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Just now, TacomaWaWx said:

It’s pretty windy at times here…think it’ll be the biggest windstorm since 1/6/19. 

Winds haven't started up yet in the valley-- think it'll be pretty quick going from calm to windy.

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3 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

I had to look up pedantic... I think I have the same syndrome.   😀

Pedantic is an insulting word used to describe someone who annoys others by correcting small errors, caring too much about minor details, or emphasizing their own expertise especially in some narrow or boring subject matter.

Only in the summer. ;)

I think you’re the only one who actually enjoyed the June heatwave.

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1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Some hope in the long range.

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For more warm, flooding rains?

Gotta wait until December, man. That’s when it gets fun.

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35 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Just amazing that we got all that rain and avoided major flooding.   It was just spread out enough here.

Imagine what would happen if a hurricane Harvey type situation happened in the PNW (IE: 60+” of rain in 4 days).

Would there be any surviving bridges/infrastructure? Would be some crazy topographic enhancements/etc as well so totals might even be higher w/ same PWATs.

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28 minutes ago, Jginmartini said:

Winds trending now more from the south and white caps have begun here in Redondo 

The Narrows is looking about as angry as I’ve seen it. Supposed to be working but what’s happening outside is a lot more interesting. 

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I don’t understand why motorists insist on driving through flood waters (or..next to steep terrain throwing boulders in the middle of a torrential rainstorm).

Turn around, don’t drown. Stay home, drink some coffee or cocoa, watch Netflix, or get busy. You don’t have to be out and about, save a real emergency.

The number of people killed in floods each year in the US is pathetically high. 

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6 minutes ago, Phil said:

Imagine what would happen if a hurricane Harvey type situation happened in the PNW (IE: 60+” of rain in 4 days).

Would there be any surviving bridges/infrastructure? Would be some crazy topographic enhancements/etc as well so totals might even be higher w/ same PWATs.

Similarly, can you imagine how crazy it would be if it hit -50F and started snowing sharks in Miami?

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Mark is predicting gusts rapidly ramping up at about 11-12 for Oregon folks. I'd imagine it should be a pretty fast run-up as a whole as that gradient tightens up and the front approaches.

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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

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1 minute ago, Phil said:

I don’t understand why motorists insist on driving through flood waters (or..next to steep terrain throwing boulders in the middle of a torrential rainstorm).

Turn around, don’t drown. Stay home, drink some coffee or cocoa, watch Netflix, or get busy. You don’t have to be out and about, save a real emergency.

The number of people killed in floods each year in the US is pathetically high. 

Actually just had a call go out on the scanner for the swift water rescue team, car got swept away with the driver still in it.  Sounds like it is up in the Nooksack/Sumas area.  I've never understood it either.

 

Just now said the person is out of the car an on higher ground.  They dodged a bullet.

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5 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Similarly, can you imagine how crazy it would be if it hit -50F and started snowing sharks in Miami?

Given some anomalous rossby wave packet w/ WPAC typhoon remnants involved, in tandem with steep orographic lifting, could it not actually happen?

Maybe not quite to that extent, but I think it could theoretically get much worse than this, under the right conditions? I’m still learning about the climate out there so maybe I’m full of it.

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4 minutes ago, Chewbacca Defense said:

995.9 here and still falling, another band of heavier rain just moved in.

 

 

Cold front is going to move through In the next hour and the pressure will begin rising again. That’ll be the strongest winds most likely. 

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Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Phil said:

Given some anomalous rossby wave packet w/ WPAC typhoon remnants involved, in tandem with steep orographic lifting, could it not actually happen?

Maybe not quite to that extent, but I think it could theoretically get much worse than this under the right conditions.

No, the NE Pacific is incapable of producing that much thermal/kinetic energy to drive up PWAT values that much. The record water temps off of our coast are maybe in the low to mid 60s. The GOM easily gets into the mid 80s in a warm year. 

The West Coast could probably support 24 hour precip totals of 15-20" in our most orographically favored areas in an extreme event. We're not going to see 60" of rain from a storm.

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1 minute ago, North_County said:

Guys, it's really not great here right now. A couple more steps and I'll be evacuating to the second floor. Hating this.1115211104_HDR.thumb.jpg.9eb4ff28312b01d361a52dae5e402358.jpg1115211104a_HDR.thumb.jpg.b5e28b6c2058eabde3854d67c7f25cca.jpg

That’s really scary stuff. Is that your car? 

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Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Jginmartini said:

Noticed that as well…worst winds to come 

Pressure is 997.8 now…going to be a significant rise in pressure behind the cold front wouldn’t be surprised if the winds are stronger than expected. Have some portable batteries ready. 

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Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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Just now, North_County said:

Was my car.

Lol. Actually, it was toast already, and ive just been putting off getting it scrapped, so yeah. Not particularly worried about that one. I tried to move it last night, and it wouldnt start, so.....

That’s still really sad to see. Hopefully the flooding starts to recede soon. 

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Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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6 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

No, the NE Pacific is incapable of producing that much thermal/kinetic energy to drive up PWAT values that much. The record water temps off of our coast are maybe in the low to mid 60s. The GOM easily gets into the mid 80s in a warm year. 

The West Coast could probably support 24 hour precip totals of 15-20" in our most orographically favored areas in an extreme event. We're not going to see 60" of rain from a storm.

FWIW those GOA/NPAC waters were likely warm enough to make for an exothermic situation during the Holocene thermal maximum, averaged annually.

I’ll bet there were some crazy ARs up there while the Pyramids of Giza were being built.

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8 minutes ago, North_County said:

Guys, it's really not great here right now. A couple more steps and I'll be evacuating to the second floor. Hating this.1115211104_HDR.thumb.jpg.9eb4ff28312b01d361a52dae5e402358.jpg1115211104a_HDR.thumb.jpg.b5e28b6c2058eabde3854d67c7f25cca.jpg

Bro that sucks. Maybe start moving valuables and non-perishable food items upstairs?

Hoping for the best.

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4 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said:

Pressure is 997.8 now…going to be a significant rise in pressure behind the cold front wouldn’t be surprised if the winds are stronger than expected. Have some portable batteries ready. 

Yeah the pressure surge can aid vertical momentum transfer. Stay safe!

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1 minute ago, Phil said:

Bro that sucks. Maybe start moving valuables and non-perishable food items upstairs?

Hoping for the best.

Never can have too much water right Phil?   🙄

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2 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

2-3 weeks of 2007-08 or 1998-99 style cold NW flow would be the ideal pattern right now.

More ideal than a cross polar flow pattern like November 2010 or December 2008? 🤔

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2 minutes ago, Phil said:

Yeah the pressure surge can aid vertical momentum transfer. Stay safe!

Not much wind in this area yet, but judging by northerly reports we may not be out of the woods quite yet. If I'm to be correct it's the pressure rises guiding the strong gusts, no?

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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019.

 

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