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1 minute ago, The Blob said:

Good news everybody, I just accepted a promotion at work :D

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Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA:

2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches

HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24.

Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24

Days with  trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel)

First Freeze: 10/27/2023

Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24)

Coldest low: -12F (!!!!!!!!) (1/12/24)

Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground)

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SEA only missed their record low by two degrees this morning.  The record is 39 from 1949 and 1961.

At this point it's becoming obvious this cold snap is going to look very impressive when it's all said and done.  We could be looking at the coldest first half of October on record or close to it.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 minute ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

42˚F. About the same as last night.

Same here, but it's about two degrees colder than last night at this time.  Solid cold snap no matter how you slice it.  The only October I can find that is off the table for us to beat for coldest first half of October is 1916.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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2 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Same here, but it's about two degrees colder than last night at this time.  Solid cold snap no matter how you slice it.  The only October I can find that is off the table for us to beat for coldest first half of October is 1916.

I think it’s a degree cooler here than exactly 24 hours ago, but that’s so close I’m not obsessing over it. I suspect it will cloud up with the approaching system overnight and when that happens it will be the end of the radiational cooling.

One thing’s sure, official forecast has already busted and busted hard. Was calling for a low of 51˚F! What were they smoking?

It's called clown range for a reason.

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18 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Record low for today at KBLI is 30˚F in 1985. That’s not in danger.

If everything lines up right, may well see some frost here next week, though.

No doubt.  The ECMWF has been rock steady in advertising a very chilly morning on Tuesday.  No doubt that 1985 cold snap was a good early October event.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Looks like low hanging fruit for a record for SEA next Tuesday.  The record is 39 from 1946.  The real shocker I just noticed when looking that up is SEA hasn't had a record low in the first half of October since 1983 and that was the only one since 1974.  Furthermore all of the others were 1961 or earlier.  Pretty incredible.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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10 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Looks like low hanging fruit for a record for SEA next Tuesday.  The record is 39 from 1946.  The real shocker I just noticed when looking that up is SEA hasn't had a record low in the first half of October since 1983 and that was the only one since 1974.  Furthermore all of the others were 1961 or earlier.  Pretty incredible.

Try OLM.

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The table is really set for Monday night.  Unseasonably cold air mass in place, coming off of a cold max on Monday, and totally clear all night.  That should be enough to get all of the trees turning.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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23 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

No doubt.  The ECMWF has been rock steady in advertising a very chilly morning on Tuesday.  No doubt that 1985 cold snap was a good early October event.

No doubt.   Just no doubt.  😀

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7 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Try OLM.

They are all mostly old records too.  For some reason the first half of October has been largely devoid of cold snaps for decades.  1985 was a notable exception and even that is pretty old now.  Only 5 records in that period for OLM since 1989.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Just now, snow_wizard said:

They are all mostly old record too.  For some reason the first half of October has been largely devoid of cold snaps for decades.  1985 was a notable exception.  Only 5 records in that period for OLM since 1989.

That's a significant difference from SEA, though.

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Just now, Front Ranger said:

That's a significant difference from SEA, though.

True.  If SEA gets a record on Tuesday that's going to be a pretty big deal regardless.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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5 hours ago, snow_wizard said:

I'll never forget the roar in December 2006.  That was just a notch below the Columbus Day Storm.  The name of that storm poses some problems with the liberals BTW.  We might have to rename it.

Good thing whatever that storm was was a non-event here. So whatever stupid name you’re talking about is something we know nothing of. Must not have been that big of a deal.
 

Please keep your agenda off the observation board.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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56 minutes ago, RentonHillTC said:

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Why? It looks like a western movie.  Is it the song 'Map is real and on fire?" I have heard it before on the Wilderness Lodge music loop from WDW 'source' audio long version which is not available anywhere as YouTube has the newer edition which edited a lot of stuff out:  

 

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1 minute ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Good thing whatever that storm was was a non-event here. So whatever stupid name you’re talking about is something we know nothing of. Must not have been that big of a deal.

I know that storm! We were on the tail end of it in Silverton. Some large branches of our neighbors tree came down and Dad helped them saw it.  The power went out a few hours in our end of town. The entire town almost lost power.  If the storm was a notch stronger it would've been a different story entirely! 😲😲🛸🛸

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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24 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Good thing whatever that storm was was a non-event here. So whatever stupid name you’re talking about is something we know nothing of. Must not have been that big of a deal.
 

