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12 minutes ago, The Blob said:

The clouds have been increasing. The sun was out about an hour ago.

Same here... and based on the satellite loop the low clouds are easily spreading inland under the inversion.    Definitely going to be way cooler than guidance today.

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16 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Can't find any records from 1862 for this area but I'm going to assume it was underwhelming compared to areas further north.

While not as impressive as Fort Vancouver....the winter of 1862 was ridiculous everywhere. According to news accounts, Eugene hit -4 in late January and more or less had snowcover from December 29 until mid February,, with a brief thaw down there on the 23rd of January but then peaking at a 10" depth a week later. Huge losses to livestock throughout the valley.

1867-68 was a bit more impressive down there. Eugene reported -15 with an 18" snowpack in mid January.

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3 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Where did you go in the San Diego area?

We stayed towards downtown, the Marriott. It was sort of a quick trip, saw a lot of family on both sides, camped near Yosemite one night, went to the San Diego Zoo, etc...

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 65.58"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

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Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said:

We stayed towards downtown, the Marriott. It was sort of a quick trip, saw a lot of family on both sides, camped near Yosemite one night, went to the San Diego Zoo, etc...

Nice.  

I bet SoCal is a brown wasteland right now.

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1 minute ago, The Blob said:

When is it not? 

It can be pretty green after a wet winter and spring... but the last year has been unusually dry down there.  

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12Z GFS is insisting on a trough for the middle of next week... it will be interesting to see if the ECMWF caves this morning.

 

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6 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

It can be pretty green after a wet winter and spring... but the last year has been unusually dry down there.  

Yeah, it is very dry. I have been there in December and January when it has been raining and the mountains above LA are covered in snow. If the LA basin had clearer air, and you could actually see the mountains it would be quite beautiful. The Central Valley was shockingly dry. I have been there in the summer before, and it is always dry and parched, but the landscape looks like it can hardly support grass during this drought. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 65.58"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

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7 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

12Z GFS is insisting on a trough for the middle of next week... it will be interesting to see if the ECMWF caves this morning.

 

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Still no rain down here with that, but cooler temps at least. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 65.58"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

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Low of 60 this morning…63 and cloudy currently. Nice to have some full cloud cover right now after so much sun recently. Will probably still hit 80 but I can live with that lol…70-85 is good.

Monthly rainfall-2.23”

Cold season rainfall-

Sub 40 highs-0

Sub 32 highs-0

Sub 32 lows-0

Snowfall-0.0”

Coldest High-63

Coldest Low-42

 

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Quite the battle between the 4CH and a GOA trough late next week per the 12Z GFS...

 

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3 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Quite the battle between the 4CH and a GOA trough late next week per the 12Z GFS...

 

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Very close to a good alignment for Cascade convection.

Also oddly notable the 4CH has actually centered over the 4C instead of floundering around over California or Nevada. Good trend for a normal July.

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 65.58"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

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Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said:

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Atleast rains actually showing up on the models even if it’s past day 10. 

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Monthly rainfall-2.23”

Cold season rainfall-

Sub 40 highs-0

Sub 32 highs-0

Sub 32 lows-0

Snowfall-0.0”

Coldest High-63

Coldest Low-42

 

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New design to the board this morning on PC.

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Springfield, Oregon cold season 20-21 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 38F (Nov 21)
  • Coldest low: 23F (Oct 26)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 50 (Most recent: Apr 14, 2021)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 3 (Most recent: Dec 24, 2020)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7"

 

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random question - how reliable are old temperature readings? Is there some generally agreed upon common knowledge that the thermometers of old (pre-1900s or really any time period where there was some advancement in effective temperature monitoring) were prone to under/over report temps? Like, how reliable are those readings from 1862??

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Really cool to see "America's Dad" go free. LOL 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 65.58"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

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1 hour ago, BLI snowman said:

The strength of the thermal low inland definitely seems to be aiding in our stronger than expected marine layer this morning.

Just goes to show how important onshore/offshore gradients are, regardless of 850s.

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9 minutes ago, RentonHillTC said:

random question - how reliable are old temperature readings? Is there some generally agreed upon common knowledge that the thermometers of old (pre-1900s or really any time period where there was some advancement in effective temperature monitoring) were prone to under/over report temps? Like, how reliable are those readings from 1862??

