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February 1956 was pretty good up here.

 

Snow cover all, but two days that month.

 

http://climate.usurf.usu.edu/reports/e15daily.php?stn=USC00357809&year=1956&month=2&unit=EN&network=direct:ghcn&sidebar=0

 

 

Those measurements are so strange.     7.99 inches of snow on the ground??      :lol:

 

How did you get that nice monthly view??   All I can get there are CSV and EXCEL files in an ugly format.

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Those measurements are so strange.     7.99 inches of snow on the ground??      :lol:

 

How did you get that nice monthly view??   All I can get there are CSV and EXCEL files in an ugly format.

 

Yeah, Idk why all the measurements are like with the Utah State data. 

 

I get that monthly view on the Utah State climate site.

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Through hour 90 the 12z is slightly faster with the cold air. I don't know that it is going to be any colder than previous runs though.

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Very subtle differences through hour 117, but the differences that exist are slightly faster and colder.

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Timing looks sped up a little on everything including overrunning. The overrunning looks a bit further south though on the 12z.

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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12Z Canadian shows the undercut happening WAY south...  like through California.

 

http://weather.gc.ca/data/model_forecast/colour_images/12_054_G1_north@america@zoomout_I_4PAN_CLASSIC@012_144.jpg

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Here is the total snow through 72 hours going into the cold air mass per the 12Z WRF:

 

http://www.atmos.washington.edu/mm5rt/data/current_gfs/images_d2/msnow72.84.0000.gif

 

 

Nada.     

 

GFS MOS has SEA at 40/27 on Monday with sunshine.    That will seem like nothing but a nice day to the vast majority of people.

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At least for people near the gorge the map Tim posted has snow in the gorge and basin. It will help to keep temperatures down.

Winter 23-24: Total Snow (3.2")    Total Ice (0.2")     Coldest Low: 1F     Coldest High: 5F

Snow Events: 0.1" Jan 5th, 0.2" Jan 9th, 1.6" Jan 14, 0.2" (ice) Jan 22, 1.3" Feb 12

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Here is the total snow through 72 hours going into the cold air mass per the 12Z WRF:

 

 

GFS MOS has SEA at 40/27 on Monday with sunshine.    That will seem like nothing but a nice day to the vast majority of people.

 

 

Unfortunately you are right. For most people this coming week will be cold yet pretty nice weather.  Nothing really memorable without snow. 

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Why show precip maps for Monday - Wednesday when no moisture or snow was really ever expected during that time frame. It'll be after day 7-8. Are you just literally looking for things to be negative about? Stop it. Thanks.

 

Because there was some chance of snow going in.  

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Because there was some chance of snow going in.  

 

There is still "some chance." (due to a convergence zone, a small low spinning up at the last second, etc.) The models are just models, it's not like it has already happened! There may not be a great chance, but it can't be totally ruled out at this point.

 

....and it's a good thing you don't work at the suicide hotline! :)

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There is still "some chance." (due to a convergence zone, a small low spinning up at the last second, etc.) The models are just models, it's not like it has already happened! There may not be a great chance, but it can't be totally ruled out at this point.

 

....and it's a good thing you don't work at the suicide hotline! :)

 

:lol:

 

Yes... there is a small chance.    But we will not be going into this cold snap with snow cover... such as in 1989 which made a huge difference.    Even if there was a dusting it would promptly melt in 40-degree sunshine on Monday.

 

A total shame to waste the second arctic outbreak of the winter with absolutely nothing on the ground.    

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There is still "some chance." (due to a convergence zone, a small low spinning up at the last second, etc.) The models are just models, it's not like it has already happened! There may not be a great chance, but it can't be totally ruled out at this point.

 

....and it's a good thing you don't work at the suicide hotline! :)

Agreed.

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:lol:

 

Yes... there is a small chance.    But we will not be going into this cold snap with snow cover... such as in 1989 which made a huge difference.    Even if there was a dusting it would promptly melt in 40-degree sunshine on Monday.

