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51 minutes ago, Jesse said:

It still feels surreal to think about how hot many places got the last few days. Even the Olympic coast. I want to wake up from this nightmare now.

Driving to work I was disappointed to see all the native tree damage. I'll take some pics on way home today. The fact it happend in June is really going to hurt the growth on the fir trees and there new growth. The ground temperature yesterday in front of my house was 140 degrees.  I love trees and it broke my heart to see what happened to them.

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24 minutes ago, 1000'NorthBend said:

Looks exactly like ours.. not good. Salmonberry leaves exposed to sun turned blackish and shriveled, berry season for them is probably done. Huckleberries are incredible in size right now, but I expect a stunted berry season. Ferns didn’t look great either. Basically all native plants are not happy.

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There are definitely signs of stress now... but its not quite as bad as you say.   Here is a live pic of ferns and salmonberries in full sun by our house... not looking that bad.   Yet.  

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10 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

It was if anything a conservative estimate. As time goes on, the amount of warming, and the disruption caused by it, will increase.

Climate modeling is in general much more difficult than weather modeling, because the former does not have the advantage of the feedback loop the latter does. The only real thing that can be said with any degree of confidence is that bad things will happen, and the global average temperature will increase. Exactly how that happens, nobody really knows.

We don't even know for sure global average temp will continue to rise.  People totally forget about natural cycles.  We don't really know anything for sure.  We will soon see how big a deal the solar grand minimum is going to be also.

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Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 42

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 

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Just now, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Driving to work I was disappointed to see all the native tree damage. I'll take some pics on way home today. The fact it happend in June is really going to hurt the growth on the fir trees and there new growth. The ground temperature yesterday in front of my house was 140 degrees.  I love trees and it broke my heart to see what happened to them.

It's been hard on you guys. There's not much to destroy over here. 

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Just now, snow_wizard said:

We don't even know for sure global average temp will continue to rise.  People totally forget about natural cycles.  We don't really know anything for sure.  We will soon see how big a deal the solar grand minimum is going to be also.

We don’t know if we will die the next day, therefore planning for retirement is a complete waste.

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8 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Driving to work I was disappointed to see all the native tree damage. I'll take some pics on way home today. The fact it happend in June is really going to hurt the growth on the fir trees and there new growth. The ground temperature yesterday in front of my house was 140 degrees.  I love trees and it broke my heart to see what happened to them.

Just not seeing any of that here.  Really strange.  I did have a few leaves get burned on my blueberry plants, but no damage to rhodies or trees.  As I said earlier the vegetation periodically being exposed to the harsh dryness of the east wind here might be the reason it didn't happen here.

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 42

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 

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1 minute ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

We don’t know if we will die the next day, therefore planning for retirement is a complete waste.

Just to put a little perspective on the climate change alarmists is the fact the climate has only been as good as it is now 5% of the time over the last million years according to some scientific research I've read.  Pretty much nowhere to go but down from here.  Climate change is a constant and nothing new at all.  It drives me nuts hearing people say this is some alarming new thing.

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Total Snowfall = 0.0"

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Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 42

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 

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1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

Just to put a little perspective on the climate change alarmists is the fact the climate has only been as good as it is now 5% of the time over the last million years according to some scientific research I've read.  Pretty much nowhere to go but down from here.  Climate change is a constant and nothing new at all.  It drives me nuts hearing people say this is some alarming new thing.

Your house hasn’t even existed for 100 years (and it probably won’t exist in another 100), therefore if I can make money burning it down, I should be allowed to do so.

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81 with a dewpoint of 65 here... feels tropical and very warm out there.   

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2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

81 with a dewpoint of 65 here... feels tropical and very warm out there.   

70 with a DP of 63 here. It does feel a bit humid. 

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29 minutes ago, Farmboy said:

Yikes.  I don't believe it's as bad as you think.  After a series of fall storms and when we're staring down the barrel of a November cold and snow event you will have a change of heart.

