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2 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

I think SEA has just been in line with the main core of the marine pushes that have been coming in.  They are in line for a fairly long trajectory off of Puget Sound when the angle is right.

But then why is OLM at +2.5?    OLM is in the same line and much closer to the source.  

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7 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Good grief.  Looks like some major thunderstorms blowing up over southern BC.  A lot of debris dropping down into WA as well.

Was this from last night?   There are no thunderstorms or debris clouds now... but that did happen yesterday evening. 

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Oops.  For some reason my sat loop didn't update correctly.  The storms were yesterday evening.

At least for me the MODIS for WA isn't updating so don't get fooled like I did!

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 42

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 

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5 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Oops.  For some reason my sat loop didn't update correctly.  The storms were yesterday evening.

At least for me the MODIS for WA isn't updating so don't get fooled like I did!

This my favorite satellite link...

https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=subregional-Pac_NW-02-48-0-100

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11 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

There is a spot in north Texas where you could walk across the line from warm and dry to snowy.   That would be pretty fun!  

Sounds like here this past Feb...we had a little bit of rain but not much.

Our typical winter weather progression:

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Springfield, Oregon cold season 20-21 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 38F (Nov 21)
  • Coldest low: 23F (Oct 26)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 50 (Most recent: Apr 14, 2021)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 3 (Most recent: Dec 24, 2020)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7"

 

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FWIW... the 12Z GEM delayed the troughing compared to its 00Z run as well.  

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Kind of an interesting note on the 12z GFS.  Of all things an Eastern Pacific hurricane is the thing that finally ends up kicking everything into the right position to force a nice trough over us.  That hurricane has shown up on every run recently but what it will do exactly remains to be seen.  At least on this run it tracks properly to reposition and strengthen the NE Pacific block.

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 42

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 

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Going out to Anderson island again here in a few hours to go camping going to be a good one. 66 and sunny here now. 

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Monthly rainfall-2.23”

Cold season rainfall-

Sub 40 highs-0

Sub 32 highs-0

Sub 32 lows-0

Snowfall-0.0”

Coldest High-63

Coldest Low-42

 

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The Canadian smoke model keeps the smoke out of our  area for the next 3 days at least.   It shows strong westerly flow at the upper levels and that really pushes everything east very efficiently.  

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In 2015 and 2016 I'd already have 12 thunderstorm days up to July 9. I'm at 3. lol

Could use a little monsoon flow!

Weather Data for Klamath Falls, OR
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Snowfall (with % of seasonal average)

2010-2011 - 60.70" (168%)
2011-2012 - 49.00" (136%)
2012-2013 - 25.10" (70%)
2013-2014 - 9.05" (25%)
2014-2015 - 2.90" (8%)
2015-2016 - 54.45" (151%)
2016-2017 - 63.00" (175%)
2017-2018 - 18.10" (50%)
2018-2019 - 52.30" (145%)
2019-2020 - 37.00" (103%)
2020-2021 - 19.00" (53%)
 
2021 Thunderstorms (9)
05/14, 06/22, 06/24, 07/27, 07/29
07/31, 08/01, 08/05, 08/13, 
 
Biggest Snowstorm - 18.4" (Jan 3-4 2017 - 26 hours)
Top 5 Daily Snows: 12.40" (01/03/2017), 8.20" (11/23/2010), 7.50" (12/13/2015), 6.60" (02/07/2017), 6.20" (03/10/2019)
Honorable Mention: 6.00" (03/20/2012), 6.00" (02/28/2012), 6.00" (01/16/2020), 5.70" (12/14/2016), 5.50" (01/18/2012)
Max Depths: 21.00" (01/07/2017), 18.00" (12/24/2015), 13.00" (01/16/2020), 11.00" (11/23/2010), 9.50" (02/27/2019), 9.00" (02/28/2012)
 
T'storm Days: 10 (2020), 14 (2019), 16 (2018), 12 (2017), 13 (2016), 20 (2015), 21 (2014), 16 (2013), 2 (2012), 12 (2011)
1980-2015 Avg = 12
Severe T'storms: 6 (08/05/2020), (08/10/2019), (08/08/2017), (07/24/2017), (01/19/2016), (08/05/2012) 
"Almost" Severe: 2 (08/10/2017), (05/04/2016)
Vicinity Severe T'storms (close enough to hear, with official severe reports)
(06/26/2017), (08/05/2016), (07/09/2015), (07/05/2015), (06/09/2015), (08/05/2014), (08/04/2014), (08/22/2013), (08/12/2013), (09/12/2011), (09/04/2011)

 

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Looking at the 850 graph on the 12z GFS it isn't bad.  Pretty much normal or below from the 15th on.

