TigerWoodsLibido Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 A beautiful 65F out there. 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon cold season 21-22 Stats: Coldest high: 35F (Dec 27, 2021) Coldest low: 17F (Feb 23, 2022) Days with below freezing temps: 36 (Most recent: Apr 17, 2022) Days with sub-40F highs: 5 (Most recent: Jan 17, 2022) Total snowfall: 10.0" Last accumulating snowfall: December 28, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F) *Longest streak without a sub-freezing high on record* Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall: December 28, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 30.7" Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @358jerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 For reference: 1 Quote PWS Links NOAA/CWOP: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=120&units=english&chart=on&headers=on&obs=tabular&hourly=false&pview=full Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62/graph/2022-05-18/2022-05-18/daily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 Easterly shear already approaching 50hpa. Full blown -QBO likely for the middle and later part of winter. 1 Quote PWS Links NOAA/CWOP: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=120&units=english&chart=on&headers=on&obs=tabular&hourly=false&pview=full Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62/graph/2022-05-18/2022-05-18/daily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 Just noticed this tree is crooked from the upstairs vantage point in our room. Used to be straight! I think the combination of dryness, the recent precip and winds may have tilted it…. May have been weakened by lack of rain over the summer. It’s actually a big one and may actually go down this fall/winter at the next windstorm. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 The models are really kicking out some downright cold solutions for so early in the season now. Really sexy looking GOA block / NW trough. The 12z ECMWF showed a few highs in the low 50s for SEA coming up with one low below 40. Brrrr. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2021-22 stats Total Snowfall = 14.1" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12 Total Hail = T Coldest Low = 15 Lows 32 or below = 53 Highs 32 or below = 5 Lows 20 or below = 4 Highs 40 or below = 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatyorologist Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 42 minutes ago, Phil said: For reference: Wow, that's a big outlier. Quote Weather stats for MBY Snowfall: -Total snowfall since joining: 45.25" -2018-19: 21" -2019-20: 2.5" -2020-21: 13" -2021-22: 8.75" -Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; February 24th, 2022 -Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 -Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 Temperatures: -Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 -Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 35 minutes ago, Phil said: Easterly shear already approaching 50hpa. Full blown -QBO likely for the middle and later part of winter. We'll see. The numeric data I've seen suggests a weak and short lived minus anomaly at 50mb. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2021-22 stats Total Snowfall = 14.1" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12 Total Hail = T Coldest Low = 15 Lows 32 or below = 53 Highs 32 or below = 5 Lows 20 or below = 4 Highs 40 or below = 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 55 minutes ago, Phil said: God forbid anything would indicate global warming might be coming to an end! Glaciers could be grinding down the streets of Seattle and the global warming alarmists would say this in no way suggests an end to the global warming (which is mostly natural cycle BTW). 1 2 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2021-22 stats Total Snowfall = 14.1" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12 Total Hail = T Coldest Low = 15 Lows 32 or below = 53 Highs 32 or below = 5 Lows 20 or below = 4 Highs 40 or below = 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blob Posted October 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Eujunga said: Makes sense I didn't remember Oct 2019 as being particularly cold. I was in L.A. that month and it was the usual offshore wind / wildfire / smokefest down there. I recorded a +4.1 departure for the month. I was still living in Covina at that time. October that year was really nice. Honestly the only month that sucked for me that year was August because it actually got hot for us. I didn't realize how nice it was to live there till my parents were complaining about the endless 100+ heat and we would mostly be in the 80s maybe hit 90. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 The 12z ECMWF spit out a low of 35 for McChord on the 8th. Can't wait! 3 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2021-22 stats Total Snowfall = 14.1" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12 Total Hail = T Coldest Low = 15 Lows 32 or below = 53 Highs 32 or below = 5 Lows 20 or below = 4 Highs 40 or below = 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 I have no idea how the forecasters at Weatherbell managed to come up with a warm west / cold east forecast for this winter. Pretty daring totally ignoring La Nina climo. Their forecast falls into the least likely camp to verify. If this winter is ruined for us I suspect it would be too flat of a ridge over the NE Pacific / GOA as opposed to a ridge along the West Coast. I can't even think of a second year Nina that had a Western ridge problem. 