Front Ranger Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, BLI snowman said: 2012 was the last summer that felt like it was really La Nina influenced at all. 2017, 2018, and this year all have shown no indications of -ENSO being a factor. Summer has always been a bit more hit and miss with -ENSO. 1996, 1985, 1942, etc. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said: You and I both know what I said is true, whether the latest 2015 comparisons were specifically brought up by you or not. I believe facts and context matter. You made it sound like I'm just bringing up 2015 out of the blue, when that was not the case. I responded to something someone else posted about 2015, not the other way around like you said. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlTahoe Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said: You and I both know what I said is true, whether the latest 2015 comparisons were specifically brought up by you or not. I didn't get a turn to beat the dead horse yet. For Reno and Tahoe this summer has been much warmer than 2015. July is currently running +9F over July 2015 in Tahoe city and +10F for Reno. This is in fact the hottest summer ever recorded by a large margin up to this point. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said: Shawnigan Lake is running +4.6F for the first 2/3 of July. Outlier. Does not count. And you're in Canada and have to take a ferry or plane to get to OLM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said: Don't feed the beast. You know I truly didn’t understand what everyone was talking about when the term “flatironing” was brought up when I started here. I fully understand now. 5 1 1 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 Trail (Warfield) in the southern BC interior has seen an average high of 96.6F for July to date. A staggering departure from the July average of 82F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 In terms of recent Julys on the westside, 2013 is probably the best overall comp to this year for temps, at least it will be 3/4 of the way through. SLE's torch not withstanding...temps are looking similar for BLI, SEA, OLM, PDX, and EUG. That July was also significantly warmer on the eastside. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Front Ranger said: In terms of recent Julys on the westside, 2013 is probably the best overall comp to this year for temps, at least it will be 3/4 of the way through. That July was also significantly warmer on the eastside. Some July 2013 mean temps on the eastside: GEG- 73.94 YKM- 77.48 RDM- 69.58 PDT- 75.34 Some July 2021 mean temps so far, with a hot last week of the month still to come. GEG- 77.55 YKM- 79.60 RDM- 72.38 PDT- 77.50 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 That AL is back on the 12Z GFS at day 8... 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 Up to 61 now and totally sunny 3 degrees ahead of yesterday at this time. Nice to see a sub 50 low in the July/August period. Haven’t had one since 7/20/19. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 24 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said: You know I truly didn’t understand what everyone was talking about when the term “flatironing” was brought up when I started here. I fully understand now. It’s quite a fascinating phenomenon. I think it has to do with living at high altitudes. 1 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 https://www.google.com/amp/s/theweek.com/10things/567041/10-things-need-know-today-july-22-2015%3Famp Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 28 minutes ago, BLI snowman said: Some July 2013 mean temps on the eastside: GEG- 73.94 YKM- 77.48 RDM- 69.58 PDT- 75.34 Some July 2021 mean temps so far, with a hot last week of the month still to come. GEG- 77.55 YKM- 79.60 RDM- 72.38 PDT- 77.50 I literally said for the westside. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 31 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said: To be fair to him, there are a few users here that will drive their points so far into the ground they emerge on the other side of the Earth. The only difference is how they go about beating the dead horse. One tries to use debate tactics to make himself feel intellectually superior to others, one will threaten to beat you and cuss you out if you don't agree with his point, and one has gotten incredibly skilled at masking it as innocent banter after years of people giving him sh*t for it. See, now you're turning this into ad hominem rather than sticking with facts and logic. Downvote. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Front Ranger said: I literally said for the westside. No, you literally said "that July was also significantly warmer on the eastside". Please go back and read what you wrote. The literal opposite is in fact the case. Literally. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Front Ranger said: I literally said for the westside. You literally said 2013 was hotter than 2021 on the east side. Are you okay? 1 1 1 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 39 minutes ago, Front Ranger said: In terms of recent Julys on the westside, 2013 is probably the best overall comp to this year for temps, at least it will be 3/4 of the way through. SLE's torch not withstanding...temps are looking similar for BLI, SEA, OLM, PDX, and EUG. That July was also significantly warmer on the eastside. This was the comparison I made for temps to 2013. The westside. I then added that in another similarity, 2013 was also significantly warmer on the eastside. I did not say the eastside temps were similar. Nuance is apparently hard. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 This satellite covers the entire US and allows us to see the West Coast while the GOES West satellite is apparently offline. https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=global-northamerica-02-48-0-100-1&checked=map&colorbar=undefined 2 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Front Ranger said: This was the comparison I made for temps to 2013. The westside. I then added that in another similarity, 2013 was also significantly warmer on the eastside. I did not say the eastside temps were similar. Nuance is apparently hard. You probably should have worded it differently if that was the case, as in "that July also featured significantly warmer departures on the eastside of the Cascades versus the westside". It's been a tough summer for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 40 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: That AL is back on the 12Z GFS at day 8... How’s the EPS looking. Any rain coming? The flat lake fire near our cabin received about 0.1” of rain last night. Might be enough to slow it down for a couple days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, BLI snowman said: You probably should have worded it differently if that was the case, as in "that July also featured significantly warmer departures on the eastside of the Cascades versus the westside". That literally is just a wordier version of what I said. Maybe you're just going out of your way to try to prove me wrong? 