Well first of all, they only recorded observations 3-4 times a day. So the data set we have from back then is incomplete to some extent. You can probably reasonably add a couple degrees to most of the highs and subtract a couple degrees from many of the lows. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 65.58"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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Weather Data for Klamath Falls, OR
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Snowfall (with % of seasonal average)

2010-2011 - 60.70" (168%)
2011-2012 - 49.00" (136%)
2012-2013 - 25.10" (70%)
2013-2014 - 9.05" (25%)
2014-2015 - 2.90" (8%)
2015-2016 - 54.45" (151%)
2016-2017 - 63.00" (175%)
2017-2018 - 18.10" (50%)
2018-2019 - 52.30" (145%)
2019-2020 - 37.00" (103%)
2020-2021 - 19.00" (53%)
 
2021 Thunderstorms (9)
05/14, 06/22, 06/24, 07/27, 07/29
07/31, 08/01, 08/05, 08/13, 
 
Biggest Snowstorm - 18.4" (Jan 3-4 2017 - 26 hours)
Top 5 Daily Snows: 12.40" (01/03/2017), 8.20" (11/23/2010), 7.50" (12/13/2015), 6.60" (02/07/2017), 6.20" (03/10/2019)
Honorable Mention: 6.00" (03/20/2012), 6.00" (02/28/2012), 6.00" (01/16/2020), 5.70" (12/14/2016), 5.50" (01/18/2012)
Max Depths: 21.00" (01/07/2017), 18.00" (12/24/2015), 13.00" (01/16/2020), 11.00" (11/23/2010), 9.50" (02/27/2019), 9.00" (02/28/2012)
 
T'storm Days: 10 (2020), 14 (2019), 16 (2018), 12 (2017), 13 (2016), 20 (2015), 21 (2014), 16 (2013), 2 (2012), 12 (2011)
1980-2015 Avg = 12
Severe T'storms: 6 (08/05/2020), (08/10/2019), (08/08/2017), (07/24/2017), (01/19/2016), (08/05/2012) 
"Almost" Severe: 2 (08/10/2017), (05/04/2016)
Vicinity Severe T'storms (close enough to hear, with official severe reports)
(06/26/2017), (08/05/2016), (07/09/2015), (07/05/2015), (06/09/2015), (08/05/2014), (08/04/2014), (08/22/2013), (08/12/2013), (09/12/2011), (09/04/2011)

 

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For the record so no one claims otherwise... I am NOT calling for a July 2015 redux. I am calling for a warmer than average month though... So if that busts, feel free to call me on that. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 65.58"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Well first of all, they only recorded observations 3-4 times a day. So the data set we have from back then is incomplete to some extent. You can probably reasonably add a couple degrees to most of the highs and subtract a couple degrees from many of the lows. 

So we definitely had 120-122 in 1898!! 

Weather Data for Klamath Falls, OR
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Snowfall (with % of seasonal average)

2010-2011 - 60.70" (168%)
2011-2012 - 49.00" (136%)
2012-2013 - 25.10" (70%)
2013-2014 - 9.05" (25%)
2014-2015 - 2.90" (8%)
2015-2016 - 54.45" (151%)
2016-2017 - 63.00" (175%)
2017-2018 - 18.10" (50%)
2018-2019 - 52.30" (145%)
2019-2020 - 37.00" (103%)
2020-2021 - 19.00" (53%)
 
2021 Thunderstorms (9)
05/14, 06/22, 06/24, 07/27, 07/29
07/31, 08/01, 08/05, 08/13, 
 
Biggest Snowstorm - 18.4" (Jan 3-4 2017 - 26 hours)
Top 5 Daily Snows: 12.40" (01/03/2017), 8.20" (11/23/2010), 7.50" (12/13/2015), 6.60" (02/07/2017), 6.20" (03/10/2019)
Honorable Mention: 6.00" (03/20/2012), 6.00" (02/28/2012), 6.00" (01/16/2020), 5.70" (12/14/2016), 5.50" (01/18/2012)
Max Depths: 21.00" (01/07/2017), 18.00" (12/24/2015), 13.00" (01/16/2020), 11.00" (11/23/2010), 9.50" (02/27/2019), 9.00" (02/28/2012)
 
T'storm Days: 10 (2020), 14 (2019), 16 (2018), 12 (2017), 13 (2016), 20 (2015), 21 (2014), 16 (2013), 2 (2012), 12 (2011)
1980-2015 Avg = 12
Severe T'storms: 6 (08/05/2020), (08/10/2019), (08/08/2017), (07/24/2017), (01/19/2016), (08/05/2012) 
"Almost" Severe: 2 (08/10/2017), (05/04/2016)
Vicinity Severe T'storms (close enough to hear, with official severe reports)
(06/26/2017), (08/05/2016), (07/09/2015), (07/05/2015), (06/09/2015), (08/05/2014), (08/04/2014), (08/22/2013), (08/12/2013), (09/12/2011), (09/04/2011)

 

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Just now, Timmy_Supercell said:

The forum is different again. 🤪

Kudos to iFred for keeping us on our toes. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 65.58"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

For the record so no one claims otherwise... I am NOT calling for a July 2015 redux. I am calling for a warmer than average month though... So if that busts, feel free to call me on that. 

Makes sense. And I think I've had 2 normal Julys in the last 10 years, so pretty good odds of at least a +1 to +2 kind of July. A big no on a top 5 IMO.

