Blizzard777 Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 46* with a little wind as this line goes through. Fun stuff slid north of me again. No dramatic cloud action to be seen on my end 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said: 39 degrees and rain. Impressive cold November day. I'm impressed by the fact we are getting such cold air mixing with so much moisture this early in the season. Pretty unusual for this early. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blizzard777 Posted November 7, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 On a fun note my pic the other day made the news! Always fun to be part of the weather segment 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jginmartini said: 46* with a little wind as this line goes through. Fun stuff slid north of me again. No dramatic cloud action to be seen on my end I'm a little bit puzzled myself why the really good stuff has mostly avoided yours and my area so far. The Langley Hill radar shows another impressive area of showers moving our way that looks more promising placement wise. 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Timmy Posted November 7, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 My place in rockaway this morning. Right on the beach 6 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jginmartini said: On a fun note my pic the other day made the news! Always fun to be part of the weather segment That is a great pic. 3 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 Since no one else is talking about it I figured I might as well post this. 1 1 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard777 Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: I'm a little bit puzzled myself why the really good stuff has mostly avoided yours and my area so far. The Langley Hill radar shows another impressive area of showers moving our way that looks more promising placement wise. I’ve noticed this happening quite often. I’m sure somehow the terrain is to blame and my area just doesn’t know how ruffle the air currents enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 16 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: I'm talking more about why the upper level stuff is usually more supportive early in the season than late. The inversion part is easy, but I’d have to defer to Lord Phil as to the exactitudes of why blocking tends to become a lot more transitory as we get well into February and especially March. I’m sure insulation itself has at least something to do with it. 1 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: Since no one else is talking about it I figured I might as well post this. Cold continental air has been banned in California and Arizona. Good thing @AlTahoe just has to drive east a couple miles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 hour ago, snow_wizard said: I never have fully understood why we are so much more capable of getting cold early in the season than late in this region. I suspect it’s related to seasonal cycle(s) in wavelengths driven by differential heating/etc. On the surface you’d think the thermal inertia of the Pacific Ocean would produce a delayed winter peak in the PNW, but it seems the Arctic cooling/tightening thermal gradient thru DJF runs the entire show. 2 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 It obviously has something to do with the seasonal cooling of the Arctic. Image by Brian Brettschneider. 3 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: Since no one else is talking about it I figured I might as well post this. I don't have access to those maps. Hmmm.... Chilly. Tons of cold air building to our north right where we want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 Very good article on the Vancouver tornado here. In some pix it almost looks like a wedge tornado. Never seen one like that here. The Weather Network – November ‘ultra-rare’ tornado hits Vancouver, BC, reported damage – Aws For WP 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 I know it’s been said many times but 2006/07 was such a complete fun winter! Major flooding event in early November, massive snow/arctic event in late November, massive windstorm in December, a great arctic/snow event in January, and a fun snow event in late February. Yeah I would take a repeat! 1 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said: Cold continental air has been banned in California and Arizona. Good thing @AlTahoe just has to drive east a couple miles. What about all the blue stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, DJ Droppin said: I don't have access to those maps. Hmmm.... Chilly. Tons of cold air building to our north right where we want it. The stuff over us is pretty darn cold too. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, MossMan said: I know it’s been said many times but 2006/07 was such a complete fun winter! Major flooding event in early November, massive snow/arctic event in late November, massive windstorm in December, a great arctic/snow event in January, and a fun snow event in late February. Yeah I would take a repeat! Jan 2007 was certainly my favorite January event of the century so far. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolk1604 Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 17 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: Since no one else is talking about it I figured I might as well post this. Really good to see Arctic air building in BC. Now let's move it south and keep it that way 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Deweydog said: Pretty simple. Being so maritime-dominant, our lowland snow season is much more in line with the solstice due to the needed assistance of inversions and full latitude blocking. I think the West as a whole sees a lot more early season cold compared to the East. It's not just a PNW thing. Edit: I now see Brian's map shows this as well. 3 Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, MossMan said: I know it’s been said many times but 2006/07 was such a complete fun winter! Major flooding event in early November, massive snow/arctic event in late November, massive windstorm in December, a great arctic/snow event in January, and a fun snow event in late February. Yeah I would take a repeat! And it was an El Niño. And so was 2018/19. And 1968/69. 