating on the south side of the storm, would temper thunderstorms there and provide more moisture for those storms on the north side of the storm. Constantly inhibiting individual thunderstorms on the south side of the circulation, and consequently encouraging thunderstorms on the northern half,TropicalBlas.png.2900a9e0d7cfbc0c7dacfb8fbe85d787.png would help steer the storm center on a more northerly path and eventually bring more moisture to SoCal and Arizona 

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Storm Blas has dissipated and TS Celia takes it's place. The monsoon moisture moves north and SoCal got some beneficial rain 22June. TS Blas contributed to the monsoon moisture flow that created the showers. The summer monsoon must be considered as a possible alternate for meaningful rain to the normal winter rains of California. The winter rain/snow  have been hit or miss for the last several decades. Those rains are dependent upon crossing up and over the blocking high. Like a black hole for moisture, the ridge has produced drought for California, Colorado Plateau, and the West in general.

Blas died at just the right place and moment to add to the northerly movement of monsoon moisture. The Pacific part of that moisture avoids the southern circulation of the Pacific high and surges up the west coast of Mexico into the low pressure area created by the desert summertime.

Aquariusradar can enrich this flow of moisture by targeting thunderstorms in storms like Blas and Celia. Those individual thunderstorms are inhibited and not allowed to complete the normal course of growth and decay. With moisture driven to high altitude, the targeted CN cell is not allowed to reach maturity and moisture remains aloft to follow the northward flow of the monsoon winds. Aquariusradar would operate from ships at sea.

 

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This cluster of thunderstorms over northern Sonora illustrates that monsoon moisture could be a major source of SoCal rain. Extreme southern Arizona got 1-2 inches from this storm with isolated 3 inch radar reports. California weather scientists  should be investigating methods to move more monsoon rain to SoCal using geo-engineering (weather modification). Drought stricken Northern Mexico would not object. 

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The latest AR put down almost 8 inches of rain at some areas- Bonney Doon fire station- above Santa Cruz in the San Lorenzo river valley. Many areas receiving 3 to 4 inches. A large part of the rainfall was lost to flooding to the Pacific via San Lorenzo river and nearby steep mountain streams- Lauguna Creek- direct to the ocean. A similar flooding AR in the 1980s destroyed the nearby town of Ben Lomond on Boulder Creek.This exact scenario is what I discussed years ago on my California Test page http://aquariusradar.com/californiatestproposal.html. This is a good example of how the Aquariusradar could be used to transport flooding rains inland. The microwave heating action, tiny as it is, can slow the rate of rainfall from CN rain storms. Powerful DoD radars are just up the coast at Pillar Point AFS- where I once worked- that can be used to act as the aquariusradar- quelling the downpour at the coast and allowing the moisture to remain aloft to move inland for more rain in the hills and valleys beyond and possibly snow in the distant Sierra. The Sierra doesn't allow moisture to move eastward. The high peaks create a rain shadow on the Nevada side. So if flooding coastal rain can be slowed and moisture kept aloft- almost for sure the rain or snow will come down in California. I have had no response from anyone who thinks this idea is of value for study.

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Aquariusradar does weather moderation. Weather modification doesn't imply for the bettor or for worse. Weather moderation implies a change for bettor- if it is too dry, aquariusradar can moderate the weather to make it not so dry. If it is too wet, aquariusradar can moderate the weather to make it not so wet. Overall it cannot change or modify regional weather. The aquariusradar simply acts to transport rain from a too much condition to storage. In doing so, aquariusradar provides stored water to moderate the too dry condition.

Unlike weather modification, aquariusradar does not use some longer lasting element that is no longer under immediate control upon release. For example, silver iodine crystals can remain in the atmosphere and fall to the surface. The jury is still out on the impact of putting stuff in the air to modify the weather. The action of aquariusradar is under immediate control at all times. Immediately upon turning off the microwave energy, the tiny heating effect upon cloud water particles is removed. The aquariusradar action is stopped.

