Link Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 Supposedly it goes back to Jan 1983 but I'm mostly interested in the late 90s and it confirms what I remember how cloudy and 'awful' it was back then but now I miss it! IEM :: AFD from NWS PQR (iastate.edu) Here is for July 9th 1999 2:30am as an example to see how long it took to actually reach 'summer' back in the mid to late 90s! Even then it was fleeting and this was down here in Oregon the 'good' part of things. From what the text sounds like that spring/summer it seems WA really had it bad? 327 FXUS66 KPQR 090933 AFDPQR NORTHWEST OREGON AND SOUTHWEST WASHINGTON FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PORTLAND OR 230 AM PDT FRI JUL 9 1999 THERMALLY INDUCED TROUGH JUST OFFSHORE OF FORECAST AREA COAST THIS MORNING. AS UPPER RIDGE SHIFTS E TODAY IN ADVANCE OF APPROACHING OFFSHORE TROUGH MODELS BEGIN TO SHIFT SURFACE TROUGH INLAND TODAY. AS THE MARINE PUSH APPEARS INITIALLY WEAK TODAY...EXPECT INLAND TEMPS TO STILL BE QUITE WARM. MARINE PUSH A LITTLE STRONGER OVERNIGHT INTO SAT MORNING...BUT ALREADY MODELS AGREE IN BEGINNING TO TURN FLOW OFFSHORE OVER SOUTHERN PARTS OF FORECAST AREA SAT AFTERNOON. OVERALL EXPECT MAINLY MINOR CHANGES TO PREVIOUS FORECAST. IN EXTENDED PERIOD...MODELS APPEAR TO BE POINTING TOWARDS A RELATIVELY FLAT FLOW WITH HIGH HEIGHTS AND MINOR WAVES...MEANING TEMPS IN THE N WILL PROBABLY STAY ON THE WARM SIDE...WITH HIGHER HEAT SUPPRESSED TO THE FAR S PART OF STATE. ELSON AST --- PDX 000 SLE 000 EUG 000 .PDX...NONE. what you want is the AFDPQR files for the actual discussions. Sometimes if a significant event happens you will see a NOWPDX file something along the lines like this:IEM :: NOW from NWS PDX (iastate.edu) June 24th 1999: 00 TTAA00 KPDX 250059 SHORT TERM FORECAST NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PORTLAND OR 558 PM PDT THU JUN 24 1999 ORZ004-005-009-011-WAZ019-023-039-040-250325- VANCOUVER AREA-NORTHERN WILLAMETTE VALLEY-CENTRAL WILLAMETTE VALLEY- WESTERN COLUMBIA RIVER GORGE WA-WESTERN COLUMBIA RIVER GORGE OR- WASHINGTON CASCADE FOOTHILLS- WEST SLOPES SOUTHERN WASHINGTON CASCADES AND PASSES- NORTHERN OREGON CASCADES- INCLUDING RIDGEFIELD...BATTLE GROUND...VANCOUVER...CAMAS... HILLSBORO...BEAVERTON...TUALATIN...PORTLAND...OREGON CITY...GRESHAM ...MCMINNVILLE...DALLAS...SALEM...WOODBURN...STEVENSON...CARSON... CORBETT...BONNEVILLE...HOOD RIVER...COUGAR...MT ST HELENS... GOVERNMENT CAMP...SANTIAM PASS...WILLAMETTE PASS 558 PM PDT THU JUN 24 1999 .NOW... SHOWERS WILL GRADUALLY DECREASE THROUGH 8 PM...WITH A CONTINUING CHANCE OF AN EVENING THUNDERSTORM AND SMALL HAIL. THE HEAVIEST SHOWERS ARE ON THE EAST HALF OF THE WILLAMETTE VALLEY AND THE WEST SLOPES OF THE CASCADES. A PARTICULARLY HEAVY SHOWER WILL MOVE SLOWLY EAST ACROSS SOUTHERN MULTNOMAH AND NORTHERN CLACKAMAS COUNTIES THROUGH THE MILWAUKIE...SUNNYSIDE...HAPPY VALLEY...AND POWELLHURST AREAS TOWARD BORING AND GRESHAM THROUGH 7 PM. SOME OF THE SHOWERS MAY CAUSE LOCAL HEAVY RUNOFF OF STORM DRAINS. $$ TOLLESON Here's earlier in da month!IEM :: AFD from NWS PQR (iastate.edu) July 3rd 1999: 000 TTAA00 KPDX 030945 NORTHWEST OREGON AND SOUTHWEST WASHINGTON FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PORTLAND OR 300 AM PDT SAT JUL 3 1999 UPPER LOW NEAR THE NORTHERN WASHINGTON BORDER WITH ONE VORTICITY MAX TO THE EAST AND A SECOND APPROACHING 130 W. VORTICITY MAX HEADED FOR THE SOUTH OREGON COAST AND THIS NOW NOT EXPECTED TO FORM NEW UPPER LOW AS PREVIOUS MODEL RUNS. STILL COOLER AIR ALOFT FOR SMALL THREAT OF THUNDERSTORMS. EXPECT WRAP AROUND MOISTURE THROUGH BRITISH COLUMBIA TO STAY NORTH OF FORECAST AREA. VORTICITY MAX SHOWN MOVING THROUGH AREA FASTER BY MODELS AS THE EVENT APPROACHES AND HAVE LOWERED SUNDAY POPS SOME THROUGH WEAK TO NO RIDGING FOLLOWING PASSAGE. MRF BRINGS A SHORTWAVE INTO WESTERN OREGON ON WEDNESDAY AND THIS CONSISTENT WITH CURRENT EXTENDED FORECASTS AND WILL MAKE LITTLE CHANGES. STARMER. AST 774 PDX 663 SLE 653 EUG 642 .PDX...