TT-SEA Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, sand dune said: As of July 12th, Spokane has recorded 22 90+ days since June 1st, and Spokane Valley has recorded 26 90+ days since June 1st. 30-40 90+ is highly probable. Spokane averages 19 per summer season. I don't know Spokane Valley's average. The fact that SEA has been running unusually cold even compared to the rest of the Seattle area is certainly helping to fuel the discussion that its been so much colder up here. But it has not been anywhere close to normal in terms of temps or rainfall out here in the foothills for the last month... much warmer and drier than normal. And even within the immediate Seattle area... SEA is +1.2 on the month and WFO SEA is at +3.9. So its sort of a false narrative to say its been so much different up here. I would guess the departure from normal in my area has been about the same as PDX. 2 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 32 minutes ago, sand dune said: I was looking at September 2015. The average high was a little bit below average. Things go in cycles. With a la niña developing, I feel pretty confident about a wetter than average October-December period. The ship will get righted eventually. One would think. We really need a few wetter than average seasons to really right the ship. The late 80s early 90s were a long term drought in the PNW and were followed by a very wet period in the mid-late 90s. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: The fact that SEA has been running unusually cold even compared to the rest of the Seattle area is certainly helping to fuel the discussion that its been so much colder up here. But it has not been anywhere close to normal in terms of temps or rainfall out here in the foothills for the last month... much warmer and drier than normal. And even within the immediate Seattle area... SEA is +1.2 on the month and WFO SEA is at +3.9. So its sort of a false narrative to say its been so much different up here. I would guess the departure from normal in my area has been about the same as PDX. PDX is running a +3.6 departure on the month. So pretty similar to WFO SEA. Most of the valley is in the +5-6F range at this point. Very very hot days (88.3 average at SLE month to date.), but night time lows have been closer to average. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: PDX is running a +3.6 departure on the month. So pretty similar to WFO SEA. Most of the valley is in the +5-6F range at this point. Very very hot days (88.3 average at SLE month to date.), but night time lows have been closer to average. Same here... warm, sunny days and average nights. And endlessly sunny. Which is not really normal even for summer here. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow drift Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said: One would think. We really need a few wetter than average seasons to really right the ship. The late 80s early 90s were a long term drought in the PNW and were followed by a very wet period in the mid-late 90s. The Spokane firestorm was in October 1991. What a scary event! The whole thing was preceded by a super dry period between July and October. There were fires burning all around the Spokane area fueled by 60 mph winds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: The fact that SEA has been running unusually cold even compared to the rest of the Seattle area is certainly helping to fuel the discussion that its been so much colder up here. But it has not been anywhere close to normal in terms of temps or rainfall out here in the foothills for the last month... much warmer and drier than normal. And even within the immediate Seattle area... SEA is +1.2 on the month and WFO SEA is at +3.9. So its sort of a false narrative to say its been so much different up here. Per this map, it's definitely fair to say the Puget Sound region has been cooler anomaly-wise than the Willamette Valley. OLM is at +2.4 on the month, and HQM is at +1.5. SLE is running the warmest anomaly of anywhere on the westside, well above Portland and Eugene, which is also reflected on the map. It's been a month dominated by weak onshore flow, so it makes sense that the coast and areas closer to the sound have been quite a bit cooler than your area (which is often warmer in the summer anyway). Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Front Ranger said: Per this map, it's definitely fair to say the Puget Sound region has been cooler anomaly-wise than the Willamette Valley. SLE is running the warmest anomaly of anywhere on the westside, well above Portland and Eugene, which is also reflected on the map. It's been a month dominated by weak onshore flow, so it makes sense that the coast and areas closer to the sound have been cooler than your area (which is often warmer in the summer anyway). Looks like I was right about my area being about the same as PDX in terms of temp anomalies. Maybe even a little more anomalously warm up here. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 ENSO cooling back toward neutral... 1 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 71 and sunny. Noice day. 1 1 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Looks like I was right about my area being about the same as PDX in terms of temp anomalies. Maybe even a little more anomalously warm up here. Looks pretty accurate for my location too. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow drift Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: ENSO cooling back toward neutral... La niña to the rescue...it's coming 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: PDX is running a +3.6 departure on the month. So pretty similar to WFO SEA. Most of the valley is in the +5-6F range at this point. Very very hot days (88.3 average at SLE month to date.), but night time lows have been closer to average. Today will be the 30th consecutive afternoon with an above average high temperature here. July is running +6.1F so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 Just now, ShawniganLake said: Today will be the 30th consecutive afternoon with an above average high temperature here. July is running +6.1F so far. We’ve had 2 negative departures over the last 30 days…only -1 and -3 though. Everything else has been average to above. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said: Today will be the 30th consecutive afternoon with an above average high temperature here. July is running +6.1F so far. Its not really a north/south gradient as Jim claims. Its been much warmer to the north, east, and south of SEA. The only area that has been somewhat closer to normal is along the WA coast and in a narrow path up to SEA. But even OLM is at +2.4 in that cooler area. SEA is just on its own right now. But that is good enough for Jim to call it colder everywhere north of Salem. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 minute ago, TT-SEA said: Its not really a north/south gradient as Jim claims. Its been much warmer to the north, east, and south of SEA. The only area that has been somewhat closer to normal is along the WA coast and in a narrow path up to SEA. But even OLM is at +2.4 in that cooler area. SEA is just on its own right now. But that is good enough for Jim to call it colder everywhere north of Salem. It’s been pretty warm everywhere it’s not a even a debate. Sure it’s been a little better here but the story’s the same everywhere. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_in_Leavenworth Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 24 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: ENSO cooling back toward neutral... Doc V @MJVentrice · Jul 11 We're starting to see more instances of positive values in the southern oscillation index (SOI) frame work. This typically means the atmosphere is skewing towards La Nina in the Southern Hemisphere subtropics (pressure difference between Tahiti and Darwin). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Its not really a north/south gradient as Jim claims. Its been much warmer to the north, east, and south of SEA. The only area that has been somewhat closer to normal is along the WA coast and in a narrow path up to SEA. But even OLM is at +2.4 in that cooler area. SEA is just on its own right now. But that is good enough for Jim to call it colder everywhere north of Salem. I think Abbotsford had their warmest June on record and are around +5.5 for July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 year ago NEOWISE was on full display. 8 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 57 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Its not really a north/south gradient as Jim claims. Its been much warmer to the north, east, and south of SEA. The only area that has been somewhat closer to normal is along the WA coast and in a narrow path up to SEA. But even OLM is at +2.4 in that cooler area. SEA is just on its own right now. But that is good enough for Jim to call it colder everywhere north of Salem. SLE and EUG have been warmer than OLM, SEA, Seattle WFO and BLI. So as far as major stations go, I think it's fair to say it's been warmer overall further south. A week from now, most western WA locations will probably be in the +.5 to +2.5 range. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Front Ranger said: SLE and EUG have been warmer than OLM, SEA, Seattle WFO and BLI. So as far as major stations go, I think it's fair to say it's been warmer overall further south. A week from now, most western WA locations will probably be in the +.5 to +2.5 range. As your map showed... its clearly been warmer to the east of SEA as well. And to the north with stations in SW BC reporting larger warm departures. And BLI is running much warmer too. You also said SLE was running usually warm. Its been about the same across the region except for along the WA coast and in a narrow strip to SEA. But even a few miles north of SEA... its almost +4 at WFO SEA. Its a dream scenario for someone pimping cold to say its been so much colder in the Seattle area... but it really hasn't. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 Really nice looking 12z Euro and EPS runs. Let’s hope we can see things get gradually watered down in the coming days. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 Today is the big 20! It hasn't been below 90 in ages!! 2 1 Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 11 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, Timmy_Supercell said: Today is the big 20! It hasn't been below 90 in ages!! Looks like NWS thinks the streak will end either Thursday or Friday. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 2 hours ago, TT-SEA said: 67 at SEA at 1 p.m. and 82 here. Its been warmer out here pretty much every day for the last month. Sometimes much warmer. Doesn't take much to warm up at SEA while NB plateau sooner. Up to 77 at SEA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, Front Ranger said: Looks like NWS thinks the streak will end either Thursday or Friday. Yup Thursday was my original thought. They'll be back though shortly. 1 Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 11 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, CloudBFIWx said: Doesn't take much to warm up at SEA while NB plateau sooner. Up to 77 at SEA. 78 at SEA at 4 p.m. 84 in North Bend. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 EUG has hit 90. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: 78 at SEA at 4 p.m. 84 in North Bend. 79 now, I like SEA's chances of hitting 80 today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 July is living up to its reputation as being the driest and warmest month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 Been bouncing between 79 and 80. 14th +80 of the year. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 We only hit 80 degrees 17 times in 2020 and 2019. In 2015 we hit 80 41 times. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 Looks like those fires in northern WA and southern BC are still going. Bootleg fire is going again as well. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: EUG has hit 90. Looks like SLE may avoid it by a hair. Baby steps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 Didn’t realize there was a wildfire thread now. 1 1 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 28 minutes ago, BLI snowman said: Looks like SLE may avoid it by a hair. Baby steps. 86 sure is a popular high for PDX lately. Still sitting at one 90 on the month for them, top end of 88 here. That could last at least another 5-7 days judging by the models. It’s the little things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 32 minutes ago, BLI snowman said: Looks like SLE may avoid it by a hair. Baby steps. 1 Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 11 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 This July is making a run at July 2017 for being consistently pleasant. 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 If Medford just beat their record stretch of 90 degree days, that probably means I did the same thing. Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 11 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Jesse said: Really nice looking 12z Euro and EPS runs. Let’s hope we can see things get gradually watered down in the coming days. Second this. Pretty much summer perfection for the Willamette Valley throughout Day 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, Jesse said: 86 sure is a popular high for PDX lately. Still sitting at one 90 on the month for them, top end of 88 here. That could last at least another 5-7 days judging by the models. It’s the little things. Yeah, the last 90-less July here was 2012. Would be an interesting little statistical oddity to achieve given the weather pattern we've been in. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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