Weather Data for Klamath Falls, OR
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Snowfall (with % of seasonal average)

2010-2011 - 60.70" (168%)
2011-2012 - 49.00" (136%)
2012-2013 - 25.10" (70%)
2013-2014 - 9.05" (25%)
2014-2015 - 2.90" (8%)
2015-2016 - 54.45" (151%)
2016-2017 - 63.00" (175%)
2017-2018 - 18.10" (50%)
2018-2019 - 52.30" (145%)
2019-2020 - 37.00" (103%)
2020-2021 - 19.00" (53%)
 
2021 Thunderstorms (9)
05/14, 06/22, 06/24, 07/27, 07/29
07/31, 08/01, 08/05, 08/13, 
 
Biggest Snowstorm - 18.4" (Jan 3-4 2017 - 26 hours)
Top 5 Daily Snows: 12.40" (01/03/2017), 8.20" (11/23/2010), 7.50" (12/13/2015), 6.60" (02/07/2017), 6.20" (03/10/2019)
Honorable Mention: 6.00" (03/20/2012), 6.00" (02/28/2012), 6.00" (01/16/2020), 5.70" (12/14/2016), 5.50" (01/18/2012)
Max Depths: 21.00" (01/07/2017), 18.00" (12/24/2015), 13.00" (01/16/2020), 11.00" (11/23/2010), 9.50" (02/27/2019), 9.00" (02/28/2012)
 
T'storm Days: 10 (2020), 14 (2019), 16 (2018), 12 (2017), 13 (2016), 20 (2015), 21 (2014), 16 (2013), 2 (2012), 12 (2011)
1980-2015 Avg = 12
Severe T'storms: 6 (08/05/2020), (08/10/2019), (08/08/2017), (07/24/2017), (01/19/2016), (08/05/2012) 
"Almost" Severe: 2 (08/10/2017), (05/04/2016)
Vicinity Severe T'storms (close enough to hear, with official severe reports)
(06/26/2017), (08/05/2016), (07/09/2015), (07/05/2015), (06/09/2015), (08/05/2014), (08/04/2014), (08/22/2013), (08/12/2013), (09/12/2011), (09/04/2011)

 

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6 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

I just wish he would fix the page template so that there is a colon and space between “Location” and one’s location.

And seeing if my SN can be on one line like SilverFallsAndrew.

Springfield, Oregon cold season 20-21 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 38F (Nov 21)
  • Coldest low: 23F (Oct 26)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 50 (Most recent: Apr 14, 2021)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 3 (Most recent: Dec 24, 2020)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7"

 

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52 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

For the record so no one claims otherwise... I am NOT calling for a July 2015 redux. I am calling for a warmer than average month though... So if that busts, feel free to call me on that. 

When was the last time SLE was not warmer than normal in July?

For OLM, it was 2020. 2012 before that. 2013 was basically normal, just slightly above.

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It was sunny early this morning... then the marine layer moved in and it was quite thick... but its clearing now and there is blue sky in all directions.    Pretty warm for a marine layer morning... currently 68.

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Tomorrow will be a different story though... the ECMWF shows the marine layer hanging on even at 3 p.m.

 

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Just now, Front Ranger said:

SEA running -8 on yesterday. May be a struggle to even get to 80.

Definitely struggle... the marine influence under this inversion is much stronger than the models indicate.

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1 hour ago, Timmy_Supercell said:

So we definitely had 120-122 in 1898!! 

I'm talking about the signal service data. By 1898 we were out of that era. That record is considered dubious though based on a couple of other reasons. I believe one being their thermometer only went up to 115. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 65.58"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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42 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

When was the last time SLE was not warmer than normal in July?

For OLM, it was 2020. 2012 before that. 2013 was basically normal, just slightly above.

Believe it or not there have been several recent July's at SLE that were only 0.5-0.9F above normal: 2020, 19, 16. August has consistently been the scorcher. 

July 2013 was top 5 warm July at the time (Not anymore because 2014, 15, 17, 18) were all warmer. I remember there was a massive N/S temp gradient that summer, IIRC.). 

2012 was below average at SLE. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 65.58"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

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Still a solid cloud deck here in Salem. Going to be only the 2nd time this month the marine layer makes it past noon. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 65.58"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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6 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Still a solid cloud deck here in Salem. Going to be only the 2nd time this month the marine layer makes it past noon. 

Ditto for Springfield.

Springfield, Oregon cold season 20-21 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 38F (Nov 21)
  • Coldest low: 23F (Oct 26)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 50 (Most recent: Apr 14, 2021)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 3 (Most recent: Dec 24, 2020)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7"

 

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34 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

Fred has to spend so much time on this forum creating & editing it. I would be more than happy to donate! @iFred

I have a limited income, but would be happy to help administer the site. I could probably fix the formatting issue with the location fairly easily.

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1 hour ago, Farmboy said:

I'll go ahead and say the Euro will be less robust with the trough shown on the GFS...  Just a feeling.

Good guess... the 12Z ECMWF seems to be sticking with the idea that trough will not dig nearly as much as the GFS shows.   This is consistent with its previous runs and the EPS.

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Despite the crazy heat SEA just went thru, it’s going to close out the month a couple of degrees cooler than 2015 for 2nd hottest June on record. 2015 didn’t have the extreme heat but it was sustained heat. 

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