1999-2000 was a disaster, but that was horrible for the entire country, and not caused by a Western ridge. 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2021-22 stats Total Snowfall = 14.1" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12 Total Hail = T Coldest Low = 15 Lows 32 or below = 53 Highs 32 or below = 5 Lows 20 or below = 4 Highs 40 or below = 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longtimer MossMan Posted October 2, 2021 Longtimer Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: I have no idea how the forecasters at Weatherbell managed to come up with a warm west / cold east forecast for this winter. Pretty daring totally ignoring La Nina climo. Their forecast falls into the least likely camp to verify. If this winter is ruined for us I suspect it would be too flat of a ridge over the NE Pacific / GOA as opposed to a ridge along the West Coast. I can't even think of a second year Nina that had a Western ridge problem. 1999-2000 was a disaster, but that was horrible for the entire country, and not caused by a Western ridge. East coast bias. 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatyorologist Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 sigh Quote Weather stats for MBY Snowfall: -Total snowfall since joining: 45.25" -2018-19: 21" -2019-20: 2.5" -2020-21: 13" -2021-22: 8.75" -Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; February 24th, 2022 -Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 -Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 Temperatures: -Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 -Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, MossMan said: East coast bias. I expect if it were currently 1949 they would have a warm winter forecast for us. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2021-22 stats Total Snowfall = 14.1" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12 Total Hail = T Coldest Low = 15 Lows 32 or below = 53 Highs 32 or below = 5 Lows 20 or below = 4 Highs 40 or below = 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 hour ago, snow_wizard said: God forbid anything would indicate global warming might be coming to an end! Glaciers could be grinding down the streets of Seattle and the global warming alarmists would say this in no way suggests an end to the global warming (which is mostly natural cycle BTW). Uh, Jim, there are two words in the phrase “global warming.” From that same linked article: 2 1 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: Uh, Jim, there are two words in the phrase “global warming.” From that same linked article: I'm not denying we've had global warming for a while now. Still a bounce back from the Little Ice Age. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2021-22 stats Total Snowfall = 14.1" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12 Total Hail = T Coldest Low = 15 Lows 32 or below = 53 Highs 32 or below = 5 Lows 20 or below = 4 Highs 40 or below = 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longtimer MossMan Posted October 2, 2021 Longtimer Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 If we can hit 115 in late June, we can hit -115 in late November! Book it! 1 1 2 1 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 I'm going to be interested to see just how cold this month will actually end up. Right now the models indicate a top 5% or 10% cold October is on the table for us. Really nice looking pattern coming up if you like below normal temps and great leaf turning weather. 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2021-22 stats Total Snowfall = 14.1" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12 Total Hail = T Coldest Low = 15 Lows 32 or below = 53 Highs 32 or below = 5 Lows 20 or below = 4 Highs 40 or below = 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: I'm not denying we've had global warming for a while now. Still a bounce back from the Little Ice Age. My point was that, contrary to your earlier post, the ongoing antarctic cold snap is not in any way evidence that global warming is winding down. Overall global temperatures are still averaging above normal. 1 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 Just now, MossMan said: If we can hit 115 in late June, we can hit -115 in late November! Book it! One thing for sure is the atmosphere has shown it's capable of great extremes the past couple of years. Very amplified base state. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2021-22 stats Total Snowfall = 14.1" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12 Total Hail = T Coldest Low = 15 Lows 32 or below = 53 Highs 32 or below = 5 Lows 20 or below = 4 Highs 40 or below = 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 Just now, Rubus Leucodermis said: My point was that, contrary to your earlier post, the ongoing antarctic cold snap is not in any way evidence that global warming is winding down. Overall global temperatures are still averaging above normal. I was just commenting on how just about anything could happen and these people would say the Earth is going to catch on fire in 20 years. 