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Which has better and more lightning? No biases here please if you can help it but I'd love for some personal memories with it which I don't mind! Which parts of the UK have the best lightning and areas to avoid the same with the PNW? Which are literal hell holes in terms of weather avoidance? 

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I'm not sure, but I would bet the PNW is better for warm core (southerly flow) thunderstorms than the UK.  We can get some real nice ones on occasion.   

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On 10/7/2021 at 5:48 PM, snow_wizard said:

I'm not sure, but I would bet the PNW is better for warm core (southerly flow) thunderstorms than the UK.  We can get some real nice ones on occasion.   

I've heard some pretty neat ones in the UK. The last few years have been absolutely steller while 2014 thru 2016 were pretty poor I believe.

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It ultimately comes down to the event at hand. One thing the northwest has never seen in recorded history is a tornado "outbreak" which has happened at least twice in the United Kingdom. In overall tallied lightning strikes? PNW could take the crown for that. Europe has on occasion seen some pretty good ones. 

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Snowfall - 5.50"
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Minimum: 2 on 1/17

Measurable snows: 4
Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19)

Thunders: 11
1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15
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On 10/11/2021 at 9:49 AM, Timmy_Supercell said:

It ultimately comes down to the event at hand. One thing the northwest has never seen in recorded history is a tornado "outbreak" which has happened at least twice in the United Kingdom. In overall tallied lightning strikes? PNW could take the crown for that. Europe has on occasion seen some pretty good ones. 

We have had some impressive tornados though.  The EF3 in Vancouver in 1972 and an EF2 near Seattle in the 1960s.  In fact the Seattle area had two in the 1960s.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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3 hours ago, snow_wizard said:

We have had some impressive tornados though.  The EF3 in Vancouver in 1972 and an EF2 near Seattle in the 1960s.  In fact the Seattle area had two in the 1960s.

We have not had anything close to the UK tornado outbreaks...
 

The 1981 United Kingdom tornado outbreak is regarded as the largest recorded tornado outbreak in European history. In the span of 5 hours and 26 minutes during the late morning and early afternoon of 23 November 1981, 104 confirmed tornadoes touched down across Wales and central, northern and eastern England.[1]

With 104 tornadoes, this single-day outbreak alone saw more confirmed tornadoes than any other whole year in British history – 1974 previously held the record, with 80 tornadoes across the whole year.[2] At the time of the 1981 outbreak, there had only been one other tornado outbreak in recorded history which produced more than 100 tornadoes within 24 hours, that being the 1974 Super Outbreak in the United States.[2] However, that outbreak included many more powerful tornadoes and resulted in hundreds of fatalities.

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On 10/24/2021 at 6:14 PM, TT-SEA said:

We have not had anything close to the UK tornado outbreaks...
 

The 1981 United Kingdom tornado outbreak is regarded as the largest recorded tornado outbreak in European history. In the span of 5 hours and 26 minutes during the late morning and early afternoon of 23 November 1981, 104 confirmed tornadoes touched down across Wales and central, northern and eastern England.[1]

With 104 tornadoes, this single-day outbreak alone saw more confirmed tornadoes than any other whole year in British history – 1974 previously held the record, with 80 tornadoes across the whole year.[2] At the time of the 1981 outbreak, there had only been one other tornado outbreak in recorded history which produced more than 100 tornadoes within 24 hours, that being the 1974 Super Outbreak in the United States.[2] However, that outbreak included many more powerful tornadoes and resulted in hundreds of fatalities.

I had no idea they were capable of that.  Doesn't seem like the right layout for it.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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On 10/24/2021 at 6:14 PM, TT-SEA said:

We have not had anything close to the UK tornado outbreaks...
 

The 1981 United Kingdom tornado outbreak is regarded as the largest recorded tornado outbreak in European history. In the span of 5 hours and 26 minutes during the late morning and early afternoon of 23 November 1981, 104 confirmed tornadoes touched down across Wales and central, northern and eastern England.[1]

With 104 tornadoes, this single-day outbreak alone saw more confirmed tornadoes than any other whole year in British history – 1974 previously held the record, with 80 tornadoes across the whole year.[2] At the time of the 1981 outbreak, there had only been one other tornado outbreak in recorded history which produced more than 100 tornadoes within 24 hours, that being the 1974 Super Outbreak in the United States.[2] However, that outbreak included many more powerful tornadoes and resulted in hundreds of fatalities.

Didn't know that the UK gets tornadoes.

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On 10/27/2021 at 7:55 PM, Mr Marine Layer said:

Didn't know that the UK gets tornadoes.

Feels like tornadoes outside the US don't get the attention they deserve. Turns out there was an F5 tornado in Argentina (look up San Justo 1973), apparently South America has tornado seasons! 

Thousands that visit Australia don't know there are storm chasers down there. 

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'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - 5.50"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 2 on 1/17

Measurable snows: 4
Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19)

Thunders: 11
1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15
3/26, 

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