PNW November 2021 Wx Obs/Discussion

[SilverFallsAndrew]

21 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

That rain/snow ratio in the Oregon Cascades is pitiful lol

Good time to remember that a warm/boring November is a good sign

This map is just another example in real time of what snow pack researchers are talking about. Plenty of rain, but it just drains right off... 

[TacomaWaWx]

Got down to 42 this morning picked up 0.01” a bit after midnight. It’s a nice morning with some sunshine. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

My wife said it was sunny at home, but it's cloudy down here in Salem. 

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

My wife said it was sunny at home, but it's cloudy down here in Salem. 

Some sun here as well...

[TacomaWaWx]

We’ve picked up 12.48” of rain this autumn…we’ve already surpassed the last 3 falls at this point. I think it’s pretty likely we surpass 2017 soon but we will have to pick up another 7” of rain this month to get up to the 2016 total of 19.39”…which is the wettest fall I’ve recorded. Still the wettest fall in several years here. If some of these model runs verify it could surpass 2016 but I’m sure those totals will come back down a bit. 

[TT-SEA]

Total rain over the next week per the 12Z ECMWF... 3 or 4 inches here is probably more realistic than the 20 inches the ICON is showing.  

[TacomaWaWx]

We’re also still yet to get below 35 so far…and only 3 lows in the 30s so far this season. Totally fine with me since most of the time in the last 15 years that’s actually been a good sign waiting to get cold anomalies later on in late fall/early winter. 

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, TacomaWaWx said:

We’re also still yet to get below 35 so far…and only 3 lows in the 30s so far this season. Totally fine with me since most of the time in the last 15 years that’s actually been a good sign waiting to get cold anomalies later on in late fall/early winter. 

Yeah... still have not had a freeze here this fall and nothing in sight.     Roses still blooming.    They lasted until December 4th back in 2016.

[TacomaWaWx]

4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Yeah... still have not had a freeze here this fall and nothing in sight.     Roses still blooming.    They lasted until December 4th back in 2016.

I think a lot of places got down to freezing already but not here just yet. Our 3 best winters in the last 15 years were late too so I don’t think it’s a bad sign at all. Of course my location doesn’t represent the whole region but overall I think that’s a good sign for later on. 

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

58 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

3 days of heat... weeks of rain.   That is not a fair trade off.     

But the reality is that November rain doesn't help much if we have another hot and dry summer.  

Great song, November rain. Saw it live 4 years ago. Always impressive to see a rock legend like axle rose play a piano like he can. 

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

I think Jim mentioned the dead pine needles the other day. We have massive amounts of fir needles on the ground like never seen before.  Mossman doesn't have any. I don't think he hit 100 degrees either.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

It was more than 3 day's of heat Tim lol. Felt like 200 days to me. 

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

15 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Yeah... still have not had a freeze here this fall and nothing in sight.     Roses still blooming.    They lasted until December 4th back in 2016.

Mine are as well. Grass totally stopped growing though.

[FroYoBro]

17 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said:

We’re also still yet to get below 35 so far…and only 3 lows in the 30s so far this season. Totally fine with me since most of the time in the last 15 years that’s actually been a good sign waiting to get cold anomalies later on in late fall/early winter. 

Yep, same thing here as well. No freeze and the lowest we have hit is about 35 degrees. 
 

Not that weird at this spot, but it’s starting to get late.

[TT-SEA]

10 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

It was more than 3 day's of heat Tim lol. Felt like 200 days to me. 

Well it wasn't.   The first half of June was unusually wet and chilly and then July and August were close to normal in the Seattle area.    I think this might be more related to you preferring drizzle and clouds and temps below 65 all summer which is not really climo here.  

[TT-SEA]

12 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Mine are as well. Grass totally stopped growing though.

Yeah... the grass has stopped growing here too.    I really need to do one more mowing... its pretty long and there are lots of leaves and branches in the yard now.   

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

5 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Well it wasn't.   The first half of June was unusually wet and chilly and then July and August were close to normal in the Seattle area.    I think this might be more related to you preferring drizzle and clouds and temps below 65 all summer which is not really climo here.  

I love a sunny 75 degree day here. Perfect.  That 100 plus stuff is just to much.  From a weather standpoint it was absolutely fascinating though.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Latest first freeze I’ve had was 2016, turned out okay. We’re already in 2nd place though.

