PNW November 2021 Wx Obs/Discussion

[Omegaraptor]

5 minutes ago, Phil said:

Blathering aside, unlikely we repeat 1999/00. I’m still bullish on a real -PNA/GOA High establishing during mid/late December.

Might not be amplified enough for a true arctic blast, but it should be close. I’d definitely like my chances in the northern areas as it could be a gradient situation.

Praying for TWL.

I’ll be in Sunriver from Dec 23-30. Gonna try to ski at Bachelor every day. A lot more comfortable being below 44°N when at 4200’ east of the Cascades...

December 2016 was wild there. Got two -7 mornings and the month was a -6 departure but apparently it was on the southern edge of big cold. Klamath Falls was like -1 and from Lassen County southwards it was a warm month. Jan 2017 spread the wealth all the way down the coast though.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

4 minutes ago, Phil said:

Blathering aside, unlikely we repeat 1999/00. I’m still bullish on a real -PNA/GOA High establishing during mid/late December.

Might not be amplified enough for a true arctic blast, but it should be close. I’d definitely like my chances in the northern areas as it could be a gradient situation.

Praying for TWL.

Would really blow if we had a 3rd winter in a row with an extreme N/S gradient

[TacomaWaWx]

0.07” so far. 46/40 today. 

[TacomaWaWx]

We’re +2.5 so far this month…looks cooler overall than what we’ve seen so far this month (obviously since it’s late November now) but still seems like a good bet we end up above normal in temperatures as well as precipitation. 
 Still yet to get a freezing low temp here too so we may have to wait until December for that…which is a bit unusual but I’m fine with a warmer than normal November that usually ends up well for us. 

[Skagit Weather]

34 minutes ago, MossMan said:

I really enjoyed Nov 2010, unfortunately all of my pics are on my old Android phone that completely died, and that was the time before the cloud. I would have been okay dokey with a redux.  

November 2010 was tragic up here. Less than an inch with the arrival of the arctic front that disappeared pretty quickly and like 2" on the overrunning event at the end. The temperatures were sure cold, but snow was pretty lacking. Of course three months later more than made up for it.

[Gradient Keeper]

48 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I will NEVER forget Thanksgiving 2010. My ex-wife and I went down to the bar in downtown Silverton the night before, she was not much of a drinker, but for whatever reason she went all out that night. The next day she wanted my buddy to take pictures of us in the snow up at Silver Falls for Christmas cards. About 2 miles from the park she demanded he pull over and she stumbled out into the snow face planted and vomited for about 15 minutes. Came back to the car, we took the pics, and then went back to town. Later we went to my Dad's for Thanksgiving, and she just laid on his couch the entire time... We ended up having to re-take the pics for the Christmas cards. 

That is phenomenal. This sounds like a plot to one of those fancy Lifetime Christmas movies.

[TacomaWaWx]

2 minutes ago, Skagit Weather said:

November 2010 was tragic up here. Less than an inch with the arrival of the arctic front that disappeared pretty quickly and like 2" on the overrunning event at the end. The temperatures were sure cold, but snow was pretty lacking. Of course three months later more than made up for it.

You got nailed in February 2011 huh? I was one of the lucky winners that time too. Had 7” of snow…and some places a few miles away had little or none. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Noticed in Robs FB group that Bethel Alaska broke a record low from... 1999...

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Rain moving in... 

[T-Town]

41 with a northeast wind at Tacoma Narrows. Chilly. 

[Deweydog]

I’ve been listening to this on my discman all week:

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Was actually pretty warm up here today. 54/39. 

[BLI snowman]

26 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said:

You got nailed in February 2011 huh? I was one of the lucky winners that time too. Had 7” of snow…and some places a few miles away had little or none. 

The czone with that front on the 23rd was truly major in Skagit County. Really nailed a small area with 20-30" of snow in a short time. Some of the heaviest rates I've seen in the PNW

https://komonews.com/news/local/snow-buries-parts-of-region-leaves-rest-unscathed

[TacomaWaWx]

1 minute ago, BLI snowman said:

The czone with that front on the 23rd was truly major in Skagit County. Really nailed a small area with 20-30" of snow in a short time. Some of the heaviest rates I've seen in the PNW

https://komonews.com/news/local/snow-buries-parts-of-region-leaves-rest-unscathed

I think that same night we got hit by a pretty heavy band of snow too. I was 11 about to turn 12 at the time but I remember it pretty well could barely see across the street for a couple hours. Think we had about 4” of snow in 3 hours. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Silver Falls Hwy in the park on 2/25/11. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

East of Eugene on President's Day 2011 about 1800' I believe, we tried to get to the hot springs, but the road was snowed in past this point. If we had made it perhaps our marriage would have been saved. 

[T-Town]

23 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

I’ve been listening to this on my discman all week:

I had to go check the track listing - https://www.nowmusic.com/albums/now-thats-what-i-call-music-1999-the-millennium-series/. 
 

Looks torturous. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

1 minute ago, T-Town said:

I had to go check the track listing - https://www.nowmusic.com/albums/now-thats-what-i-call-music-1999-the-millennium-series/. 
 

Looks torturous. 

Wow I was in high school and consuming pop music like a fiend, and I only remember 4-5 of those songs. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Going down memory lane now. This was early February 2011 at Butte Creek Falls. I've never been able to figure out how to get back there since they closed the access road I took this time. I know the Beachie Creek Fire got into this drainage, but I heard the falls didn't burn. Very beautiful area. 

[Gradient Keeper]

8 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Going down memory lane now. This was early February 2011 at Butte Creek Falls. I've never been able to figure out how to get back there since they closed the access road I took this time. I know the Beachie Creek Fire got into this drainage, but I heard the falls didn't burn. Very beautiful area. 

Looks amazing and very fishable.