2 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, Jginmartini said: I’ve noticed this happening quite often. I’m sure somehow the terrain is to blame and my area just doesn’t know how ruffle the air currents enough. Looks we might get our turn today. Some pretty hefty stuff headed our way. It's already chilly, breezy, and wet here. Only 44 degrees. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, DJ Droppin said: I don't have access to those maps. Hmmm.... Chilly. Tons of cold air building to our north right where we want it. Yeah there is a lot of cold arctic air building and surging directly south on the 12z run. Definitely a lot of potential there. Andrew is just being a Debbie Downer. 1 1 2 Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Jones Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, Phil said: I suspect it’s related to seasonal cycle(s) in wavelengths driven by differential heating/etc. On the surface you’d think the thermal inertia of the Pacific Ocean would produce a delayed winter peak in the PNW, but it seems the Arctic cooling/tightening thermal gradient thru DJF runs the entire show. To me one of the most interesting aspects of this climate is how seasonal lag only really effects the warm season. Spring is very long around here with June actually being slightly cooler on average than September, while fall is very abbreviated compared to places east of the Rockies. Averages bottom out pretty much right on the solstice and start ticking up a couple tenths before New Years. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Kayla said: Yeah there is a lot of cold arctic air building and surging directly south on the 12z run. Definitely a lot of potential there. Andrew is just being a Debbie Downer. Andrew likes flat zonal flow. What is exciting for him isn’t exciting for 90% of the forum. 1 1 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 31 minutes ago, Deweydog said: The inversion part is easy, but I’d have to defer to Lord Phil as to the exactitudes of why blocking tends to become a lot more transitory as we get well into February and especially March. I’m sure insulation itself has at least something to do with it. I don’t doubt you re: inversion season. It just seems that’s merely one piece of the puzzle as winter starts (and peaks) earlier across the entire western US/Canada. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 13 minutes ago, Phil said: Andrew likes flat zonal flow. What is exciting for him isn’t exciting for 90% of the forum. Cold zonal flow is actually a good pattern. Warm zonal flow is the most godawful thing about our winters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 25F and snowing at Timberline Lodge. They are reporting 7" of snow since 5AM. Not snowing as much at Bachelor though. It's one of those "precip only on the westside from Eugene northward" kinda days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 32 minutes ago, Kayla said: Yeah there is a lot of cold arctic air building and surging directly south on the 12z run. Definitely a lot of potential there. Andrew is just being a Debbie Downer. You should do well if that verifies. 1 2 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 Word is out on the 12z Euro according to HD’s shovel supply! 2 1 1 3 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 17 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said: Cold zonal flow is actually a good pattern. Warm zonal flow is the most godawful thing about our winters. Yeah I would argue that January 2008, or March 2012 are better than 90% of our boring winter weather patterns. I prefer zonal flow over some of the lame patterns some on here cheerlead, specifically "blocking" that is really just a big west coast ridge they try to wish into retrograding. You won't see me complaining about December 2013 or early January 2017. 4 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Deweydog said: Word is out on the 12z Euro according to HD’s shovel supply! Snow shovels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said: Snow shovels? I’m sorry, you must word it in the form of a question. “What are snow shovels?” 1 2 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Deweydog said: I’m sorry, you must word it in the form of a question. “What are snow shovels?” What is "Are we playing Jeopardy?" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 Been cloudy and dry all day in Springfield so far. Got to Coburg and it started pouring. Very defined precip gradient. Good thing we’re ahead of the pace in the precip dept for Nov so far. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolk1604 Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolk1604 Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 And as talked about, 850 temps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Kolk1604 said: And as talked about, 850 temps Looks good. I’ll believe it when the GFS comes around. 1 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 GFS sucked. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Yeah I would argue that January 2008, or March 2012 are better than 90% of our boring winter weather patterns. I prefer zonal flow over some of the lame patterns some on here cheerlead, specifically "blocking" that is really just a big west coast ridge they try to wish into retrograding. You won't see me complaining about December 2013 or early January 2017. Uh…the vast majority of Arctic outbreaks in the PNW region have followed a discontinuous retrogression of the GOA high. What else would you be looking for? Can you think of any legitimate PNW arctic events under a prograding GOA/NPAC high? I can’t. 2 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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