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 42

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Timmy_Supercell said:

In 2015 and 2016 I'd already have 12 thunderstorm days up to July 9. I'm at 3. lol

Could use a little monsoon flow!

I think dry is going to be the word for quite a while.  The dominance of the NE Pacific surface high is going to really kill any precip chances.  Down your way it might be a little more likely at some point.

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 42

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 

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The 12z ECMWF is really trying to get there.  That bloody trough really wants to get here.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 42

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 

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Looks like the next big push of low clouds is going to be Wednesday night according to the ECMWF, but low clouds make it to the South Sound pretty much every day.

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 42

Lows 32 or below = 0

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 

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2 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

The 12Z GFS is not much different than its 00Z run.   So if its lost... its consistently lost with the same pattern.

I'm looking beyond just two runs. And I don't ignore the 6z/18z.

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10 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

The 12z ECMWF is really trying to get there.  That bloody trough really wants to get here.

Actually it doesn't... yet another run where the trough just stops on arrival and backs off.    And it shows a sunny weekend next week after a couple marine layer days late next week.   Not a big deal at all.   

 

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11 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Looks like the next big push of low clouds is going to be Wednesday night according to the ECMWF, but low clouds make it to the South Sound pretty much every day.

2 out of 10 days on the 12Z ECMWF with a significant marine layer into the afternoon... that is pretty minor.  

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76 here at noon... summer perfection today with wall-to-wall sunshine, no smoke, and a pleasantly warm but not hot temperature.   

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What the hell are you guys expecting. Some big trough with rain and mountain snow. LOL

At least the weather looks semi-tolerable the next couple weeks. A win in this climate. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 65.58"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

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1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

What the hell are you guys expecting. Some big trough with rain and mountain snow. LOL

At least the weather looks semi-tolerable the next couple weeks. A win in this climate. 

I guess marine layer days are the big score now in our new climate regime.    

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Just now, TT-SEA said:

I guess marine layer days are the big score now in our new climate regime.    

Pretty much. The big score would be having them happen between mid-July and mid-August. We've had like 4-5 this year down here and maybe one lasted the entire day, so still pretty much non-existent. 25 years ago the big question would be if the layer would break at all. Now we get excited if it makes it past noon. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 65.58"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

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Up to 80F so mid to upper 80s is looking like a good bet. Got down to 51F so that was nice.

Springfield, Oregon cold season 20-21 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 38F (Nov 21)
  • Coldest low: 23F (Oct 26)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 50 (Most recent: Apr 14, 2021)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 3 (Most recent: Dec 24, 2020)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7"

 

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3 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Pretty much. The big score would be having them happen between mid-July and mid-August. We've had like 4-5 this year down here and maybe one lasted the entire day, so still pretty much non-existent. 25 years ago the big question would be if the layer would break at all. Now we get excited if it makes it past noon. 

July 1996 was pretty toasty.

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Marine layer burned off quite fast today and as result, it’s much warmer. Can’t complain though but very much preferred last couple days with the morning clouds and afternoon sunshine. 
 

Up to 74F with lots of sun!

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3 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

July 1996 was pretty toasty.

7/17/96 though!!!

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 65.58"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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14 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

7/17/96 though!!!

October 1996 was one of the only times I had a 90+ degree high in middle of fall.

There were some real indian Summers in the 90's and they seemed to have tapered since then. I'm lucky to get one or two 80's in a row in October now.

Weather Data for Klamath Falls, OR
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Snowfall (with % of seasonal average)

2010-2011 - 60.70" (168%)
2011-2012 - 49.00" (136%)
2012-2013 - 25.10" (70%)
2013-2014 - 9.05" (25%)
2014-2015 - 2.90" (8%)
2015-2016 - 54.45" (151%)
2016-2017 - 63.00" (175%)
2017-2018 - 18.10" (50%)
2018-2019 - 52.30" (145%)
2019-2020 - 37.00" (103%)
2020-2021 - 19.00" (53%)
 
