Omegaraptor Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Joshua Lake Oswego said: I was about 3 miles too far south in February. I ended up with an inch or two of snow followed by at least an inch of ZR. It was brutal. Meanwhile, areas north of the Clackamas County line in the metro area got much more snow and much less freezing rain. Still damaging elsewhere, but I was in a terrible spot since I was far enough north to remain below freezing, but far enough south to not be influenced enough by the cold air pumping out of the Columbia Gorge. Remember driving to Silver Falls in March (or was it April). Nearly every oak tree in north Marion County had damaged or broken limbs. My area didn't do the best in the metro but certainly didn't do the worst either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 5 hours ago, Phil said: You’d love the dolly sods. One of the most dynamic climates in the world that nobody knows about. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolly_Sods_Wilderness It’s so windy up there all the trees are flagged in one direction, and in some places they can’t grow at all. Regularly see gusts in the 70-100mph range in the winter. And frequent severe weather in the summer. Crazy-- didn't even know of this place's existence let alone its climate. Really cool location, and really gorgeous as well. 1 Quote "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Lake Oswego Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Deweydog said: The Columbia Gorge was the reason you were below freezing. Areas more influenced by the east gorge wind were able to hold off the warm tongue of air overhead longer. Locations including West Linn, Tualatin, Tigard, Wilsonville, Lake Oswego, Oregon City were in the wrong spot. Further south had the cold air scoured out quicker and had some plain old rain. To the north had more snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 Just now, Joshua Lake Oswego said: Areas more influenced by the east gorge wind were able to hold off the warm tongue of air overhead longer. Areas including West Linn, Tualatin, Tigard, Wilsonville, Lake Oswego, Oregon City, were in the wrong spot. Further south had the cold air scoured out quicker and had some plain old rain. To the north had more snow. The gorge has very little if any influence on the mid levels when it comes to moderate/strong warm advection events like 2/12/21. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, Joshua Lake Oswego said: Areas more influenced by the east gorge wind were able to hold off the warm tongue of air overhead longer. Areas including West Linn, Tualatin, Tigard, Wilsonville, Lake Oswego, Oregon City were in the wrong spot. Further south had the cold air scoured out quicker and had some plain old rain. To the north had more snow. We haven't had a sub-freezing high in almost half a decade. At least you got one of those. You also haven't had 25 double-digit positive temp departures since your last double-digit negative temp departure, which is where we're at. We've also only had 5 total days with a high temp below 40F in the last 2 years. And our most recent temp down into the mid-20s was back in October of 2020. It could be worse. 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LowerGarfield Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 Hail or graupel at my house. VID_20211116_155555668.mp4 5 Quote Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA: 2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24. Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24 Days with trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel) First Freeze: 10/27/2023 Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24) Coldest low: -12F (!!!!!!!!) (1/12/24) Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bainbridgekid Posted November 17, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 Gorgeous rainbow right over the school at dismissal today. 16 1 Quote Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation) Snow since February 2019: 91" 2023-24: 6" 2022-23: 17.5" 2021-22: 17.75" 2020-21: 14.5” 2019-20: 10.5" 2018-19: 24.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 23 minutes ago, bainbridgekid said: Gorgeous rainbow right over the school at dismissal today. Just noticed a rainbow on the space needle cam... same little cell moving SE. 2 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 I was watching that cell on the radar and hoping it missed SEA... would not want to ruin the 0.00 day! Of course tomorrow is a lock for another one. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: You had more snow than I did last winter. It happens that way sometimes. Corvallis and Eugene had more snow than we did in 2013-14. Interesting, my current area had more snow than you in both winters. I had 15.5" last winter and about 14" in 2013-14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, BLI snowman said: Interesting, my current area had more snow than you in both winters. I had 15.5" last winter and about 14" in 2013-14. Pretty much all of our snow last winter fell between January 20th and February 3rd. We were in the freezing rain zone during the big event, but being at the very top of the cooler column we had significantly less ice than the valley, so the damage wasn’t to bad. Didn’t keep us from being without power for nearly two weeks though. But anyways, we just didn’t have very many cool maritime air masses, or borderline elevation dependent snow situations last winter. Obviously the February event was a snow stopper, but February and March 2020 had a lot more in the way of cool troughing. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 SEA is already down to 44... going to be a cold night. First hard freeze seems likely here... its mostly clear and calm right now. Although the ECMWF does show the east wind picking up overnight. 2 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 11 hours ago, ShawniganLake said: I heard the flooding in the town of Merritt, 7000 people evacuated, was so extreme that it likely exceeded a 200 year flood projection. I actually visited that town once. Spent the night and everything. Nice place. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 Totally clear and already down to 42. Might get a two for the price of one freeze tonight. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 5 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Here is a classic question for this group. When it is snowing, do you go outside and take a walk, soaking in the moment, or do you stare wistfully at the radar, knowing the back edge is only 45 minutes away? Both. Sometimes I stop watching the radar and let myself be surprised in certain situations. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 36 after a high of 43. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: 36 after a high of 43. Finally a real chill for your area. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerfylicious Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 11 hours ago, TT-SEA said: We might have an ECMWF snow map issue. Something has changed. It seems to be way too generous with amounts lately... now in 2 totally different situations. It got close to be fair 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, smerfylicious said: It got close to be fair No... that is a straight up failure for the ECMWF. This is what the 00Z ECMWF showed yesterday evening for last night and this morning. There was no accumulating snow in the lowlands anywhere. The ECMWF has been surprisingly bad so far this fall... worse than I have ever seen. Even the Kuchera map showed accumulating snow in the same area... just less. 2 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blob Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Joshua Lake Oswego said: I was about 3 miles too far south in February. I ended up with an inch or two of snow followed by at least an inch of ZR. It was brutal. Meanwhile, areas north of the Clackamas County line in the metro area got much more snow and much less freezing rain. Still damaging elsewhere, but I was in a terrible spot since I was far enough north to remain below freezing, but far enough south to not be influenced enough by the cold air pumping out of the Columbia Gorge. That's why I love that my job is at the mouth of the gorge. Good chances of getting paid to stay home. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerGarfield Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 Finally got my NWS Spotter ID after a few weeks. My CoCoRahs gauge is in IL so I wouldn't mind a few days of no precip for now. 5 Quote Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA: 2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24. Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24 Days with trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel) First Freeze: 10/27/2023 Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24) Coldest low: -12F (!!!!!!!!) (1/12/24) Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard777 Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 6 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Here is a classic question for this group. When it is snowing, do you go outside and take a walk, soaking in the moment, or do you stare wistfully at the radar, knowing the back edge is only 45 minutes away? Once it begins I don’t want to see the radar and try to just enjoy it. Of course I chime in here and scroll quickly past any radar post! Sometimes hard to do 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewCulverJosh Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 Rex block mentioned the last couple days via nws. Does this crap ever end here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, TheNewCulverJosh said: Rex block mentioned the last couple days via nws. Does this crap ever end here? The overall pattern has been very active since the middle of September... blocks do happen at times when the pattern relaxes. We can't have a raging jet stream all the time... its not how the world works. You live on the desert side of the Cascade crest so you might not notice the difference between a very active pattern and a blocking pattern. But in western WA the difference can be night and day. 3 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bainbridgekid Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 6 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Here is a classic question for this group. When it is snowing, do you go outside and take a walk, soaking in the moment, or do you stare wistfully at the radar, knowing the back edge is only 45 minutes away? To me forecasting snow is just as fun as experiencing it, so it’s a balance of both. I try not to get so sucked into the radar that I miss out on losing myself in the snow, but I can’t relax and enjoy it without having a pretty good idea how long it will keep up and how much will fall. 3 Quote Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation) Snow since February 2019: 91" 2023-24: 6" 2022-23: 17.5" 2021-22: 17.75" 2020-21: 14.5” 2019-20: 10.5" 2018-19: 24.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/16/weather/abbotsford-northwest-storm-records-climate/index.html 1 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, bainbridgekid said: To me forecasting snow is just as fun as experiencing it, so it’s a balance of both. I try not to get so sucked into the radar that I miss out on losing myself in the snow, but I can’t relax and enjoy it without having a pretty good idea how long it will keep up and how much will fall. Yeah... you are definitely a radar hawk along with me. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Deweydog said: https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/16/weather/abbotsford-northwest-storm-records-climate/index.html I was just going to mention this article. Climate change whiplash! 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, TT-SEA said: No... that is a straight up failure for the ECMWF. This is what the 00Z ECMWF showed yesterday evening for last night and this morning. There was no accumulating snow in the lowlands anywhere. The ECMWF has been surprisingly bad so far this fall... worse than I have ever seen. Even the Kuchera map showed accumulating snow in the same area... just less. Yeah I even drove up past my neighbors on the hill and went to the highest point which is just over 800ft, it was almost pure snow falling but zero accumulation. 3 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Deweydog said: https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/16/weather/abbotsford-northwest-storm-records-climate/index.html Mudbath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 Down to 33 already! Any cold sensitive plants that have hung on so far will be toast by the morning. 2 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 Down to 38 now. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 I normally don’t root for an episode of ridging, but I am now rooting for an episode of ridging. 2 1 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 The cold front brought high clouds all the way to Southern California overnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, bainbridgekid said: To me forecasting snow is just as fun as experiencing it, so it’s a balance of both. I try not to get so sucked into the radar that I miss out on losing myself in the snow, but I can’t relax and enjoy it without having a pretty good idea how long it will keep up and how much will fall. My absolute favorite thing is when the precip looks like it's going to run out, but it starts to backfill out of nowhere. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Mode Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: That's intense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, Rubus Leucodermis said: I normally don’t root for an episode of ridging, but I am now rooting for an episode of ridging. It will be a chance to get some chilly weather too. Ridging in a La Nina November is fine....especially after the soaking we've been through. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewCulverJosh Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 27 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: The overall pattern has been very active since the middle of September... blocks do happen at times when the pattern relaxes. We can't have a raging jet stream all the time... its not how the world works. You live on the desert side of the Cascade crest so you might not notice the difference between a very active pattern and a blocking pattern. But in western WA the difference can be night and day. You act like I have no idea. I lived 40+ plus years on that side of the mountains. 13+ of them were in Western WA. Just seems like the Rex block/ridging patterns set up way too often these days in Dec/Jan....and I could be wrong. Probably just my yearning for a good "middle of the winter" pattern to finally set up. Screw Turkey Day action......too early, even over here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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