Not gonna happen down here so that's a fruitless hope.

Springfield, Oregon cold season 20-21 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 38F (Nov 21)
  • Coldest low: 23F (Oct 26)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 50¬†(Most recent: Apr 14, 2021)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 3¬†(Most recent: Dec 24, 2020)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7"

 

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5 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

81 with a dewpoint of 65 here... feels tropical and very warm out there.   

That ain’t tropical, brother.

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What's this? Another 102-103 at KLMT today? 

Triple digits three days in a row, I need to know if that's ever happened in Klamath Falls.

Weather Data for Klamath Falls, OR
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Snowfall (with % of seasonal average)

2010-2011 - 60.70" (168%)
2011-2012 - 49.00" (136%)
2012-2013 - 25.10" (70%)
2013-2014 - 9.05" (25%)
2014-2015 - 2.90" (8%)
2015-2016 - 54.45" (151%)
2016-2017 - 63.00" (175%)
2017-2018 - 18.10" (50%)
2018-2019 - 52.30" (145%)
2019-2020 - 37.00" (103%)
2020-2021 - 19.00" (53%)
 
2021 Thunderstorms (9)
05/14, 06/22, 06/24, 07/27, 07/29
07/31, 08/01, 08/05, 08/13, 
 
Biggest Snowstorm - 18.4" (Jan 3-4 2017 - 26 hours)
Top 5 Daily Snows: 12.40" (01/03/2017), 8.20" (11/23/2010), 7.50" (12/13/2015), 6.60" (02/07/2017), 6.20" (03/10/2019)
Honorable Mention: 6.00" (03/20/2012), 6.00" (02/28/2012), 6.00" (01/16/2020), 5.70" (12/14/2016), 5.50" (01/18/2012)
Max Depths: 21.00" (01/07/2017), 18.00" (12/24/2015), 13.00" (01/16/2020), 11.00" (11/23/2010), 9.50" (02/27/2019), 9.00" (02/28/2012)
 
T'storm Days: 10 (2020), 14 (2019), 16 (2018), 12 (2017), 13 (2016), 20 (2015), 21 (2014), 16 (2013), 2 (2012), 12 (2011)
1980-2015 Avg = 12
Severe T'storms: 6 (08/05/2020), (08/10/2019), (08/08/2017), (07/24/2017), (01/19/2016), (08/05/2012) 
"Almost" Severe: 2 (08/10/2017), (05/04/2016)
Vicinity Severe T'storms (close enough to hear, with official severe reports)
(06/26/2017), (08/05/2016), (07/09/2015), (07/05/2015), (06/09/2015), (08/05/2014), (08/04/2014), (08/22/2013), (08/12/2013), (09/12/2011), (09/04/2011)

 

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Just now, Phil said:

That ain’t tropical, brother.

Yeah, 81 with a DP of 81 more like. :P

Weather Data for Klamath Falls, OR
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Snowfall (with % of seasonal average)

2010-2011 - 60.70" (168%)
2011-2012 - 49.00" (136%)
2012-2013 - 25.10" (70%)
2013-2014 - 9.05" (25%)
2014-2015 - 2.90" (8%)
2015-2016 - 54.45" (151%)
2016-2017 - 63.00" (175%)
2017-2018 - 18.10" (50%)
2018-2019 - 52.30" (145%)
2019-2020 - 37.00" (103%)
2020-2021 - 19.00" (53%)
 
2021 Thunderstorms (9)
05/14, 06/22, 06/24, 07/27, 07/29
07/31, 08/01, 08/05, 08/13, 
 
Biggest Snowstorm - 18.4" (Jan 3-4 2017 - 26 hours)
Top 5 Daily Snows: 12.40" (01/03/2017), 8.20" (11/23/2010), 7.50" (12/13/2015), 6.60" (02/07/2017), 6.20" (03/10/2019)
Honorable Mention: 6.00" (03/20/2012), 6.00" (02/28/2012), 6.00" (01/16/2020), 5.70" (12/14/2016), 5.50" (01/18/2012)
Max Depths: 21.00" (01/07/2017), 18.00" (12/24/2015), 13.00" (01/16/2020), 11.00" (11/23/2010), 9.50" (02/27/2019), 9.00" (02/28/2012)
 