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

I love a sunny 75 degree day here. Perfect.  That 100 plus stuff is just to much.  From a weather standpoint it was absolutely fascinating though.

I think anything over 90 is too much.   Those 3 or 4 days in late June were just stupid.  

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Yeah... the grass has stopped growing here too.    I really need to do one more mowing... its pretty long and there are lots of leaves and branches in the yard now.   

Yep me too. I was blowing leaves around and got mad it was taking so long so I went and bought the most powerful back pack blower from stihl and that thing will move a 3 pound rock! What was taking 20 minutes with old blower takes 5 now haha.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

And then for some dumb reason I thought of Jesse on here when I bought  the leaf blower because someone on here had mentioned he hates the sound of them I think. Funny how we remember stuff like that.

[TacomaWaWx]

4 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Latest first freeze I’ve had was 2016, turned out okay. We’re already in 2nd place though.

Latest freeze here is December 13th….2008. 

[TT-SEA]

4 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Latest first freeze I’ve had was 2016, turned out okay. We’re already in 2nd place though.

No freeze there yet?

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

And for some D**n reason I think of Tim whenever I see a palm tree around here hahaha. I told him that in a personal message couple years ago. 

[TT-SEA]

Just now, TacomaWaWx said:

Latest freeze here is December 13th….2008. 

Well there you go... a late freeze might actually be a really good thing.  

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

And for some D**n reason I think of Tim whenever I see a palm tree around here hahaha. I told him that in a personal message couple years ago. 

For the record... we have no palm trees in our yard!

[TacomaWaWx]

Just now, TT-SEA said:

Well there you go... a late freeze might actually be a really good thing.  

Yeah and then we didn’t hit the freezing mark until December 6th in 2016 and 2018. Both wound up being pretty solid. 

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

7 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

For the record... we have no palm trees in our yard!

I know haha.  I think it's your love for warm weather and all the tropical pics you post.  It's embedded into my brain. 

[TT-SEA]

I realize it does not work this way... but if you take out the last 2 weeks of June the rest of the summer was very close to normal in Seattle.     So 83% of the summer (10 out of 12 weeks) averaged close to normal.     The last 2 weeks of June skewed the entire season to the warm side up here.   I realize it was different down south.

[TigerWoodsLibido]

We’ve had just 1 freeze here back on Oct 12 and it was for like 30 mins and haven’t come close since.

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

I know haha.  I think it's your love for warm weather and all the tropical pics you post.  It's embedded into my brain. 

Sorry about that.   

[Phil]

28 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Well it wasn't.   The first half of June was unusually wet and chilly and then July and August were close to normal in the Seattle area.    I think this might be more related to you preferring drizzle and clouds and temps below 65 all summer which is not really climo here.  

 

[TT-SEA]

6 minutes ago, Phil said:

 

The first half of June was -1.0 and then July was +0.9 and August was +0.1 

But the last 2 weeks of June averaged +9.5

 

 

[Tyler Mode]

Final mow for the yard…hopefully. Was very interesting to have a yellow jacket buzzing around…

I hit freezing back on October 12th, but haven't been below 36 since.
Most of the trees around here dropped their leaves very rapidly, which in a way is a blessing for clean-up at least.

[TT-SEA]

Just now, Tyler Mode said:

Final mow for the yard…hopefully. Was very interesting to have a yellow jacket buzzing around…

I hit freezing back on October 12th, but haven't been below 36 since.
Most of the trees around here dropped their leaves very rapidly, which in a way is a blessing for clean-up at least.

All set for accumulating snow!    Short grass in the winter is a must. 

[Omegaraptor]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

My wife said it was sunny at home, but it's cloudy down here in Salem. 

Sunny here in Corvallis

[Tyler Mode]

3 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

All set for accumulating snow!    Short grass in the winter is a must. 

So true...last February though, it didn't matter!

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Our yard is a bit of a mud pit right now. 18” of rain since mid September. About 6” above average for that span. 

[Omegaraptor]

Night of 2/12/21. There’s a certain warm fuzzy feeling this picture gives me that no amount of mountain snow can accomplish.

[Deweydog]

11 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

Night of 2/12/21. There’s a certain warm fuzzy feeling this picture gives me that no amount of mountain snow can accomplish.

Jesse messaged me on MySpace and asked me to downvote this post.