PNW November 2021 Wx Obs/Discussion

[SnowWillarrive]

3 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

A lot of people moving to Spokane it seems. 

Perfect weather with lots of snow. 

[snow_wizard]

5 minutes ago, snow drift said:

We're near 60 on the 1st and in the 50s on the 2nd.

And then it plunges.

BTW...1861 had number like that in early Dec as well.  It means nothing.

[Cloud]

6 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

A lot of people moving to Spokane it seems. 

Spokane has always been an area of my interest for quite a while without needing to leave the state. Weather-wise I think it’s great but in general, I think the Seattle area is a shiitshow. Not what it was 20-30 years ago. 

I’m also at a point where I don’t want to be on pins and needles looking at the models constantly for a shot of cold air, then to have it be completely marginal. 

[paulb/eugene]

This is screenshot from Dec 1 2008 Kptv weather blog from Portland

[Snownerd3000]

3 minutes ago, paulb/eugene said:

This is screenshot from Dec 1 2008 Kptv weather blog from Portland

great share!

[SouthHillFrosty]

2 minutes ago, Cloud said:

Spokane has always been an area of my interest for quite a while without needing to leave the state. Weather-wise I think it’s great but in general, I think the Seattle area is a shiitshow. Not what it was 20-30 years ago. 

Everybody is moving to the pnw. The pnw is the place to be

[snow_wizard]

Interesting.  The MJO forecast shows a more robust wave developing than earlier runs.  That could be the reason for the improved model trends today.

[Skagit Weather]

At 10.81" for the month currently. Rain has stopped, but kind of hoping for it to pick up again in the last few hours of the month. Might as well hit 11" since I'm so close.

[Deweydog]

10 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

A lot of people moving to Spokane it seems. 

POSSIBLY this summer…

[snow_wizard]

2 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

Everybody is moving to the pnw. The pnw is the place to be

Seattle is a hell hole now, but in general the area is decent.  I think you are overstating how many people are moving here.  A lot of other areas are doing well also.  Locals fall into the trap of thinking this is the best place on Earth.  I like it east of the Cascades a lot better.

[AlTahoe]

17 minutes ago, Cloud said:

A little bit of personal news on my end… I haven’t been able to be around the forums or been active as much last few weeks because we’ve been busy working with an agent in looking for a new house. Just today we put in a bid for a nice/decent house over in the Spokane area. We honestly don’t know if we’ll end up getting the bid but I’m excited at the prospect of going to a location that will feature more snowy weather in the wintertime. 

If this don’t work out we’ll continue to keep looking. I love W. Wa but I want to be where I can get cold/snow during the right season. 

Nice. I have been lurking on the Spokane subreddit. Seems like a lot of all cash bidding wars still going on over there in the sub $325k range. Be wary of cheap flips and good luck. 

[snow_wizard]

2 minutes ago, Skagit Weather said:

At 10.81" for the month currently. Rain has stopped, but kind of hoping for it to pick up again in the last few hours of the month. Might as well hit 11" since I'm so close.

I was disappointed how the rainfall pretty much busted here last weekend.  Still a very wet November, but it could have been historic.  Amazingly wet when you consider how often we were shadowed though.

[AlTahoe]

14 minutes ago, snow drift said:

Cold water to the face...I did winterize the car. I flushed the radiator, got a new battery, replaced my tires, and had my front breaks serviced. Let's go!

I am not going to throw my snow tires on until I see a 12" snow storm within 72 hours. 

[snow_wizard]

1 minute ago, AlTahoe said:

Nice. I have been lurking on the Spokane subreddit. Seems like a lot of all cash bidding wars still going on over there in the sub $325k range. Be wary of cheap flips and good luck. 

It's almost to the point you have to get off the beaten path to get a deal over there now.  Still some cheap stuff if you go out a ways.

[snow_wizard]

5 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

POSSIBLY this summer…

You too?

That is one place my wife is open to when the time is right.

[snow_wizard]

13 minutes ago, Cloud said:

Spokane has always been an area of my interest for quite a while without needing to leave the state. Weather-wise I think it’s great but in general, I think the Seattle area is a shiitshow. Not what it was 20-30 years ago. 

I’m also at a point where I don’t want to be on pins and needles looking at the models constantly for a shot of cold air, then to have it be completely marginal. 