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2021-22 stats Total Snowfall = 14.1" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12 Total Hail = T Coldest Low = 15 Lows 32 or below = 53 Highs 32 or below = 5 Lows 20 or below = 4 Highs 40 or below = 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 61/50 today. Beautiful day high clouds increasing. Watching the new sopranos prequel movie been looking forward to this for a long time! 1 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 17 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: I was just commenting on how just about anything could happen and these people would say the Earth is going to catch on fire in 20 years. It’s pretty darn likely warming will continue as long as CO₂ continues to increase just because of the basic physics of the atmosphere. Saying that maybe it won't because for some unexplained reason the sun might dim is a bit like saying money spent on a new roof (when the current one is leaking) may be wasted, because next year a meteor might hit it and require repairs anyhow. (And I can’t prove there won’t be a meteor, much like I can’t prove the sun won’t unexpectedly dim.) 3 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 2 hours ago, snow_wizard said: God forbid anything would indicate global warming might be coming to an end! Glaciers could be grinding down the streets of Seattle and the global warming alarmists would say this in no way suggests an end to the global warming (which is mostly natural cycle BTW). Keep the politics off the observations topic please. 4 2 Quote Springfield, Oregon cold season 21-22 Stats: Coldest high: 35F (Dec 27, 2021) Coldest low: 17F (Feb 23, 2022) Days with below freezing temps: 36 (Most recent: Apr 17, 2022) Days with sub-40F highs: 5 (Most recent: Jan 17, 2022) Total snowfall: 10.0" Last accumulating snowfall: December 28, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F) *Longest streak without a sub-freezing high on record* Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall: December 28, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 30.7" Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @358jerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 hour ago, snow_wizard said: I was just commenting on how just about anything could happen and these people would say the Earth is going to catch on fire in 20 years. Well we have endured a fuckk ton of warmer than normal months. Only March was below normal over the last like 18 months. And we’ve almost caught on fire in the last 2 years so there’s that. Quote Springfield, Oregon cold season 21-22 Stats: Coldest high: 35F (Dec 27, 2021) Coldest low: 17F (Feb 23, 2022) Days with below freezing temps: 36 (Most recent: Apr 17, 2022) Days with sub-40F highs: 5 (Most recent: Jan 17, 2022) Total snowfall: 10.0" Last accumulating snowfall: December 28, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F) *Longest streak without a sub-freezing high on record* Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall: December 28, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 30.7" Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @358jerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWG Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 53/80 for today and we will have a couple of more days with a high of low 80's but it's been so beautiful!!! This summer have felt we have been in a capsule and just now we have been released lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 19 minutes ago, MWG said: 53/80 for today and we will have a couple of more days with a high of low 80's but it's been so beautiful!!! This summer have felt we have been in a capsule and just now we have been released lol I'm still full from all the 90-burgers. Quote Ashland, KY Weather '21-'22 Cold Season Snowfall - 16.1" December: 0.1" January: 9.9" February: 1.3" March: 4.8" Snow days: 10 - 4.8" - 3/12 Cold Highs (32 or below): 7 Coolest: 21 (Jan 7th) Extreme Lows (below 10): 4 Minimum: 5 (Jan 22nd) Max wind: 40mph (Feb 18th) Thunders: 23 3/6, 3/23, 4/7, 4/11, 4/30, 5/1, 5/3, 5/6, 5/14, 5/16 5/20, 5/21, 5/27, 6/2, 6/6, 6/8, 6/13, 6/17, 6/22, 6/25 6/26, 6/27, 7/1, Tornado Watches/Warnings: 2 / 0 Severe T'storm Watches/Warnings: 3 / 2 Frequent Lightning: 2 (5/20), (6/13) Hailstorms: 0 Max Wind: 50mph (6/13) ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 I have exactly a month left in Klamath Falls (this house just sold to someone and all the inspections are complete). So I figured I'll make my signature short by taking a screen shot of my current one and laying an Imgur link below for it. Looking at homes in Kentucky! Big changes are ahead. I waited until I was more sure of what the situation was before telling more folks about this. It's going to be in a city at least as big as K-Falls. Right now it looks like Ashland, KY. I'm aware there is quite a difference in climate and seems like a lot of homes are air-conditioned. Also most likely won't pick a home that will end up with flood damage; it'll be in a downtown setting much like my current setup. Summers are warm and there are skeeters, and like 50 some odd t'storm days a year? It'll be an adventure. Cities do have water main breaks just about on a every summer basis in that part of the US, so we'll probably have a regular rotation of backup drinking water when we shop. Just the little extra things I'll need to get used to in a