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FOR ROUGH COLUMBIA RIVER BAR. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 This is pretty cool... it would be interesting look up the AFDs from our big events over the last 30 years and big events in other parts of the country. 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 Pretty fun to go back and scroll through the late January/early February 1989 discos and see how clueless we were back then. Jesse might hate you, but this was a good find! 3 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 19 hours ago, Link said: Supposedly it goes back to Jan 1983 but I'm mostly interested in the late 90s and it confirms what I remember how cloudy and 'awful' it was back then but now I miss it! IEM :: AFD from NWS PQR (iastate.edu) Here is for July 9th 1999 2:30am as an example to see how long it took to actually reach 'summer' back in the mid to late 90s! Even then it was fleeting and this was down here in Oregon the 'good' part of things. From what the text sounds like that spring/summer it seems WA really had it bad? 327 FXUS66 KPQR 090933 AFDPQR NORTHWEST OREGON AND SOUTHWEST WASHINGTON FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PORTLAND OR 230 AM PDT FRI JUL 9 1999 THERMALLY INDUCED TROUGH JUST OFFSHORE OF FORECAST AREA COAST THIS MORNING. AS UPPER RIDGE SHIFTS E TODAY IN ADVANCE OF APPROACHING OFFSHORE TROUGH MODELS BEGIN TO SHIFT SURFACE TROUGH INLAND TODAY. AS THE MARINE PUSH APPEARS INITIALLY WEAK TODAY...EXPECT INLAND TEMPS TO STILL BE QUITE WARM. MARINE PUSH A LITTLE STRONGER OVERNIGHT INTO SAT MORNING...BUT ALREADY MODELS AGREE IN BEGINNING TO TURN FLOW OFFSHORE OVER SOUTHERN PARTS OF FORECAST AREA SAT AFTERNOON. OVERALL EXPECT MAINLY MINOR CHANGES TO PREVIOUS FORECAST. IN EXTENDED PERIOD...MODELS APPEAR TO BE POINTING TOWARDS A RELATIVELY FLAT FLOW WITH HIGH HEIGHTS AND MINOR WAVES...MEANING TEMPS IN THE N WILL PROBABLY STAY ON THE WARM SIDE...WITH HIGHER HEAT SUPPRESSED TO THE FAR S PART OF STATE. ELSON AST --- PDX 000 SLE 000 EUG 000 .PDX...NONE. what you want is the AFDPQR files for the actual discussions. Sometimes if a significant event happens you will see a NOWPDX file something along the lines like this:IEM :: NOW from NWS PDX (iastate.edu) June 24th 1999: 00 TTAA00 KPDX 250059 SHORT TERM FORECAST NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PORTLAND OR 558 PM PDT THU JUN 24 1999 ORZ004-005-009-011-WAZ019-023-039-040-250325- VANCOUVER AREA-NORTHERN WILLAMETTE VALLEY-CENTRAL WILLAMETTE VALLEY- WESTERN COLUMBIA RIVER GORGE WA-WESTERN COLUMBIA RIVER GORGE OR- WASHINGTON CASCADE FOOTHILLS- WEST SLOPES SOUTHERN WASHINGTON CASCADES AND PASSES- NORTHERN OREGON CASCADES- INCLUDING RIDGEFIELD...BATTLE GROUND...VANCOUVER...CAMAS... HILLSBORO...BEAVERTON...TUALATIN...PORTLAND...OREGON CITY...GRESHAM ...MCMINNVILLE...DALLAS...SALEM...WOODBURN...STEVENSON...CARSON... CORBETT...BONNEVILLE...HOOD RIVER...COUGAR...MT ST HELENS... GOVERNMENT CAMP...SANTIAM PASS...WILLAMETTE PASS 558 PM PDT THU JUN 24 1999 .NOW... SHOWERS WILL GRADUALLY DECREASE THROUGH 8 PM...WITH A CONTINUING CHANCE OF AN EVENING THUNDERSTORM AND SMALL HAIL. THE HEAVIEST SHOWERS ARE ON THE EAST HALF OF THE