In actuality there are places in Central WA that are snowier and a lot closer to Seattle if you have family you need to visit.  Obviously Spokane is the only REAL city east of the Cascades though.

[LowerGarfield]

1 hour ago, van city said:

Here you go. 

They should call that the Canadian model lol jk.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

I run in more conservative circles. I only know people fleeing the PNW to Idaho or Texas. Personally the insane real estate market tempers my desire to move. I'm locked into a really affordable mortgage. I have lots of equity, but with how expensive things are in the West I would have to move to the midwest to buy something with cash. Would have been good to see the writing on the wall for this region and have bought in Idaho back in 2018 or so. The PNW is easily the worst place in the country outside maybe California, if I was 10 years younger just starting out, or didn't own a home there is no way I would stay here. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I run in more conservative circles. I only know people fleeing the PNW to Idaho or Texas. Personally the insane real estate market tempers my desire to move. I'm locked into a really affordable mortgage. I have lots of equity, but with how expensive things are in the West I would have to move to the midwest to buy something with cash. Would have been good to see the writing on the wall for this region and have bought in Idaho back in 2018 or so. The PNW is easily the worst place in the country outside maybe California, if I was 10 years younger just starting out, or didn't own a home there is no way I would stay here. 

That's a bit hyperbolic... I've been to Rhode Island and New Jersey, they are both way worse than the PNW...

[smerfylicious]

9 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

In actuality there are places in Central WA that are snowier and a lot closer to Seattle if you have family you need to visit.  Obviously Spokane is the only REAL city east of the Cascades though.

The great metropolis of Othello is disappointed in you. Dont you know? They have a taco bell. Thats the bar for a great city. 

[LowerGarfield]

5 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I run in more conservative circles. I only know people fleeing the PNW to Idaho or Texas. Personally the insane real estate market tempers my desire to move. I'm locked into a really affordable mortgage. I have lots of equity, but with how expensive things are in the West I would have to move to the midwest to buy something with cash. Would have been good to see the writing on the wall for this region and have bought in Idaho back in 2018 or so. The PNW is easily the worst place in the country outside maybe California, if I was 10 years younger just starting out, or didn't own a home there is no way I would stay here. 

Lots of folks we know moving to Idaho. Idaho side of Spokane is even more expensive than WA side. Not getting into politics but it is quite noticible. We almost bought a house on the Camas Prairie by Grangeville. We would have been more isolated than we are now but they have a lot of early season snow and are the local winners in my region.

[SouthHillFrosty]

26 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Seattle is a hell hole now, but in general the area is decent.  I think you are overstating how many people are moving here.  A lot of other areas are doing well also.  Locals fall into the trap of thinking this is the best place on Earth.  I like it east of the Cascades a lot better.

The area is booming west and east of the Cascades. I got a lot of friends all over the country that are all moving/moved to the Seattle general area for Tech. There is so much money in tech rn it’s insane 

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

The area is booming west and east of the Cascades. I got a lot of friends all over the country that are all moving/moved to the Seattle general area for Tech. There is so much money in tech rn it’s insane 

Yeah... real estate prices in the Seattle area certainly don't say there is a mass exodus going on.   Pretty much the opposite.

[AlTahoe]

5 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

The area is booming west and east of the Cascades. I got a lot of friends all over the country that are all moving/moved to the Seattle general area for Tech. There is so much money in tech rn it’s insane 

Yep any area outside of mega cities that have nature or land are exploding. Some perspective of where the money is coming from. The bay area has over 7 million people and the average home price is now over 1 million. San Jose average home price is $1.3 million. Most people bought after the 2008 market crash in the 300 to 600k range. Lots of equity to buy cash somewhere else and not have to worry about a mortgage. I never thought my house would be worth 4 times what I paid for it in 2010. Now I am looking at buying a place with cash so i don't have to worry about a mortgage, but I would have to get in line. Crazy times. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

9 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Yeah... real estate prices in the Seattle area certainly don't say there is a mass exodus going on.   Pretty much the opposite.

No one who is actually from the PNW wants to live here anymore. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Wow... A real chance for something big the week of Christmas. 

[FroYoBro]

2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

No one who is actually from the PNW wants to live here anymore. 

K

[AlTahoe]

4 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

No one who is actually from the PNW wants to live here anymore. 

People with the money want to live there. Same with Vancouver. If I could afford Vancouver I would love to live there. 