 

A total shame to waste the second arctic outbreak of the winter with absolutely nothing on the ground.    

Do you realize how you may be absolutely buried in snow with this? Don't rule out the possibility, but you'd rather look for negatives. Why do you do this? Is it nervousness about not getting anything? Like a [Weenie] tantrum of sorts, or what? It's getting annoying and kind of kills the atmosphere here. I've seen other say it so many times, and I never did, or perhaps didn't notice to that extent, but I do now.

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Do you realize how you may be absolutely buried in snow with this? Don't rule out the possibility, but you'd rather look for negatives. Why do you do this? Is it nervousness about not getting anything? Like a [Weenie] tantrum of sorts, or what?

 

I won't be buried in snow until a transition event... which is not something that excites me.     And I am fine with sunny and cold... but when comparing to events like 1989 this sort of sucks.      

 

I think its worth noting that we are mitigating (wasting) the potential here during the heart of the cold air with a bare ground almost everywhere.

 

The difference it has on the tangible effect this week will be HUGE.  

 

What are the odds that this would happen twice in one winter??  

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I won't be buried in snow until a transition event... which is not something that excites me.     

 

I think its worth noting that we are mitigating (wasting) the potential here during the heart of the cold air with a bare ground almost everywhere.

 

The difference it has on the tangible effect this week will be HUGE.  

 

What are the odds that this would happen twice in one winter??  

Okay, I along with probably everyone else realizes we likely won't see much moisture/snow as the cold air and arctic front passes south. I get that. Oh well. No point continously focusing on this. So, what's wrong with moisture arriving after day 7? At least we get something. Would you prefer just to get nothing at all then. It seems like it. I prefer NOT to focus on negative aspect of things, but you can't get out your own way doing so. Why. Why. Why. Relax.

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Just following up on what we thought was an incredible snow event for the lowlands next weekend... the 00Z WRF has the transition happening already by Saturday morning and the totals are not that crazy.

 

http://s29.postimg.org/h3dzf1ao7/snow1.png

 

 

Already scouring the cold air by 4 a.m. on Saturday:

 

http://s27.postimg.org/djb1sdt83/snow2.png

 

 

The flow is SW... not offshore... and that kills the snow chances quickly.     ECMWF showed this as well.    

Models always show this. Yawn.

We come from the land of the ice and snow.

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Do you realize how you may be absolutely buried in snow with this? Don't rule out the possibility, but you'd rather look for negatives. Why do you do this? Is it nervousness about not getting anything? Like a [Weenie] tantrum of sorts, or what? It's getting annoying and kind of kills the atmosphere here. I've seen other say it so many times, and I never did, or perhaps didn't notice to that extent, but I do now.

Well said Rob, I think he needs to grow up a bit it's weather after all.

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It just is amazing to me that we could go into this cold of airmass with little to no snow again. Extreme, the question is what will the other end of extreme bring our way? ridiculous over running event? possible.

The ensemble mean shows 850s bottoming out at -17 now. That is the coldest at this time of year in a long time. There will probably be one or two days with highs in the 20s. The 850s don't go above -5C on the ensemble until the 9th. Going to be quite impressive from a cold stand point. Absolutely no way of knowing how much snow we may see at the end.

 

The only real analog is 1932-33. That one had a slight dusting going into the Feb cold wave, but nothing coming out of it.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Still chilly day 5:

 

-17C for Seattle. Colder than the December event.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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The ensemble mean shows 850s bottoming out at -17 now. That is the coldest at this time of year in a long time. There will probably be one or two days with highs in the 20s. The 850s don't go above -5C on the ensemble until the 9th. Going to be quite impressive from a cold stand point. Absolutely no way of knowing how much snow we may see at the end.

 

The only real analog is 1932-33. That one had a slight dusting going into the Feb cold wave, but nothing coming out of it.

I can tell you are excited with your crazy quoting format!

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Models always show this. Yawn.

Indeed. Way too eager to bring south winds into the interior.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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I can tell you are excited with your crazy quoting format!

With what?

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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