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Salem officially hitting the 90 degree mark!

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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Even though KLMT was -1.0 from June 2015, it was still +2.5 degrees from June 1961 that stood the warmest for 50+ years.

Ashland, KY Weather

'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - 5.50"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 2 on 1/17

Measurable snows: 4
Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19)

Thunders: 11
1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15
3/26, 

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7 minutes ago, Timmy_Supercell said:

Even though KLMT was -1.0 from June 2015, it was still +2.5 degrees from June 1961 that stood the warmest for 50+ years.

EXACTLY.

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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8 minutes ago, Mapsyscon said:

Actually, GEG did not reach 90 yesterday so they stopped one day short of the record. 

https://www.krem.com/article/weather/heat-advisory-spokane-area-this-weekend/293-9d6ffae2-0300-43f9-8b20-bb286c527373

They at least beat the all time, that'd be good enough for most people. 

Ashland, KY Weather

'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - 5.50"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 2 on 1/17

Measurable snows: 4
Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19)

Thunders: 11
1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15
3/26, 

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28 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Actually June 2021 was warmer than 2015 at many PNW locations, and even if it didn't beat 2015 in spots, 2015 blew away all other June's by so much that just being in the ballpark was in itself unimaginable. The false narrative Jim and Jared are pushing here is misleading and distracting. Sure the first week of July was not as hot as 2015, but it was hot, with no cool down in the foreseeable future. They want to talk about troughing when we are looking at 5-6 90+ days in a row. Seems like we have been seeing major west coast heatwaves every 2 weeks since the end of May, good chance we see another major stretch of 90s the last week of the month. 

Yeah there's been more of a north/south gradient than usual this summer (2013!). June 2021 was the warmest on record at PDX, SLE, and EUG but fell a bit short for the Puget Sound region. Even here in Portland we've been doing better compared to average than farther south in the Valley for July so far. 16 days of 90+ already in Salem and 14 in Eugene sure seems torchy...

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6 hours ago, iFred said:

If you're the person behind Direct Weather, I will ban you on principle.

I swear I’ve never heard of it until today. 🙏 🙏 🙏 

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6 hours ago, snow_wizard said:

Kind of an interesting note on the 12z GFS.  Of all things an Eastern Pacific hurricane is the thing that finally ends up kicking everything into the right position to force a nice trough over us.  That hurricane has shown up on every run recently but what it will do exactly remains to be seen.  At least on this run it tracks properly to reposition and strengthen the NE Pacific block.

An EPAC hurricane could help or hurt the transition to troughing depending on the timing/orientation w/ respect to the wave pool.

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1 minute ago, Phil said:

An EPAC hurricane could help or hurt the transition to troughing depending on the timing/orientation w/ respect to the wave pool.

Or do the opposite! 🤪

Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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4 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

12Z EPS shows below normal 850mb temps for about 2.5 out of the next 15 days.  

I’ll wager that ~  half of the days between 7/15 - 7/30 will be cooler than average at SEA.

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1 minute ago, Phil said:

I’ll wager that ~  half of the days between 7/15 - 7/30 will be cooler than average at SEA.

Apparently that is pretty easy to do nowadays.   SEA runs colder than every other station.  

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1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Actually June 2021 was warmer than 2015 at many PNW locations, and even if it didn't beat 2015 in spots, 2015 blew away all other June's by so much that just being in the ballpark was in itself unimaginable. The false narrative Jim and Jared are pushing here is misleading and distracting. Sure the first week of July was not as hot as 2015, but it was hot, with no cool down in the foreseeable future. They want to talk about troughing when we are looking at 5-6 90+ days in a row. Seems like we have been seeing major west coast heatwaves every 2 weeks since the end of May, good chance we see another major stretch of 90s the last week of the month. 

Let's stick with the facts. You said "June 2015 on roids". I said June 2015 was warmer and drier for much of the PNW. It obviously was much drier.

June 2015 was also hotter at: Monroe, Everett, SEA (by over 1.5 degrees), Cedar Lake, Palmer Lake, OLM (by over a degree), Shelton, Centralia, Downtown Portland, Dallas, Medford, and exactly the same at Corvallis. I'd say that qualifies as much of the PNW, or certainly many of the areas people on this forum live in or near.

Don't lump me in with Jim, that's lazy and inaccurate. I'm not going on about troughs, or 1950s summers. 

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97/45 today. 

52 diurnal change in a non-transition season.

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Ashland, KY Weather

'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - 5.50"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 2 on 1/17

Measurable snows: 4
Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19)

Thunders: 11
1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15
3/26, 

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According to the 18z GFS the 850s today are higher than they will be at any time over the next 15 days.  That's something to be thankful for.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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20 minutes ago, Timmy_Supercell said:

97/45 today. 

52 diurnal change in a non-transition season.

Super impressive for the middle of summer!

