snow_wizard Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 39 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: Just realize that the models show that today is expected to be one of the 2 coolest days in the next two weeks. They've been busting high a lot...especially the GFS. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, CloudBFIWx said: I’m genuinely curious how Mass feels about this. The study have yet been peer reviewed but it appears to be extensive with about 27 international scientists involved. https://www.worldweatherattribution.org/western-north-american-extreme-heat-virtually-impossible-without-human-caused-climate-change/ They lost me at the virtually impossible. Totally irresponsible. 3 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, Phil said: S**t like this is why so many people don’t trust climate science/scientists. Said claim is vague and impossible to verify. Similar events *have* happened through the Holocene (the Medieval Mega-Droughts being just one example). Or, perhaps, is it implied that the LIA climate regime would *not* have supported such an event, and that humans have a hand in pulling the system out of that regime faster than would otherwise be the case, hence bear responsibility for the event occurring at this point in time..? In which case I might agree. That’s is a plausible take. But the headline here is largely a disaster. It is misleading, seemingly designed to attract clicks and social media buzz more than anything else. Lame. 3 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: They've been busting high a lot...especially the GFS. Still... today might be the coolest day in sight. Maybe again late next week in 9 days. The general theme seems to be near normal on the coolest days and lots of warmer than normal days in between. 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, TT-SEA said: Still... today might be the coolest day in sight. Maybe again late next week in 9 days. The general theme seems to be near normal on the coolest days and lots of warmer than normal days in between. Normal is the new kold. 1 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, Phil said: Or, perhaps, is it implied that the LIA climate regime would *not* have supported such an event, and that humans have a hand in pulling the system out of that regime faster than would otherwise be the case, hence bear responsibility for the event occurring at this point in time..? In which case I might agree. That’s is a plausible take. But the headline here is largely a disaster. It is misleading, seemingly designed to attract clicks and social media buzz more than anything else. Lame. I would concur with this. Wish they would publish their study in more detailed manner. It seems like it was very watered down for clicks with an irresponsible headline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 67/53 on the day, currently 57. 1 1 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, MossMan said: 67/53 on the day, currently 57. Kold! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 We’re really ramping it up with the amount of daylight loss per day now. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard777 Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: 61°F. Closed most of the windows to keep some heat in. I just did same thing….chilly 62* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 hour ago, CloudBFIWx said: I’m genuinely curious how Mass feels about this. The study have yet been peer reviewed but it appears to be extensive with about 27 international scientists involved. https://www.worldweatherattribution.org/western-north-american-extreme-heat-virtually-impossible-without-human-caused-climate-change/ Funny thing is, they use very similar logic that he did. He said same pattern 100+ years ago would have been probably cooler by about the amount the world has warmed. Only they place more weight on the low probability extreme nature of the event. Also, this heatwave was about 2°C hotter than it would have been if it had occurred at the beginning of the industrial revolution (when global mean temperatures were 1.2°C cooler than today). Looking into the future, in a world with 2°C of global warming (0.8°C warmer than today which at current emission levels would be reached as early as the 2040s), this event would have been another degree hotter. 3 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 Now that’s a beautiful trough. And I’ll be in GA..also under blue. 4 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Phil said: Now that’s a beautiful trough. And I’ll be in GA..also under blue. Yay! DP’s in the 70’s instead of the 80’s, and highs no warmer than the low 90’s. Enjoy! 1 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 54 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Still... today might be the coolest day in sight. Maybe again late next week in 9 days. The general theme seems to be near normal on the coolest days and lots of warmer than normal days in between. But that wouldn't have seemed the case 5-7 days ago. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 56 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said: Normal is the new kold. Actually did pull off a negative departure here. kbli.txt 2 1 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Defense Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: 61°F. Closed most of the windows to keep some heat in. LOL we finally got to open the windows and fire up the whole house fan to cool things off to where we really like the temp (67 or less). I missed out on the other night when it cooled down to 53. 1 Quote Britton Rd Bellingham Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWABELLI103?cm_ven=localwx_pwsdash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: Actually did pull off a negative departure here. Perfect day today imo. Looks like a below average day across the board. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: Actually did pull off a negative departure here. kbli.txt 2.65 kB · 2 downloads -4 on the max here but +3 on the min. Have had consistently warm overnight lows since late June at my location. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 23 minutes ago, Phil said: Now that’s a beautiful trough. And I’ll be in GA..also under blue. Lol... as soon as you get to the OR/CA border the negative anomalies just stop. Never ends for those poor bastards down south. One dry lightning burst from the same shitshow as last year unfolding again. Not only does the fire potential remain high for them, but if it trends north Oregon gets put in the orange as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 Really nice looking GFS run tonight. The models are really locking in on a decently cool pattern. 2 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 19 minutes ago, Front Ranger said: But that wouldn't have seemed the case 5-7 days ago. The models have been showing huge runs with no highs below 80 in SEA. Obviously that has not verified at all since the big heat wave. Pretty plain to see there are plenty of sub 80 days coming up for SEA. The 0z GFS shows far cooler weather than what we saw today for much of week 2. 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 Today was an awesome cool day. Clouds didn't part until about 3pm in Bothell. Highest temp I saw was 72 in that area. Now down to 66 here in Woodinville. 2 Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 It's also quite intriguing how the models have been showing abnormal cold developing in Canada on recent runs. They've been showing some major below normal 850s up there. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luminen Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Phil said: S**t like this is why so many people don’t trust climate science/scientists. Said claim is vague and impossible to verify. Similar events *have* happened through the Holocene (the Medieval Mega-Droughts being just one example). Non-scientists trying to do science. That's all it is at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: The models have been showing huge runs with no highs below 80 in SEA. Obviously that has not verified at all since the big heat wave. Pretty plain to see there are plenty of sub 80 days coming up for SEA. The 0z GFS shows far cooler weather than what we saw today for much of week 2. Nah. Models always trend warmer. 2015 redux, but hotter. Cuz climate change. 1 1 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, Front Ranger said: Nah. Models always trend warmer. 2015 redux, but hotter. Cuz climate change. There’s been some loopy hyperbole in here of late. Gotten to the point where ma’ nature almost has no choice but to set the record straight. These overperforming marine layer days are the shot across the bow. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 25 minutes ago, Phil said: There’s been some loopy hyperbole in here of late. Gotten to the point where ma’ nature almost has no choice but to set the record straight. These overperforming marine layer days are the shot across the bow. Momentary blip. There is sure to be another 100+ day at KSEA this season. It’s all but a lock at this point. Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 Sunny and 78F here today. Strong marine push tonight though. There is a noticeable chill to the breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said: Sunny and 78F here today. Strong marine push tonight though. There is a noticeable chill to the breeze. That’s an amazingly warm reading for today… warmer than Portland, in fact! You must have really been shielded from the effects of the marine push. Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: That’s an amazingly warm reading for today… warmer than Portland, in fact! You must have really been shielded from the effects of the marine push. No marine layer here today. Sunny from start to finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Phil said: There’s been some loopy hyperbole in here of late. Gotten to the point where ma’ nature almost has no choice but to set the record straight. These overperforming marine layer days are the shot across the bow. I heard some loopy hyperbole in June about deep, cold troughs coming by the end of the month... and a 1954-like July incoming. 2 1 2 1 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow drift Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 Another day in the 90s here 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: Momentary blip. There is sure to be another 100+ day at KSEA this season. It’s all but a lock at this point. I don’t think it’ll happen again this summer tbh. 100+ days are extremely rare and what we just went through was an exceptional anomaly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 Wow. OLM is down to 52 with a dp of 48. The dp at SEA has dropped to 50 now. The high dew points we've had for so long now is why the min temps have sucked so bad. This is a nice change. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, CloudBFIWx said: I don’t think it’ll happen again this summer tbh. 100+ days are extremely rare and what we just went through was an exceptional anomaly. The anomaly was actually greater than anything that happened in Jan 1950 in fact. A heatwave of the scope we recently saw has never happened in the period of record whereas Jan 1950 cold happens from time to time. Although the monthly average in Jan 1950 is another matter. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 I would love to see some of that crazy cold in NW Canada during week two get dumped into the trough that's going to dig in here. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 44 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: I heard some loopy hyperbole in June about deep, cold troughs coming by the end of the month... and a 1954-like July incoming. Still predicting a #foreverwarm July? 1 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 Very pleasant 61F out there. Back to the 90s party before too long. 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Phil said: Still predicting a #foreverwarm July? The first 1/2 of July is going to end up pretty warm. That mid month trough is still a good week away on the models. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 Apparently it’s been pretty dry in the Alaskan panhandle as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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