T'storm Days: 10 (2020), 14 (2019), 16 (2018), 12 (2017), 13 (2016), 20 (2015), 21 (2014), 16 (2013), 2 (2012), 12 (2011)
1980-2015 Avg = 12
Severe T'storms: 6 (08/05/2020), (08/10/2019), (08/08/2017), (07/24/2017), (01/19/2016), (08/05/2012) 
"Almost" Severe: 2 (08/10/2017), (05/04/2016)
Vicinity Severe T'storms (close enough to hear, with official severe reports)
(06/26/2017), (08/05/2016), (07/09/2015), (07/05/2015), (06/09/2015), (08/05/2014), (08/04/2014), (08/22/2013), (08/12/2013), (09/12/2011), (09/04/2011)

 

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3 minutes ago, Timmy_Supercell said:

What's this? Another 102-103 at KLMT today? 

Triple digits three days in a row, I need to know if that's ever happened in Klamath Falls.

It happened in Springfield so I'm going to assume that it's pretty rare.

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Springfield, Oregon cold season 20-21 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 38F (Nov 21)
  • Coldest low: 23F (Oct 26)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 50¬†(Most recent: Apr 14, 2021)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 3¬†(Most recent: Dec 24, 2020)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7"

 

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31 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

The new GFS is simply horrible in these situations.  It was projected that SEA would be at 81 at this time and it's only 70.  Yikes!

Definitely a high bust scenario any time you have a thermal trough to the east involved.

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1 minute ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

It happened in Springfield so I'm going to assume that it's pretty rare.

Your all time is higher than mine (I think?) so it wouldn't be unimaginable if your place did that.

Weather Data for Klamath Falls, OR
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Snowfall (with % of seasonal average)

2010-2011 - 60.70" (168%)
2011-2012 - 49.00" (136%)
2012-2013 - 25.10" (70%)
2013-2014 - 9.05" (25%)
2014-2015 - 2.90" (8%)
2015-2016 - 54.45" (151%)
2016-2017 - 63.00" (175%)
2017-2018 - 18.10" (50%)
2018-2019 - 52.30" (145%)
2019-2020 - 37.00" (103%)
2020-2021 - 19.00" (53%)
 
2021 Thunderstorms (9)
05/14, 06/22, 06/24, 07/27, 07/29
07/31, 08/01, 08/05, 08/13, 
 
Biggest Snowstorm - 18.4" (Jan 3-4 2017 - 26 hours)
Top 5 Daily Snows: 12.40" (01/03/2017), 8.20" (11/23/2010), 7.50" (12/13/2015), 6.60" (02/07/2017), 6.20" (03/10/2019)
Honorable Mention: 6.00" (03/20/2012), 6.00" (02/28/2012), 6.00" (01/16/2020), 5.70" (12/14/2016), 5.50" (01/18/2012)
Max Depths: 21.00" (01/07/2017), 18.00" (12/24/2015), 13.00" (01/16/2020), 11.00" (11/23/2010), 9.50" (02/27/2019), 9.00" (02/28/2012)
 
T'storm Days: 10 (2020), 14 (2019), 16 (2018), 12 (2017), 13 (2016), 20 (2015), 21 (2014), 16 (2013), 2 (2012), 12 (2011)
1980-2015 Avg = 12
Severe T'storms: 6 (08/05/2020), (08/10/2019), (08/08/2017), (07/24/2017), (01/19/2016), (08/05/2012) 
"Almost" Severe: 2 (08/10/2017), (05/04/2016)
Vicinity Severe T'storms (close enough to hear, with official severe reports)
(06/26/2017), (08/05/2016), (07/09/2015), (07/05/2015), (06/09/2015), (08/05/2014), (08/04/2014), (08/22/2013), (08/12/2013), (09/12/2011), (09/04/2011)

 

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28 minutes ago, joelgombiner said:

Exactly. I've always been struck by the observation that climate models cannot even agree on the sign (does it get wetter or drier) of precipitation change for most regions on earth under climate change. 