different area. Maybe I'll see my first ever funnel cloud and/or tornado next year? 5 1 Quote Ashland, KY Weather '21-'22 Cold Season Snowfall - 16.1" December: 0.1" January: 9.9" February: 1.3" March: 4.8" Snow days: 10 - 4.8" - 3/12 Cold Highs (32 or below): 7 Coolest: 21 (Jan 7th) Extreme Lows (below 10): 4 Minimum: 5 (Jan 22nd) Max wind: 40mph (Feb 18th) Thunders: 23 3/6, 3/23, 4/7, 4/11, 4/30, 5/1, 5/3, 5/6, 5/14, 5/16 5/20, 5/21, 5/27, 6/2, 6/6, 6/8, 6/13, 6/17, 6/22, 6/25 6/26, 6/27, 7/1, Tornado Watches/Warnings: 2 / 0 Severe T'storm Watches/Warnings: 3 / 2 Frequent Lightning: 2 (5/20), (6/13) Hailstorms: 0 Max Wind: 50mph (6/13) ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow drift Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 hour ago, snow_wizard said: I expect if it were currently 1949 they would have a warm winter forecast for us. In 2007 JB favored 1949-50 as his top analog. He's predicted a cold West before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow drift Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Timmy_Supercell said: I have exactly a month left in Klamath Falls (this house just sold to someone and all the inspections are complete). So I figured I'll make my signature short by taking a screen shot of my current one and laying an Imgur link below for it. Looking at homes in Kentucky! Big changes are ahead. I waited until I was more sure of what the situation was before telling more folks about this. It's going to be in a city at least as big as K-Falls. Right now it looks like Ashland, KY. I'm aware there is quite a difference in climate and seems like a lot of homes are air-conditioned. Also most likely won't pick a home that will end up with flood damage; it'll be in a downtown setting much like my current setup. Summers are warm and there are skeeters, and like 50 some odd t'storm days a year? It'll be an adventure. Cities do have water main breaks just about on a every summer basis in that part of the US, so we'll probably have a regular rotation of backup drinking water when we shop. Just the little extra things I'll need to get used to in a different area. Maybe I'll see my first ever funnel cloud and/or tornado next year? You'll get some supercells down there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, Timmy_Supercell said: I have exactly a month left in Klamath Falls (this house just sold to someone and all the inspections are complete). So I figured I'll make my signature short by taking a screen shot of my current one and laying an Imgur link below for it. Looking at homes in Kentucky! Big changes are ahead. I waited until I was more sure of what the situation was before telling more folks about this. It's going to be in a city at least as big as K-Falls. Right now it looks like Ashland, KY. I'm aware there is quite a difference in climate and seems like a lot of homes are air-conditioned. Also most likely won't pick a home that will end up with flood damage; it'll be in a downtown setting much like my current setup. Summers are warm and there are skeeters, and like 50 some odd t'storm days a year? It'll be an adventure. Cities do have water main breaks just about on a every summer basis in that part of the US, so we'll probably have a regular rotation of backup drinking water when we shop. Just the little extra things I'll need to get used to in a different area. Maybe I'll see my first ever funnel cloud and/or tornado next year? I’ll make sure to head down the road once I move to Indiana. 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon cold season 21-22 Stats: Coldest high: 35F (Dec 27, 2021) Coldest low: 17F (Feb 23, 2022) Days with below freezing temps: 36 (Most recent: Apr 17, 2022) Days with sub-40F highs: 5 (Most recent: Jan 17, 2022) Total snowfall: 10.0" Last accumulating snowfall: December 28, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F) *Longest streak without a sub-freezing high on record* Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall: December 28, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 30.7" Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @358jerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longtimer SilverFallsAndrew Posted October 2, 2021 Longtimer Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, Timmy_Supercell said: I have exactly a month left in Klamath Falls (this house just sold to someone and all the inspections are complete). So I figured I'll make my signature short by taking a screen shot of my current one and laying an Imgur link below for it. Looking at homes in Kentucky! Big changes are ahead. I waited until I was more sure of what the situation was before telling more folks about this. It's going to be in a city at least as big as K-Falls. Right now it looks like Ashland, KY. I'm aware there is quite a difference in climate and seems like a lot of homes are air-conditioned. Also most likely won't pick a home that will end up with flood damage; it'll be in a downtown setting much like my current setup. Summers are warm and there are skeeters, and like 50 some odd t'storm days a year? It'll be an adventure. Cities do have water main breaks just about on a every summer basis in that part of the US, so we'll probably have a regular rotation of backup drinking water when we shop. Just the little extra things I'll need to get used to in a different area. Maybe I'll see my first ever funnel cloud and/or tornado next year? My Dad grew up in Ashland, Kentucky. It’s pretty similar in size to Klamath. On the Ohio River. My aunt and cousins live in Ironton, Ohio across the bridge. 