This week's AR flooding in the central of the state is a good example of how aquariusradar could be used. By targeting CN storms in the region creating the flood- the lower half of the Consumes river basin for example, those storms produce less rainfall. More moisture is held aloft and come down as snowpack at the higher elevation of the Sierra. If the AR has so much water that the snowpack advances to an dangerous avalanche condition, then another aquariusradar targets those CN storms to loft the moisture over the higher peaks into Nevada and later the Colorado plateau. The flooding moisture of the AR is transported and spread out over a much larger area.

Aquariusradar is not terribly hi-tech- except the repair-done by companies expert in radar. Operation and maintenance by the local fire departments, emergency management, etc. For operation, the fireman takes off the fireman's hat and puts on the radar operators hat. The actual radar location could be atop the local fire station or  a vantage point that provides wide coverage. Pointing data provided by the NWS data that we are all familiar with. A regional emergency management station could direct several radars during flood times.

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Well, here again the cloud seeding folks get the grants to "increase precipitation 5-15 percent". Sure enough the Colorado river basin needs more rain, but silver iodine hasn't really work over the last 70 years of use. 2.4 million dollars is not much in terms of government spending for a good purpose; if it would work. It won't.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/feds-spend-2-4-million-202418535.html

Even if it did, the cloud seeding technique can be said to steal rain from downwind areas that normally would receive some of that precipitation.

On the other hand, Aquariusradar would have done a world of good during this extraordinary winter in California. By targeting CN cells as they approached the Sierra summit, the massive rainfall/snow is lessened and more moisture lofts over the Sierra barrier to be intercepted later by the Basin Range and Rockies. Most of that extra snow and rain would flow into the Colorado. In addition to distributing the moisture, water is saved as a large part of California snowpack/rain is lost to flood back to the Pacific ocean. Aquariusradar provides a win-win; water is transported from flood (to sea)to the Colorado river basin.

The aquariusradar idea is based on the work of Dr. Edward Lorenz, my own observation and experience as a high power radar operator, and a 10 year study of rainfall pattern around a powerful DoD surveillance radar in the Florida panhandle.

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Aquariusradar can quell (temper) the giant thunderstorms that create tornadoes. The terrible F4 funnel cloud that struck Rolling Fork Mississippi 26 March could have been lessened to a F2 or F1 or possibly eliminated altogether. In tornado country of the eastern half of the nation, the NWS radar stations could add a standby transmitter and antenna to perform the aquariusradar function; radiating on the menacing CN thunderstorms as they approach the rotation necessary to produce a tornado. The microwave radiation slows the development of the monster storm and nearby smaller CN clouds take up the moisture made available.

The Rolling Fork fire station could also do the job. At the direction of the local NWS and Emergency Management, the fire crew points the radar, located on the roof of the fire house, at the oncoming storm and radiates to lessen the storms intensity.

Aquariusradar works by slowing the growth of thunderstorms.

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Another video article featuring Ginger Zee- meteorologist- at ABC news about using weather modification (silver iodide dispersion) to help Colorado River basin drought. Colorado river drought     ABC News Weather Modification

The article does admit that a "wet" season is required to get the 3 to 15 % increase the industry boasts about. And the 2022-23 atmospheric rivers certainly provided that very wet season. And further  that some operations were terminated after the western snowpack grew too large. The article says no one is damaged by the activity and no downwind precipitation is affected. I disagree and point to the extended drought in Kansas, northern Oklahoma and Texas all of whom are downwind of the Colorado plateau. If water is removed from the atmosphere, someone downwind is going to lose that moisture. Call it weather modification? but it's really stealing someones water.

Aquariusradar does not do that. It does not take any additional water from the atmosphere. Aquariusradar redistributes excessive precipitation in a positive way. Aquariusradar makes no claim about increasing regional precipitation.

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Mexico continues a weather modification effort with silver iodide to fight the ongoing drought. Mexico drought  If this modification works- there is not a lot of evidence that it does- maybe our desert Southwest is receiving less than its natural share off monsoon moisture. Rain that is forced to come down by artificial means- weather modification -means someone else doesn't receive their natural amount of moisture.

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