Yet if anything that is viewed as damaging occurs (drought develops, flood happens, heatwave, coldwave, hurricane, tornadoes, etc), the default is to automatically point the finger at climate change.

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9 minutes ago, Phil said:

That ain’t tropical, brother.

Feels like it to me... and probably many people around here.   Regardless of what you experience there.

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16 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

There are definitely signs of stress now... but its not quite as bad as you say.   Here is a live pic of ferns and salmonberries in full sun by our house... not looking that bad.   Yet.  

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The condition of the¬†plants in my yard are exactly as ‚Äúbad‚ÄĚ as I say. On Friday, these salmonberry plants¬†were in great shape and the birds¬†and my family were eating berries off them frequently. Yesterday evening, they looked in bad shape. This applied to most of my sun-exposed salmonberry plants.¬†

I didn‚Äôt call you out on your deceitful ‚Äúroadside grass is still not totally brown‚ÄĚ photo of the most shadowed¬†section of road down to town. Why you insist on challenging me on my imby observations is beyond me.¬†

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1 minute ago, Front Ranger said:

Yet if anything that is viewed as damaging occurs (drought develops, flood happens, heatwave, coldwave, hurricane, tornadoes, etc), the default is to automatically point the finger at climate change.

I'm tired of that song and dance. Continental climates have  extremes of heat, cold, and precipitation.

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4 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Yet if anything that is viewed as damaging occurs (drought develops, flood happens, heatwave, coldwave, hurricane, tornadoes, etc), the default is to automatically point the finger at climate change.

The politically-inclined will play politics with things. Surprise, surprise.

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7 minutes ago, 1000'NorthBend said:

The condition of the¬†plants in my yard are exactly as ‚Äúbad‚ÄĚ as I say. On Friday, these salmonberry plants¬†were in great shape and the birds¬†and my family were eating berries off them frequently. Yesterday evening, they looked in bad shape. This applied to most of my sun-exposed salmonberry plants.¬†

I didn‚Äôt call you out on your deceitful ‚Äúroadside grass is still not totally brown‚ÄĚ photo of the most shadowed¬†section of road down to town. Why you insist on challenging me on my imby observations is beyond me.¬†

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That section of the road was in the shade at 7 p.m. but its definitely in the hot sun during the middle of the day.    

And I was talking about the general area... I am not saying you are incorrect about your yard.   

I will also mention that I have noticed some sunburn on some of the cedar trees around here which is concerning.   I am hoping that its just localized damage and the trees will recover.    It was pure misery the last couple days and made worse knowing the trees were sitting in that scorching sun and there was no way to help them.   

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4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

That section of the road was in the shade at 7 p.m. but its definitely in the hot sun during the middle of the day.    

And I was talking about the general area... I am not saying you are incorrect about your yard.   

I will also mention that I have noticed some sunburn on some of the cedar trees around here which is concerning.   I am hoping that its just localized damage and the trees will recover.    It was pure misery the last couple days and made worse knowing the trees were sitting in that scorching sun and there was no way to help them.   

Now you know...

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Springfield, Oregon cold season 20-21 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 38F (Nov 21)
  • Coldest low: 23F (Oct 26)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 50¬†(Most recent: Apr 14, 2021)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 3¬†(Most recent: Dec 24, 2020)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7"

 

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11 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Yet if anything that is viewed as damaging occurs (drought develops, flood happens, heatwave, coldwave, hurricane, tornadoes, etc), the default is to automatically point the finger at climate change.

I guess I see it differently. 