[SouthHillFrosty]

5 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

No one who is actually from the PNW wants to live here anymore. 

I plan on buying or building a house in the Issaquah/ North Bend area in the next ten years. Gotta work hella’ to able to afford it tho

[TT-SEA]

7 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

No one who is actually from the PNW wants to live here anymore. 

That is not true... I know plenty of natives who aren't planning on leaving.  At least as far as I know. 

Most everyone who lives in the same area where they grew up inevitably complains about changes.   My relatives in MN do the same exact thing.   One of my co-workers was born and raised in Denver and he says everything has changed and he wants out.   Its universal.   The grass is always greener some place else.    But it's usually not.   Its just different.

[snow_wizard]

1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Wow... A real chance for something big the week of Christmas. 

Things seem to be converging on that idea.  A white Christmas would be awesome.  It would move Seattle into the next percentile bracket on the White Christmas probability map.  That would make 1990, 2008, 2017, and 2021 in a little over 30 years.  Better than 10% chance.

[snow_wizard]

1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

That is not true... I know plenty of natives who aren't planning on leaving.  At least as far as I know. 

Most everyone who lives in the same area where they grew up inevitably complains about changes.   My relatives in MN do the same exact thing.   One of my co-workers was born and raised in Denver and he says everything has changed and he wants out.   Its universal.   The grass is always greener some place else. 

It really has been heartbreaking to see Seattle go down the crapper though.  Just horrible.  For me though it's the gloom, the lack of cold (most years), and too many people now.

[The Swamp]

Do any of you remember Baghdad Bob from the Iraq Gulf War?  The memes are a great look see and so is some of the video.

As US Marines were entering Baghdad and had taken over he wailed and wailed at the CNN camera crew that the invaders had been turned back at the gates and that the Iraqi Air Force was knocking our jets out of the air.

Classics.  Just classics.

Oh look, the 384 our GFS shows snow.  Well D**n folks, get out the snow shovels.  It's gonna happen.  No.  IT'S HAPPENING.........Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[TT-SEA]

Just now, snow_wizard said:

It really has been heartbreaking to see Seattle go down the crapper though.  Just horrible.  For me though it's the gloom, the lack of cold (most years), and too many people now.

Yes... the city of Seattle is straight up depressing now.   I don't even want to bring guests there.   Its absolutely embarrassing.    I pray that the people of Seattle are waking up now.   

[snow_wizard]

1 minute ago, The Swamp said:

Do any of you remember Baghdad Bob from the Iraq Gulf War?  The memes are a great look see and so is some of the video.

As US Marines were entering Baghdad and had taken over he wailed and wailed at the CNN camera crew that the invaders had been turned back at the gates and that the Iraqi Air Force was knocking our jets out of the air.

Classics.  Just classics.

Oh look, the 384 our GFS shows snow.  Well D**n folks, get out the snow shovels.  It's gonna happen.  No.  IT'S HAPPENING.........Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

CNN = Communist News Network.

[SalemDuck]

Last night’s extended GEFS control run is a Jan 1950 type run.

[SouthHillFrosty]

1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

CNN = Communist News Network.

Yea Seattle needs to get fixed. It’s horrific rn.

Jim you lose IQ points when you post stupid shiit like this 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Yes... the city of Seattle is straight up depressing now.   I don't even want to bring guests there.   Its absolutely embarrassing.    I pray that the people of Seattle are waking up now.   

How about that GEFS extended run. 

[Cloud]

28 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Yeah... real estate prices in the Seattle area certainly don't say there is a mass exodus going on.   Pretty much the opposite.

There is definitely not a mass exodus for the area but at the same time I’m not also of a fan on the people coming in either. I guess I’m just an old school Seattleite — I love what my city used to be. And to actually not to get too far off topic from weather related stuff…. the homelessness and the crazy stuff around here is completely out of control. 
 

im very fortunate to be in the tech industry but as long as it remains booming here, people will keep on coming. 

[Requiem]

15 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

No one who is actually from the PNW wants to live here anymore. 

Lived here my whole life, and honestly thus far don't see myself really moving away from the west coast. If I can ever afford it, would love to live in and around the Issaquah/Gold Bar area up in Washington, or even in the Bend area. I do love Portland and W. Oregon with all my heart but it would be nice for a change of atmosphere.