WILLAMETTE VALLEY AND THE WEST SLOPES OF THE CASCADES. A PARTICULARLY HEAVY SHOWER WILL MOVE SLOWLY EAST ACROSS SOUTHERN MULTNOMAH AND NORTHERN CLACKAMAS COUNTIES THROUGH THE MILWAUKIE...SUNNYSIDE...HAPPY VALLEY...AND POWELLHURST AREAS TOWARD BORING AND GRESHAM THROUGH 7 PM. SOME OF THE SHOWERS MAY CAUSE LOCAL HEAVY RUNOFF OF STORM DRAINS. $$ TOLLESON Here's earlier in da month!IEM :: AFD from NWS PQR (iastate.edu) July 3rd 1999: 000 TTAA00 KPDX 030945 NORTHWEST OREGON AND SOUTHWEST WASHINGTON FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PORTLAND OR 300 AM PDT SAT JUL 3 1999 UPPER LOW NEAR THE NORTHERN WASHINGTON BORDER WITH ONE VORTICITY MAX TO THE EAST AND A SECOND APPROACHING 130 W. VORTICITY MAX HEADED FOR THE SOUTH OREGON COAST AND THIS NOW NOT EXPECTED TO FORM NEW UPPER LOW AS PREVIOUS MODEL RUNS. STILL COOLER AIR ALOFT FOR SMALL THREAT OF THUNDERSTORMS. EXPECT WRAP AROUND MOISTURE THROUGH BRITISH COLUMBIA TO STAY NORTH OF FORECAST AREA. VORTICITY MAX SHOWN MOVING THROUGH AREA FASTER BY MODELS AS THE EVENT APPROACHES AND HAVE LOWERED SUNDAY POPS SOME THROUGH WEAK TO NO RIDGING FOLLOWING PASSAGE. MRF BRINGS A SHORTWAVE INTO WESTERN OREGON ON WEDNESDAY AND THIS CONSISTENT WITH CURRENT EXTENDED FORECASTS AND WILL MAKE LITTLE CHANGES. STARMER. AST 774 PDX 663 SLE 653 EUG 642 .PDX...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FOR ROUGH COLUMBIA RIVER BAR. This is really cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Hole Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 The IEM website is an absolute gem with all sorts of information. This is one of the many great things you can find on there. 1 Quote Winter 23-24: Total Snow (3.2") Total Ice (0.2") Coldest Low: 1F Coldest High: 5F Snow Events: 0.1" Jan 5th, 0.2" Jan 9th, 1.6" Jan 14, 0.2" (ice) Jan 22, 1.3" Feb 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 Thank you Link! Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 Tough luck!! ORZ004-181240- WILLAMETTE VALLEY 940 PM PST WED FEB 17 1993 TONIGHT...INCREASING OR THICKENING CLOUDS. CHANCE OF LIGHT SNOW SOUTH LATE. LOWS IN MID 20S. NORTH TO NORTHEAST WIND 10 TO 20 MPH LOCALLY GUSTING TO NEAR 35 MPH NORTH. .THURSDAY...AREAS OF LIGHT SNOW SOUTH AND CHANCE LITTLE SNOW NORTH LATE. HIGHS IN THE LOWER 40S. NORTH WIND TO 25 MPH. .THURSDAY NIGHT...LIGHT RAIN SOUTH MIXED WITH SNOW..CHANCE LIGHT SNOW NORTH. LOWS CLOSE TO 30. .FRIDAY...RAIN AT TIMES..LOCALLY AS SNOW NORTH IN THE MORNING. HIGHS IN THE 40S. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link Posted June 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 8:01 PM, BLI snowman said: Tough luck!! ORZ004-181240- WILLAMETTE VALLEY 940 PM PST WED FEB 17 1993 TONIGHT...INCREASING OR THICKENING CLOUDS. CHANCE OF LIGHT SNOW SOUTH LATE. LOWS IN MID 20S. NORTH TO NORTHEAST WIND 10 TO 20 MPH LOCALLY GUSTING TO NEAR 35 MPH NORTH. .THURSDAY...AREAS OF LIGHT SNOW SOUTH AND CHANCE LITTLE SNOW NORTH LATE. HIGHS IN THE LOWER 40S. NORTH WIND TO 25 MPH. .THURSDAY NIGHT...LIGHT RAIN SOUTH MIXED WITH SNOW..CHANCE LIGHT SNOW NORTH. LOWS CLOSE TO 30. .FRIDAY...RAIN AT TIMES..LOCALLY AS SNOW NORTH IN THE MORNING. HIGHS IN THE 40S. Should I get the snow shovel + fire arrows and cold elixers to resist the cold ready? Another trick is to equip a weapon with a fire element such as a flame spear (more common) and it will keep up warm for most cold climates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link Posted June 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 On 5/3/2021 at 6:29 AM, TT-SEA said: This is pretty cool... it would be interesting look up