If a historically unprecedented extreme event occurs in an unprecedented, rapidly changing climate that we don't understand, then I think it's logical to point the finger at climate change, though with the understanding that the event *could* have occurred without climate change.  

 

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2 minutes ago, joelgombiner said:

I guess I see it differently. 

If a historically unprecedented extreme event occurs in an unprecedented, rapidly changing climate that we don't understand, then I think it's logical to point the finger at climate change, though with the understanding that the event *could* have occurred without climate change.  

Sure, but the finger is often pointed at events that are not unprecedented.

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3 minutes ago, joelgombiner said:

I guess I see it differently. 

If a historically unprecedented extreme event occurs in an unprecedented, rapidly changing climate that we don't understand, then I think it's logical to point the finger at climate change, though with the understanding that the event *could* have occurred without climate change.  

 

As I mentioned earlier...can you find a period in the past the climate wasn't changing?  It's a constant process.

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 42

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 

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1 minute ago, Front Ranger said:

Sure, but the finger is often pointed at events that are not unprecedented.

True, climate change attribution can be overdone in the media. But every single weather event now occurs in a changed climate, so there is no weather pattern that was not affected by climate change. 

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22 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Definitely a high bust scenario any time you have a thermal trough to the east involved.

So far even the ECMWF is way high.  I was pretty skeptical when they extended the excessive heat warning yesterday.  It kind of sent the wrong message.

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 42

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 

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1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

As I mentioned earlier...can you find a period in the past the climate wasn't changing?  It's a constant process.

The rate of CO2 and temperature rise is faster than at any point in earth history. The current rate of temperature rise is about 10 times faster than deglacial events, D-O events, the end-Cretaceous event, the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, etc... 

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6 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

As I mentioned earlier...can you find a period in the past the climate wasn't changing?  It's a constant process.

Live down here and face the dangers of imminent destruction and you would see.

If I didn't know any better it feels like you're rooting for Oregon to become a hellscape.

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Springfield, Oregon cold season 20-21 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 38F (Nov 21)
  • Coldest low: 23F (Oct 26)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 50¬†(Most recent: Apr 14, 2021)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 3¬†(Most recent: Dec 24, 2020)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7"

 

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2 minutes ago, joelgombiner said:

The rate of CO2 and temperature rise is faster than at any point in earth history. The current rate of temperature rise is about 10 times faster than deglacial events, D-O events, the end-Cretaceous event, the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, etc... 

Scientists say there was a time CO2 levels were 1000 times what they are now and yet the Earth was only 10 degrees warmer than present.  If true the CO2 increase now is a drop in the proverbial bucket.  Also...are you aware the sea level rose 200 feet after the ice age before man had any possible effect on climate.  Now they are gnashing their teeth over a 1 inch (if that) rise over the last 100 years.

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 42

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 

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2 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Live down here and face the dangers of imminent destruction and you would see.

If I didn't know any better it feels like you're rooting for Oregon to become a hellscape.

For all you know over the next 10 years every change you've seen will be reversed.  A lot of this cyclical.

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 42

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 

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Just now, snow_wizard said:

Scientists say there was a time CO2 levels were 1000 times what they are now and yet the Earth was only 10 degrees warmer than present.  If true the CO2 increase now is a drop in the proverbial bucket.  Also...are you aware the sea level rose 200 feet after the ice age before man had any possible effect on climate.  Now they are gnashing their teeth over a 1 inch (if that) rise over the last 100 years.

I bet Oregon was a horrible place to live then, too. You'd probly love that extra warmth to eliminate your Arctic air chances year by year.

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Springfield, Oregon cold season 20-21 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 38F (Nov 21)
  • Coldest low: 23F (Oct 26)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 50¬†(Most recent: Apr 14, 2021)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 3¬†(Most recent: Dec 24, 2020)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7"

 

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Just now, snow_wizard said:

For all you know over the next 10 years every change you've seen will be reversed.  A lot of this cyclical.

It's a cycle of destruction and sadness. It will not reverse. Once your place is in imminent fire danger and you have fewer Arctic events then you'll see.