3 Quote Snowfall Precip 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 82.13" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: It’s pretty darn likely warming will continue as long as CO₂ continues to increase just because of the basic physics of the atmosphere. Saying that maybe it won't because for some unexplained reason the sun might dim is a bit like saying money spent on a new roof (when the current one is leaking) may be wasted, because next year a meteor might hit it and require repairs anyhow. (And I can’t prove there won’t be a meteor, much like I can’t prove the sun won’t unexpectedly dim.) You're totally ignoring the natural cycle aspect of this. There is much we don't understand as of yet. 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2021-22 stats Total Snowfall = 14.1" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12 Total Hail = T Coldest Low = 15 Lows 32 or below = 53 Highs 32 or below = 5 Lows 20 or below = 4 Highs 40 or below = 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 Good luck down in Kentucky Timmy. Hope you see some big storms and enjoy it out east. 1 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, snow drift said: In 2007 JB favored 1949-50 as his top analog. He's predicted a cold West before. 14 years ago! Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2021-22 stats Total Snowfall = 14.1" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12 Total Hail = T Coldest Low = 15 Lows 32 or below = 53 Highs 32 or below = 5 Lows 20 or below = 4 Highs 40 or below = 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 Just now, snow_wizard said: 14 years ago! Predicting a warm west scenario in a second year nina seems pretty ridiculous to me as well. I think this winter will be decent atleast…not expecting anything major just one or two bouts of cold and a bit of snow. Think it’ll be a great year for mountain snowpack but in a La Niña year that’s pretty typical. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 hour ago, TigerWoodsLibido said: Well we have endured a fuckk ton of warmer than normal months. Only March was below normal over the last like 18 months. And we’ve almost caught on fire in the last 2 years so there’s that. It will even out over the next few years. You would have been saying the same thing in the late 1930s through mid 1940s. That was another horrific period people don't talk about. At least lately it's just mostly been the summers. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2021-22 stats Total Snowfall = 14.1" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12 Total Hail = T Coldest Low = 15 Lows 32 or below = 53 Highs 32 or below = 5 Lows 20 or below = 4 Highs 40 or below = 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 minute ago, TacomaWaWx said: Predicting a warm west scenario in a second year nina seems pretty ridiculous to me as well. I think this winter will be decent atleast…not expecting anything major just one or two bouts of cold and a bit of snow. Think it’ll be a great year for mountain snowpack but in a La Niña year that’s pretty typical. Yeah...A western ridge seems very unlikely. As I say the wave train being too flat would be our most likely path to a bust this winter. If we can maintain the huge positive height / surface pressure anoms over the GOA we have been seeing this winter could be awesome. I think the very chilly weather that is upcoming is a good omen. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2021-22 stats Total Snowfall = 14.1" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12 Total Hail = T Coldest Low = 15 Lows 32 or below = 53 Highs 32 or below = 5 Lows 20 or below = 4 Highs 40 or below = 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 13 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: It will even out over the next few years. You would have been saying the same thing in the late 1930s through mid 1940s. That was another horrific period people don't talk about. At least lately it's just mostly been the summers. It’ll be interesting to see how the next 10-20 years play out for temps here in the PNW and across the globe. You do have to admit though…humans definitely have an effect on global tempature rises. Releasing tons of CO2 into the atmosphere certainly does something. I do think you have a point about these things being cyclical…but there’s definitely a manmade element to the warming too we’re seeing now even if we’re in a naturally caused warmer post mini ice age rebound. 3 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 Very interestingly the last time we had a solidly cold October with a La Nina was 2008. I was actually pretty surprised to see that just now. A cold October with a La Nina is usually a pretty solid bet for a good winter...especially second and third year Ninas. People who are not fans of cold Octobers should be rooting for this one being it's a second year Nina. Years with cold a cold October during a second year Nina were 1950, 1955, 1971, 1984, and 2008. All good ones. 