2021 Thunderstorms (9)
05/14, 06/22, 06/24, 07/27, 07/29
07/31, 08/01, 08/05, 08/13, 
 
Biggest Snowstorm - 18.4" (Jan 3-4 2017 - 26 hours)
Top 5 Daily Snows: 12.40" (01/03/2017), 8.20" (11/23/2010), 7.50" (12/13/2015), 6.60" (02/07/2017), 6.20" (03/10/2019)
Honorable Mention: 6.00" (03/20/2012), 6.00" (02/28/2012), 6.00" (01/16/2020), 5.70" (12/14/2016), 5.50" (01/18/2012)
Max Depths: 21.00" (01/07/2017), 18.00" (12/24/2015), 13.00" (01/16/2020), 11.00" (11/23/2010), 9.50" (02/27/2019), 9.00" (02/28/2012)
 
T'storm Days: 10 (2020), 14 (2019), 16 (2018), 12 (2017), 13 (2016), 20 (2015), 21 (2014), 16 (2013), 2 (2012), 12 (2011)
1980-2015 Avg = 12
Severe T'storms: 6 (08/05/2020), (08/10/2019), (08/08/2017), (07/24/2017), (01/19/2016), (08/05/2012) 
"Almost" Severe: 2 (08/10/2017), (05/04/2016)
Vicinity Severe T'storms (close enough to hear, with official severe reports)
(06/26/2017), (08/05/2016), (07/09/2015), (07/05/2015), (06/09/2015), (08/05/2014), (08/04/2014), (08/22/2013), (08/12/2013), (09/12/2011), (09/04/2011)

 

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What would the heatwave in late June been like if it was the first week of August in Portland? Statistically their hottest part of the summer and they could have had one more day in the 110's before it ended. Lows potentially warmer too.

Weather Data for Klamath Falls, OR
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Snowfall (with % of seasonal average)

2010-2011 - 60.70" (168%)
2011-2012 - 49.00" (136%)
2012-2013 - 25.10" (70%)
2013-2014 - 9.05" (25%)
2014-2015 - 2.90" (8%)
2015-2016 - 54.45" (151%)
2016-2017 - 63.00" (175%)
2017-2018 - 18.10" (50%)
2018-2019 - 52.30" (145%)
2019-2020 - 37.00" (103%)
2020-2021 - 19.00" (53%)
 
2021 Thunderstorms (9)
05/14, 06/22, 06/24, 07/27, 07/29
07/31, 08/01, 08/05, 08/13, 
 
Biggest Snowstorm - 18.4" (Jan 3-4 2017 - 26 hours)
Top 5 Daily Snows: 12.40" (01/03/2017), 8.20" (11/23/2010), 7.50" (12/13/2015), 6.60" (02/07/2017), 6.20" (03/10/2019)
Honorable Mention: 6.00" (03/20/2012), 6.00" (02/28/2012), 6.00" (01/16/2020), 5.70" (12/14/2016), 5.50" (01/18/2012)
Max Depths: 21.00" (01/07/2017), 18.00" (12/24/2015), 13.00" (01/16/2020), 11.00" (11/23/2010), 9.50" (02/27/2019), 9.00" (02/28/2012)
 
T'storm Days: 10 (2020), 14 (2019), 16 (2018), 12 (2017), 13 (2016), 20 (2015), 21 (2014), 16 (2013), 2 (2012), 12 (2011)
1980-2015 Avg = 12
Severe T'storms: 6 (08/05/2020), (08/10/2019), (08/08/2017), (07/24/2017), (01/19/2016), (08/05/2012) 
"Almost" Severe: 2 (08/10/2017), (05/04/2016)
Vicinity Severe T'storms (close enough to hear, with official severe reports)
(06/26/2017), (08/05/2016), (07/09/2015), (07/05/2015), (06/09/2015), (08/05/2014), (08/04/2014), (08/22/2013), (08/12/2013), (09/12/2011), (09/04/2011)

 

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1 minute ago, Timmy_Supercell said:

What would the heatwave in late June been like if it was the first week of August in Portland? Statistically their hottest part of the summer and they could have had one more day in the 110's before it ended. Lows potentially warmer too.

One of the things that seemed to make the heatwave more intense was it was close to the solstice. Had extra time for daytime heating to occur as well. Hard to say though. 

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Monthly rainfall-2.23”

Cold season rainfall-

Sub 40 highs-0

Sub 32 highs-0

Sub 32 lows-0

Snowfall-0.0”

Coldest High-63

Coldest Low-42

 

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I haven't seen Shasta since the end of June so I can't say if there's white on it now. Probably only the tip.

But there was plenty of white on it before the 100's down here.