[bainbridgekid]

Everett is down to 39 degrees with moderate rain and a North wind at 4 PM. Definitely would have been a great snowstorm with halfway decent cold air in place with the track this storm is taking.

[TT-SEA]

Its raining and the radar shows widespread rain... but the sky just turned red here as the sun is setting.    Sort of strange since that usually only happens when we are near the back edge of the precip as the sun is going down.

[Skagit Weather]

1 hour ago, TacomaWaWx said:

You got nailed in February 2011 huh? I was one of the lucky winners that time too. Had 7” of snow…and some places a few miles away had little or none. 

Yeah, best winter day I think I've ever experienced. Consistent 3"/hr rates dropped 8" of snow in the morning right as I woke up and I got to enjoy the whole day before the main event came through. I was in Mount Vernon that night sledding when the mother of all snow convergence zones moved in. I caught the beginning of the 6"/hr rates which dropped 18" in a little over 3 hours in town. I-5 shut down as cars were buried in the snow and couldn't be cleared until morning. At home I only picked up another 3.5" that night, but that still made for almost a foot on the ground.

Of course every event for the next nine years underperformed up here until January 2020 so I was paying off my snow debt for a long time. My location went eight years (until February 2019) without a single storm >3" of snow.

[Skagit Weather]

Just now, TT-SEA said:

Its raining and the radar shows widespread rain... but the sky just turned red here as the sun is setting.    Sort of strange since that usually only happens when we are near the back edge of the precip as the sun is going down.

Same thing just happened here, but I couldn't figure it out. Whole sky was reddish purple, but it was clouds and rain as far as the eye could see.

[Gradient Keeper]

18z GEFS. Ridge merger Day 11. Block develops, but positive anomaly a bit too far west, for now. Pacific jet dead which is the #1 factor. All signs in the right direction. Here we go!

[Gradient Keeper]

35 minutes ago, T-Town said:

I had to go check the track listing - https://www.nowmusic.com/albums/now-thats-what-i-call-music-1999-the-millennium-series/. 
 

Looks torturous. 

Wow what awful music LOL. Let's see 1999-2000 I was listening to Metal, Bass Music, Classic Rock, some rap No Limit stuff mainly.

[snow drift]

Lenny Kravitz and the New Radicals

[Gradient Keeper]

Arctic Sea Ice

This is the best I've seen in a very, very long time. We're edging a touch closer to the 1981-2010 average which would be great and no longer hugging the bottom of the -2 standard deviation line. Let's keep it building!

[TigerWoodsLibido]

40 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Wow I was in high school and consuming pop music like a fiend, and I only remember 4-5 of those songs. 

That's because that album was primarily produced for the UK and those tunes were more popular there. Believe it or not, a lot of those tracks later on the album are pretty decent trance tracks and a lot better than most of the stuff on the radio today. Gouryella was great back then. Tiesto and Ferry Corsten are 2 of the most respected DJs of all time. We just don't hear them much because the American record companies don't want us to hear it.

That said, my favorite vibe right now is the night drive, neon lights 80s retrowave sound that's become increasingly popular over the last decade.

[Brian_in_Leavenworth]

Getting our first real snow of the season  now.  Supposed to get 3-5 inches.  Had a few flurries and a trace in the last 2 weeks.

Leavenworth has several live YouTube streaming feeds.  This is one of them:

 

[Gradient Keeper]

6 minutes ago, snow drift said:

Lenny Kravitz and the New Radicals

I don't mind Lenny. OH I overlooked Spice Girls too, said NO ONE.

00z ECMWF in 4 hours 56 minutes

[RentonHill]

Snow in twisp started very light around 3pm, now picking up 

 

 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

8 minutes ago, Brian_in_Leavenworth said:

Getting our first real snow of the season  now.  Supposed to get 3-5 inches.  Had a few flurries and a trace in the last 2 weeks.

Leavenworth has several live YouTube streaming feeds.  This is one of them:

 

If I show this to my wife she will demand we drive up this weekend.

 

[Gradient Keeper]

17 minutes ago, RentonHillTC said:

Snow in twisp started very light around 3pm, now picking up 

 

No video. At least not for me. I wanna see snow! I wanna see SNOW!

[Anti Marine Layer]

[Joshua Lake Oswego]

29 minutes ago, Brian_in_Leavenworth said:

Getting our first real snow of the season  now.  Supposed to get 3-5 inches.  Had a few flurries and a trace in the last 2 weeks.

Leavenworth has several live YouTube streaming feeds.  This is one of them:

 

Awesome! We head up there every year between Christmas and the New Year. It’s a sh*t show, but that’s part of the deal. Such a beautiful area. Enjoy.

[RentonHill]

13 minutes ago, DJ Droppin said:

No video. At least not for me. I wanna see snow! I wanna see SNOW!

huh. i will try a different format. works for me on mobile and on desktop. 

[MossMan]

49 minutes ago, Skagit Weather said:

Yeah, best winter day I think I've ever experienced. Consistent 3"/hr rates dropped 8" of snow in the morning right as I woke up and I got to enjoy the whole day before the main event came through. I was in Mount Vernon that night sledding when the mother of all snow convergence zones moved in. I caught the beginning of the 6"/hr rates which dropped 18" in a little over 3 hours in town. I-5 shut down as cars were buried in the snow and couldn't be cleared until morning. At home I only picked up another 3.5" that night, but that still made for almost a foot on the ground.

Of course every event for the next nine years underperformed up here until January 2020 so I was paying off my snow debt for a long time. My location went eight years (until February 2019) without a single storm >3" of snow.

We were on the southern edge of that February 2011 epicness!! Think we ended up with about 16” for that event. Sure was fun!! 

[MossMan]

Had positive splats at work when the precip started earlier! 

[T-Town]