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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53 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Let's stick with the facts. You said "June 2015 on roids". I said June 2015 was warmer and drier for much of the PNW. It obviously was much drier.

June 2015 was also hotter at: Monroe, Everett, SEA (by over 1.5 degrees), Cedar Lake, Palmer Lake, OLM (by over a degree), Shelton, Centralia, Downtown Portland, Dallas, Medford, and exactly the same at Corvallis. I'd say that qualifies as much of the PNW, or certainly many of the areas people on this forum live in or near.

Don't lump me in with Jim, that's lazy and inaccurate. I'm not going on about troughs, or 1950s summers. 

I haven't said anything about 1950s summers for a while now.  The models had / have been insisting it's going to get troughy.  It's not like I made it up.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 hour ago, Phil said:

I’ll wager that ~  half of the days between 7/15 - 7/30 will be cooler than average at SEA.

Yeah...the thing he's not saying is there is no heatwave anywhere in sight either, and the ensemble has a good 1/2 to 2/3 of the days with near normal 850s.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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3 minutes ago, Jesse said:

Dodged 90 again today. 87/52 spread. 

Would be kind of funny if we pulled off a 90-less July here in spite of the warmth. Still haven't been above 88 this month.

Definitely a 2013 vibe to the current pattern. Another summer to fall transition like that one would be much appreciated.

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44 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Would be kind of funny if we pulled off a 90-less July here in spite of the warmth. Still haven't been above 88 this month.

Definitely a 2013 vibe to the current pattern. Another summer to fall transition like that one would be much appreciated.

December.

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2 minutes ago, sand dune said:

It wouldn't be a record. GEG averages 19 90+ days each summer. I'm just tracking the amount for this summer. The consecutive streak was snapped though. Spokane Valley's streak continues.

I think I'm already close to my annual average of 90's. But needless to say, I've never had more than 10 in a row the whole time I lived here, going on 21-22 if forecast holds out.

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Ashland, KY Weather

'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - 5.50"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 2 on 1/17

Measurable snows: 4
Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19)

Thunders: 11
1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15
3/26, 

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https://imgur.com/SuGTijl

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https://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=vef&sid=DEVC1&num=72&raw=0

Death Valley has hit 130. Didn’t expect that today.

Automated reading obviously, so this one will also require verification. However apparently last year’s was 129.9 on the dot, so this could break the reliable world record.

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1 hour ago, snow_wizard said:

I haven't said anything about 1950s summers for a while now.  The models had / have been insisting it's going to get troughy.  It's not like I made it up.

Sure. But you have referenced 50s summers at one point, and troughs a lot recently.

I have done neither, yet Andrew tried to paint us in the same corner.

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9 minutes ago, Jesse said:

Our greatest heatwave of all time doesn't fit the bill?

A nice one started July 28 thru Aug 4, two 99's at the beginning of Aug which is impressive for here. But quickly dropped to 80's again for several days. The overall heat this year has that one beat at least locally, averaged out.

After that wave, it didn't hit 90+ until 8/21.

Ashland, KY Weather

'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - 5.50"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 2 on 1/17

Measurable snows: 4
Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19)

Thunders: 11
1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15
3/26, 

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[Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021]
https://imgur.com/SuGTijl

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11 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Sure. But you have referenced 50s summers at one point, and troughs a lot recently.

I have done neither, yet Andrew tried to paint us in the same corner.

I enjoyed the comparison of our recent heat wave to the heat wave in early June 1955.    Peaked in the low 90s here with that one... but apparently roads buckled.   Then 5 weeks of rain commenced.    Pretty much the same thing.

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@TigerWoodsLibido You were praying the other month for a VEI 6+ eruption sometime soon.... This could be your best bet...? Taal has a history of those and is becoming increasingly active (contingent to its cyclical nature), with ominously large SO2 emissions recently. Could be a way to cheat out a cooler year or two.

Of course the better option would be to stop playing god with our atmosphere and just f****** quit our CO2 emissions...but I don't think I need to tell you that...😕

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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7 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

@TigerWoodsLibido You were praying the other month for a VEI 6+ eruption sometime soon.... This could be your best bet...? Taal has a history of those and is becoming increasingly active (contingent to its cyclical nature), with ominously large SO2 emissions recently. Could be a way to cheat out a cooler year or two.

Of course the better option would be to stop playing god with our atmosphere and just f****** quit our CO2 emissions...but I don't think I need to tell you that...😕

I recently posted about the 1815 Tambora eruption, sorry for jinxing that for you guys.

Just yesterday a M6 quake happened just north of the Long Valley Caldera. 😱

Ashland, KY Weather

'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - 5.50"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 2 on 1/17

Measurable snows: 4
Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19)

Thunders: 11
1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15
3/26, 

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[Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021]
https://imgur.com/SuGTijl

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