Please keep your agenda off the observation board.

You guys have no sense of humor.

BTW...there were two storms being discussed.  My comment was about the Columbus Day Storm which most assuredly hit you down there.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 minute ago, luminen said:

30 degrees here right now. 🥶

Do you actually live there?  If so...I'm jelly.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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I'm just in awe at how the models just keep the cold going.  At least another week to 10 days at this point. The 0z ECMWF looks like it's going to be colder for the trough about a week out compared to previous runs, continuing a trend that has been ongoing for several runs now.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Weenies in the Eastern half of the country have got to be hating this setup right now.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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32 minutes ago, Link said:

I know that storm! We were on the tail end of it in Silverton. Some large branches of our neighbors tree came down and Dad helped them saw it.  The power went out a few hours in our end of town. The entire town almost lost power.  If the storm was a notch stronger it would've been a different story entirely! 😲😲🛸🛸

The storm I wish I could have experienced was the storm on the Oregon Coast in 2007 (which locals in Cannon Beach informally called 'the storm of 07.' I did enjoy the weather when I lived there for just under 3 years, including Feb 7th and 8th '14 snowstorm with numerous rain/windstorms that make Seattle look like the Atacama Desert by comparison. But that storm in 2007 knocked out power there for at least a week and the roads north, south, and east were blocked due to downed trees, flooded roads (and Beerman Crk which is locally infamous), and rockslides. Now if a local Tsunami had hit they would have been screwed but thats still a fun event to remember. If you drive from Portland on 26, there used to be several signs indicating replanting due to wind damaged trees. As of a few years ago, there were still fallen trees from that event on the hillsides.

 

EDIT: I'm getting the names mixed up. The one they speak of is the Great Coastal Gale (2007).

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Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA:

2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches

HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24.

Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24

Days with  trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel)

First Freeze: 10/27/2023

Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24)

Coldest low: -12F (!!!!!!!!) (1/12/24)

Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground)

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3 minutes ago, LowerGarfield said:

The storm I wish I could have experienced was the storm on the Oregon Coast in 2007 (which locals in Cannon Beach informally called 'the storm of 07.' I did enjoy the weather when I lived there for just under 3 years, including Feb 7th and 8th '14 snowstorm with numerous rain/windstorms that make Seattle look like the Atacama Desert by comparison. But that storm in 2007 knocked out power there for at least a week and the roads north, south, and east were blocked due to downed trees, flooded roads (and Beerman Crk which is locally infamous), and rockslides. Now if a local Tsunami had hit they would have been screwed but thats still a fun event to remember. If you drive from Portland on 26, there used to be several signs indicating replanting due to wind damaged trees. As of a few years ago, there were still fallen trees from that event on the hillsides.

 

EDIT: I'm getting the names mixed up. The one they speak of is the Great Coastal Gale (2007).

I like the interior a lot more.  A lot colder in the winter.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 minute ago, smerfylicious said:

Disappointing. It's already an unseasonably warm 38 degrees. Was supposed to be a much colder 43 tonight. :)

This thing just keeps overperforming.  SEA is colder than this time last night with a much lower dp than 24 hours ago also.

Just looked at a couple of stations and the I-90 / SR 18 junction is already down to 35 and Lester 33.  Top tier stuff for this early in the evening in early October.  Monday night looks a lot colder than tonight as well.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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The ECMWF keeps the trough(s) in the 7 to 10 day period tucked closer to the coast than previous runs thus colder.  The big change has been keeping southern stream energy more cutoff from the northern branch.  Nice to see that.

EDIT: OMG.  Yet another perfect hit at day 9/10 on this run.  For duration this cold snap is going to be up there for this time of year.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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The GFS ensemble has trended much cooler for the third week of October now.  This month is really unfolding to be something special for cold.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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51 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

The GFS ensemble has trended much cooler for the third week of October now.  This month is really unfolding to be something special for cold.

Might be the first cooler and wetter than normal month here in quite some time. Breath of fresh air.

Our coldest temps of the coming Oct-Mar will be during the final week of this month. Similar to last year.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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