Weather Data for Klamath Falls, OR
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Snowfall (with % of seasonal average)

2010-2011 - 60.70" (168%)
2011-2012 - 49.00" (136%)
2012-2013 - 25.10" (70%)
2013-2014 - 9.05" (25%)
2014-2015 - 2.90" (8%)
2015-2016 - 54.45" (151%)
2016-2017 - 63.00" (175%)
2017-2018 - 18.10" (50%)
2018-2019 - 52.30" (145%)
2019-2020 - 37.00" (103%)
2020-2021 - 19.00" (53%)
 
2021 Thunderstorms (9)
05/14, 06/22, 06/24, 07/27, 07/29
07/31, 08/01, 08/05, 08/13, 
 
Biggest Snowstorm - 18.4" (Jan 3-4 2017 - 26 hours)
Top 5 Daily Snows: 12.40" (01/03/2017), 8.20" (11/23/2010), 7.50" (12/13/2015), 6.60" (02/07/2017), 6.20" (03/10/2019)
Honorable Mention: 6.00" (03/20/2012), 6.00" (02/28/2012), 6.00" (01/16/2020), 5.70" (12/14/2016), 5.50" (01/18/2012)
Max Depths: 21.00" (01/07/2017), 18.00" (12/24/2015), 13.00" (01/16/2020), 11.00" (11/23/2010), 9.50" (02/27/2019), 9.00" (02/28/2012)
 
T'storm Days: 10 (2020), 14 (2019), 16 (2018), 12 (2017), 13 (2016), 20 (2015), 21 (2014), 16 (2013), 2 (2012), 12 (2011)
1980-2015 Avg = 12
Severe T'storms: 6 (08/05/2020), (08/10/2019), (08/08/2017), (07/24/2017), (01/19/2016), (08/05/2012) 
"Almost" Severe: 2 (08/10/2017), (05/04/2016)
Vicinity Severe T'storms (close enough to hear, with official severe reports)
(06/26/2017), (08/05/2016), (07/09/2015), (07/05/2015), (06/09/2015), (08/05/2014), (08/04/2014), (08/22/2013), (08/12/2013), (09/12/2011), (09/04/2011)

 

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12Z EPS... trough can't quite move into the PNW.    The large 4CH is pretty much in charge.   That does not mean hot here though. 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Timmy_Supercell said:

I haven't seen Shasta since the end of June so I can't say if there's white on it now. Probably only the tip.

But there was plenty of white on it before the 100's down here.

Here’s a webcam of Shasta from Mt Shasta City today. Almost completely barren.

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Up on Paulina Peak several days ago (8000’) there were no patches of snow at the summit at all. I believe normally you’d still expect to have some snow there. On a very clear day you can see Shasta from Paulina Peak but it was hazy and I could only see to about the Deschutes/Klamath divide. However Diamond Peak and Thielsen have a few patches left.

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1 hour ago, snow_wizard said:

Looking at the 850 graph on the 12z GFS it isn't bad.  Pretty much normal or below from the 15th on.

12Z EPS shows below normal 850mb temps for about 2.5 out of the next 15 days.  

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2 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

The Canadian smoke model keeps the smoke out of our  area for the next 3 days at least.   It shows strong westerly flow at the upper levels and that really pushes everything east very efficiently.  

There is some in the upper levels right now, but the HRRR concurs on the onshore flow keeping it out of the lower levels, and also says the stuff that’s aloft should clear out over the weekend.

But, someday, our luck will run out.

It's called clown range for a reason.

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9 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

85+ days at SEA in recent Julys.

2020: 5

2019: 3

2018: 16

2017: 5

2016: 3

2015: 12

Another similarity to 2017... July that year was consistently warm but not hot.   4 of those 5 days you indicated in July 2017 were exactly at 85.    There was only one day that month above 85 and that was 87 on 7/25.    And there was basically no rain at all in July 2017.     That it a tight rope to walk... with almost every single day between 70-85 and no rain and no heat.    Goldilocks weather.    We seem to be on a similar path this July.

SEA finished July 2017 at +1.6    I remember people on here saying that July could not have been more beautiful if you scripted it out.  

 

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2 hours ago, James Jones said:

Are there archived satellite loops anywhere? I feel like I remember somebody posting a link to one a few years back.

Here you go... goes back to 2007 for satellite images.

https://a.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/loops/archive.html

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18Z GFS decided to join the ECMWF with the troughing later next week.   

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