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said: How’s the EPS looking. Any rain coming? The flat lake fire near our cabin received about 0.1” of rain last night. Might be enough to slow it down for a couple days Here is the 00Z EPS... basically no rain but also doesn't show any hot weather either. Just consistent warmth. 2 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said: Oh, lighten up buttercup. Nobody is personally attacking you. Just commenting on some of your often used tactics. Yes, and I'm commenting on the often used tactic of ad hominem. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Front Ranger said: That literally is just a wordier version of what I said. Maybe you're just going out of your way to try to prove me wrong? Nah, your wording was just poor and pretty easily misinterpreted. I'm actually giving you the benefit of the doubt in assuming that was in fact what you really meant. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlTahoe Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: This satellite covers the entire US and allows us to see the West Coast while the GOES West satellite is apparently offline. https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=global-northamerica-02-48-0-100-1&checked=map&colorbar=undefined Thanks. I was trying to get a satellite photo of the fire near us and found out the Goes west was offline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Here is the 00Z EPS... basically no rain but also doesn't show any hot weather either. Just consistent warmth. If those numbers verified here in Tacoma by the end of July we would be running +1.5. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 minute ago, AlTahoe said: Thanks. I was trying to get a satellite photo of the fire near us and found out the Goes west was offline. Very unfortunate time to have the GOES satellite down with all the fire activity currently and potentially coming up. Hopefully it’s back online soon. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 Kinda interesting that on the 22nd, this July is featuring SEA’s coldest max temp since 1986 while PDX is in the running for its warmest min/max on record. Been a uniquely boring July. 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 The GFS and CMC have some significant differences in mid range pattern development, with the GFS going much more Aleutian low style. Will be interesting to see which way the Euro goes. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 Consistently pleasant here... and there will likely be almost no marine layer inland over the next week or more. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Front Ranger said: The GFS and CMC have some significant differences in mid range pattern development, with the GFS going much more Aleutian low style. Will be interesting to see which way the Euro goes. 12Z GEFS for the next 10 days... Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 Holy crap, I can't believe I am the only one that has noticed that this summer has been running in step 100% exactly like 2021. It's completely different than any other year and looks like that trend will continue through the remainder of the summer!! Boom bittches!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 49 minutes ago, Front Ranger said: The GFS and CMC have some significant differences in mid range pattern development, with the GFS going much more Aleutian low style. Will be interesting to see which way the Euro goes. That Aleutian low is spawned from the West-Pacific CCKW and typhoon influence that is relatively transient. So whether it verifies or not, it’s unlikely to stick around for long. We return to a west-based La Niña type tropical forcing (intraseasonal) very quickly in early August (which can still be warm). Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 22 minutes ago, GHweatherChris said: Holy crap, I can't believe I am the only one that has noticed that this summer has been running in step 100% exactly like 2021. It's completely different than any other year and looks like that trend will continue through the remainder of the summer!! Boom bittches!! You need new material. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 48 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: 12Z GEFS for the next 10 days... Man, that would be an amazing severe pattern imby, as long as we don’t end up under the ridge. Though with E-Hem/Indian Ocean MJO/CCKWs next month, that fat, ugly 4-corners/plains ridge is only going to get fatter and uglier. I fear a top-5 hot August is in store for the lower-48. And September is looking progressively worse of late, as well. Even squinting, I don’t see any real hope on the horizon. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said: You need new material. Ya, nah, I will stay consistent, thank you for your feedback however. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Phil said: Man, that would be an amazing severe pattern imby, as long as we don’t end up under the ridge. Though with E-Hem/Indian Ocean MJO/CCKWs next month, that fat, ugly 4-corners/plains ridge is only going to get fatter and uglier. I fear a top-5 hot August is in store for the lower-48. And September is looking progressively worse of late, as well. Even squinting, I don’t see any real hope on the horizon. That’s like saying “I fear next Tuesday will be followed immediately by a Wednesday.” 1 1 1 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 Looks like OLM hit 43 this AM. Two degrees from a record. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, GHweatherChris said: Ya, nah, I will stay consistent, thank you for your feedback however. I've always admired your willingness to accept feedback. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Deweydog said: That’s like saying “I fear next Tuesday will be followed immediately by a Wednesday.” To be fair, there haven't been a ton of top 5 warmest Augusts nationally in recent years. Two since 2003. Hasn't been a record warmest since 1936. Due! Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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