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2021-22 stats Total Snowfall = 14.1" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12 Total Hail = T Coldest Low = 15 Lows 32 or below = 53 Highs 32 or below = 5 Lows 20 or below = 4 Highs 40 or below = 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said: It’ll be interesting to see how the next 10-20 years play out for temps here in the PNW and across the globe. You do have to admit though…humans definitely have an effect on global tempature rises. Releasing tons of CO2 into the atmosphere certainly does something. I do think you have a point about these things being cyclical…but there’s definitely a manmade element to the warming too we’re seeing now even if we’re in a naturally caused warmer post mini ice age rebound. Ed Berry who is a VERY respected climate scientist is a denier of man caused global warming and he came up with a graphic that shows how miniscule the man caused CO2 contribution to the environment is compared to Mother Nature. I wish I could find that graphic again. It's literally like a mole hill next to a mountain. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2021-22 stats Total Snowfall = 14.1" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12 Total Hail = T Coldest Low = 15 Lows 32 or below = 53 Highs 32 or below = 5 Lows 20 or below = 4 Highs 40 or below = 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longtimer MossMan Posted October 2, 2021 Longtimer Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 This area of grass was the one spot that was completely brown and cooked. Only took about 2 weeks to become lush green again. 1 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 39 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: It will even out over the next few years. You would have been saying the same thing in the late 1930s through mid 1940s. That was another horrific period people don't talk about. At least lately it's just mostly been the summers. That stretch looks better with more cold and snow than what we have endured lately. I don’t think they went 4 straight winters without a sub-freezing high back then like what we are in the midst of. I used to say it all flips around one day. It does…except for SW Oregon. Once we are all dead maybe things will change and the cycle will cool off again. Quote Springfield, Oregon cold season 21-22 Stats: Coldest high: 35F (Dec 27, 2021) Coldest low: 17F (Feb 23, 2022) Days with below freezing temps: 36 (Most recent: Apr 17, 2022) Days with sub-40F highs: 5 (Most recent: Jan 17, 2022) Total snowfall: 10.0" Last accumulating snowfall: December 28, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F) *Longest streak without a sub-freezing high on record* Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall: December 28, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 30.7" Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @358jerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 minute ago, snow_wizard said: Ed Berry who is a VERY respected climate scientist is a denier of man caused global warming and he came up with a graphic that shows how miniscule the man caused CO2 contribution to the environment is compared to Mother Nature. I wish I could find that graphic again. It's literally like a mole hill next to a mountain. Well either way the next decade or two will be pretty telling. To me…the current warming climate and industrialization go hand in hand…but I respect your opinion. Lots of the climate debate stuff has become very politically polarized and not founded in science rather emotion lately…as have many other things. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthHillFrosty Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 Mariner hitters look tense... loosen up boys 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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snow_wizard Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 If the models are anywhere near correct the first half of the this month is going to be notably chilly. Can't wait to see how it plays out. 1 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2021-22 stats Total Snowfall = 14.1" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12 Total Hail = T Coldest Low = 15 Lows 32 or below = 53 Highs 32 or below = 5 Lows 20 or below = 4 Highs 40 or below = 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Lake Oswego Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 Poof goes Tuesday’s rain. Friday’s already went poof a few runs ago. Next Sunday is fizzling out too. Looks chilly though. Overall, looks cool and dry after the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, Joshua Lake Oswego said: Poof goes Tuesday’s rain. Friday’s already went poof a few runs ago. Next Sunday is fizzling out too. Looks chilly though. Overall, looks cool and dry after the weekend. Probably going to be frost soon by the looks of it. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2021-22 stats Total Snowfall = 14.1" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12 Total Hail = T Coldest Low = 15 Lows 32 or below = 53 Highs 32 or below = 5 Lows 20 or below = 4 Highs 40 or below = 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow drift Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 hour ago, snow_wizard said: 14 years ago! A cold prediction from him is the kiss of death. I'm not too worried about his predictions. Let's hangout under the radar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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