the AFDs from our big events over the last 30 years and big events in other parts of the country. You can actually do that. You can get state discussions too. IEM :: SWS from NWS PQR (iastate.edu) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link Posted June 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 8:01 PM, BLI snowman said: Tough luck!! ORZ004-181240- WILLAMETTE VALLEY 940 PM PST WED FEB 17 1993 TONIGHT...INCREASING OR THICKENING CLOUDS. CHANCE OF LIGHT SNOW SOUTH LATE. LOWS IN MID 20S. NORTH TO NORTHEAST WIND 10 TO 20 MPH LOCALLY GUSTING TO NEAR 35 MPH NORTH. .THURSDAY...AREAS OF LIGHT SNOW SOUTH AND CHANCE LITTLE SNOW NORTH LATE. HIGHS IN THE LOWER 40S. NORTH WIND TO 25 MPH. .THURSDAY NIGHT...LIGHT RAIN SOUTH MIXED WITH SNOW..CHANCE LIGHT SNOW NORTH. LOWS CLOSE TO 30. .FRIDAY...RAIN AT TIMES..LOCALLY AS SNOW NORTH IN THE MORNING. HIGHS IN THE 40S. How did you post that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 On 6/4/2021 at 12:06 AM, Link said: How did you post that? Good old fashioned copy and paste! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link Posted June 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2021 On 6/8/2021 at 8:23 AM, BLI snowman said: Good old fashioned copy and paste! I was actually serious when asking that though I know it's hard for you to believe it for some odd reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 6 hours ago, Link said: I was actually serious when asking that though I know it's hard for you to believe it for some odd reason. Yep, so was I I didn't have to do anything special with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link Posted June 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 13 hours ago, BLI snowman said: Yep, so was I I didn't have to do anything special with it. When I do it here is how it comes out. Oh it works now! I wonder why it wasn't working before? TTAA00 KPDX 110537 OREGON STATE WEATHER SUMMARY NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PORTLAND OR 1030 PM PDT MON JUN 10 1996 A WEAK WEATHER DISTURBANCE IS MOVING ACROSS THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF OREGON TONIGHT. THE MAIN RESULT WILL BE AN INCREASE IN MARINE AIR ALONG THE COAST AND IN THE NORTHERN WILLAMETTE VALLEY. THERE IS A SLIGHT CHANCE OF DRIZZLE OR A FEW SPRINKLES MAINLY AT THE COAST BEFORE THE SUN BREAKS THROUGH TUESDAY MORNING. HIGH TEMPERATURES WERE IN THE 60S ALONG THE COAST WITH MID 70S IN THE WILLAMETTE VALLEY WHILE MEDFORD REACHED 81 DEGREES. EAST OF THE MOUNTAINS MOST TEMPERATURES WERE IN THE 70S WITH THE DALLES AT 82 DEGREES. WINDS WERE GUSTY AT THE COAST AND IN THE GORGE EARLIER TODAY. AT 10 PM CLOUDS WERE MOVING INTO NORTHWESTERN OREGON. TEMPERATURES ALONG THE COAST WERE MOSTLY IN THE 50S AND IN THE WILLAMETTE VALLEY IN THE MID 50S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link Posted June 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 13 hours ago, BLI snowman said: Yep, so was I I didn't have to do anything special with it. What was the date of the June thunderstorm we had that broke apart as it came across the north valley? Silver Falls was briefly under a tornado warning then and Salem had some floods briefly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 15 hours ago, Link said: What was the date of the June thunderstorm we had that broke apart as it came across the north valley? Silver Falls was briefly under a tornado warning then and Salem had some floods briefly. June 4, 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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