Springfield, Oregon cold season 20-21 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 38F (Nov 21)
  • Coldest low: 23F (Oct 26)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 50¬†(Most recent: Apr 14, 2021)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 3¬†(Most recent: Dec 24, 2020)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7"

 

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2 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

94¬įF on Sumas Mountain (3400'), 98¬įF at Lyman Hill (4300'). Upper levels continue to really bake.

Yeah...the big 850 drop is late today and tonight.  This is probably the root of the horrible GFS performance for SEA today.  Terrible handling of the inversion.

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Total Snowfall = 0.0"

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Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 42

Lows 32 or below = 0

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4 minutes ago, joelgombiner said:

True, climate change attribution can be overdone in the media. But every single weather event now occurs in a changed climate, so there is no weather pattern that was not affected by climate change. 

I've had an unusually comfortable stretch of summer weather here lately. Thanks, climate change!

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1 minute ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

I bet Oregon was a horrible place to live then, too. You'd probly love that extra warmth to eliminate your Arctic air chances year by year.

I love cold as you know, and I'm still feeling good about our prospects over the next year.  We will see soon enough.

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 42

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 

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3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

For all you know over the next 10 years every change you've seen will be reversed.  A lot of this cyclical.

It's a cycle of destruction and sadness. It will not reverse. Once your place is in imminent fire danger and you have fewer Arctic events then you'll see. Show me another stretch where we went 4-straight winters without a sub-freezing high without having to go back to the MWP.

Springfield, Oregon cold season 20-21 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 38F (Nov 21)
  • Coldest low: 23F (Oct 26)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 50¬†(Most recent: Apr 14, 2021)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 3¬†(Most recent: Dec 24, 2020)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7"

 

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1 minute ago, Front Ranger said:

I've had an unusually comfortable stretch of summer weather here lately. Thanks, climate change!

All of the heat that should be down there got stuffed into a tight little package and sent our way.  Really an amazing thing.

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 42

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 

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10 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

So far even the ECMWF is way high.  I was pretty skeptical when they extended the excessive heat warning yesterday.  It kind of sent the wrong message.

SEA running a mere -26 on yesterday.

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Just now, TigerWoodsLibido said:

It's a cycle of destruction and sadness. It will not reverse. Once your place is in imminent fire danger and you have fewer Arctic events then you'll see. Show me another stretch where we went 4-straight winters without a sub-freezing high without having to go back to the MWP.

You might want to check 1937-38 through 1940-41.  That period was an epic torch overall.

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 42

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 

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1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

All of the heat that should be down there got stuffed into a tight little package and sent our way.  Really an amazing thing.

Get ready for more.

Springfield, Oregon cold season 20-21 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 38F (Nov 21)
  • Coldest low: 23F (Oct 26)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 50¬†(Most recent: Apr 14, 2021)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 3¬†(Most recent: Dec 24, 2020)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7"

 

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Just now, snow_wizard said:

Scientists say there was a time CO2 levels were 1000 times what they are now and yet the Earth was only 10 degrees warmer than present.  If true the CO2 increase now is a drop in the proverbial bucket.  Also...are you aware the sea level rose 200 feet after the ice age before man had any possible effect on climate.  Now they are gnashing their teeth over a 1 inch (if that) rise over the last 100 years.

I see what you're getting at, but your facts are a little off... 

CO2 levels were never 400,000 PPM (that would be a 40% CO2 atmosphere), and the greenhouse effect follows a saturating exponential function, so a smaller increase matters more for temperature at lower CO2 levels. 

But the main point is that the rate of climate change matters far more than the absolute value . 

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Just now, Front Ranger said:

SEA running a mere -26 on yesterday.

I think you meant +26.  I ended up with a +29.

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 42

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 

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1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

I love cold as you know, and I'm still feeling good about our prospects over the next year.  We will see soon enough.

Next year?   I thought we had a July 1954 incoming?   

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