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I haven't seen any damage estimates for this storm. Repairing a single stretch of washed-out highway can cost over a million dollars. 

I won't be surprised if this event turns out to be a billion-dollar disaster. 

Coquihalla Highway is one example. Skagit River won't crest until tomorrow afternoon. 

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Springfield, Oregon cold season 21-22 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 40F (Nov 21, 2021)
  • Coldest low: 30F (Nov 17, 2021)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 4 (Most recent: Nov 22, 2021)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 0 (Most recent: Dec 24, 2020)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F) *Longest streak without a sub-freezing high on record*
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: February 27, 2019
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 20.7"

 

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14 minutes ago, joelgombiner said:

I haven't seen any damage estimates for this storm. Repairing a single stretch of washed-out highway can cost over a million dollars. 

I won't be surprised if this event turns out to be a billion-dollar disaster. 

Coquihalla Highway is one example. Skagit River won't crest until tomorrow afternoon. 

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Yikes!  I can’t imagine what damage this AR event would of caused down here.  That’s just terrible 😞 

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11 minutes ago, Joshua Lake Oswego said:

Yes. More rain is always better except in extreme cases (like what we are seeing in N Washington and BC). 

Interesting... would you feel the same if there has been excess rain for many years and no drought?    Do you want it to rain every day all year long?     So if its raining all day at your house... your enjoyment of that is diminished if the actual rain at the airport is less than what the models showed?      These are all honest questions... just trying to understand.

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14 minutes ago, Joshua Lake Oswego said:

Yes. More rain is always better except in extreme cases (like what we are seeing in N Washington and BC). 

Side note... I always try to remember that the models changing doesn't really represent nature screwing us.    Nature does not care about attempts to predict nature.   Whatever happens was always going to happen no matter what our weather models showed beforehand.  

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14 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Interesting... would you feel the same if there has been excess rain for many years and no drought?    Do you want it to rain every day all year long?     So if its raining all day at your house... your enjoyment of that is diminished if the actual rain at the airport is less than what the models showed?      These are all honest questions... just trying to understand.

You're acting like that fancy word Jim used hahahaha.

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We come from the land of the ice and snow.

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Very ominous trends. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: T"                         2021-22: 23.25" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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9 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

Yea it’s not happening. If it’s showing Grey and being borderline, it won’t happen 

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Never underestimate the difference it makes around here when you have offshore flow in a cool airmass at night with decent precip rates. 

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Just now, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

You are acting like that fancy word Jim used hahahaha.

No... I am just curious about what people care about. 

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2 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Never underestimate the difference it makes around here when you have offshore flow in a cool airmass at night with decent precip rates. 

Big time... totally different rules.  

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1 minute ago, GHweatherChris said:

The top of my truck is frozen!!

You have precip around out there as well.  

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4 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Never underestimate the difference it makes around here when you have offshore flow in a cool airmass at night with decent precip rates. 

Yep, this has the markings of a decent chance of lowland snow in spots, unlike the bull shitt the Euro showed for the weekend before last.

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Just now, GHweatherChris said:

Yep, this has the markings of a decent chance of lowland snow in spots, unlike the bull shitt the Euro showed for the weekend before last.

It actually has potential to be a decent snowfall in favored locations.  And it's almost in believable range.

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Just now, GHweatherChris said:

Yep, this has the markings of a decent chance of lowland snow in spots, unlike the bull shitt the Euro showed for the weekend before last.

Totally agree... system moving inland to the south with light winds and a cold air mass in place seems to be at least a decent chance regardless of what the models show.

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The GFS shows only one shot of rain in the next 10 days.  A different regime is at hand now.

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 29

Lows 32 or below = 7

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 

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9 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Bright moon in an otherwise dark powerless night. 

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The first c-zone has faded now... the next one that develops is going to be farther north.   Don't discount your snow chances tonight.   I think that moon might disappear later.  👍

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33 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Interesting... would you feel the same if there has been excess rain for many years and no drought?    Do you want it to rain every day all year long?     So if its raining all day at your house... your enjoyment of that is diminished if the actual rain at the airport is less than what the models showed?      These are all honest questions... just trying to understand.

I wouldn’t mind some cool, sunny days sprinkled in during summer so I can play a few dry rounds of golf. Other than that, yes, I want it to rain every single day. Or, at least be dreary and ‘’wet’’. I care more about rain at my house than PDX, but, yes, my enjoyment is somewhat diminished if PDX or other local (NW Oregon) stations underperform. 

My ideal climate would be: 300+ days of rain. Maybe 100’’ - 150’’ total evenly spread out through the year. The temp would never exceed 65 or get below 20. Very few sunny days. Lots of fog and low clouds when not raining. Some wet, sticky snow here and there would be great. Moss, ferns, and massive conifers all over. Every square inch covered in green. Grass never dies.

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12 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

34 here and dropping! Was 55 last night at same time.

This was a pretty dynamic cold front.  I couldn't believe how much colder it was in the late afternoon vs lunch time.

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Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 29

Lows 32 or below = 7

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 

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1 minute ago, Joshua Lake Oswego said:

I wouldn’t mind some cool, sunny days sprinkled in during summer so I can play a few dry rounds of golf. Other than that, yes, I want it to rain every single day. Or, at least be dreary and ‘’wet’’. I care more about rain at my house than PDX, but, yes, my enjoyment is somewhat diminished if PDX or other local (NW Oregon) stations underperform. 

My ideal climate would be: 300+ days of rain. Maybe 100’’ - 150’’ total evenly spread out through the year. The temp would never exceed 65 or get below 20. Very few bell to bell sunshine days. Lots of fog and low clouds when not raining. Some wet, sticky snow here and there would be great. Moss, ferns, and massive conifers all over. Every square inch covered in green. Grass never dies.

Thanks for the detailed response.   I better understand now where you are coming from.  👍

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15 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Bright moon in an otherwise dark powerless night. 

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If you want, you can borrow my Gameboy to pass the time while the power is out. It is just the original non color one, but I have Tetris. I only have 2 batteries left though.

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25 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

You're acting like that fancy word Jim used hahahaha.

I've always wanted to use that word.  Finally got the chance!

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2021-22 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 0.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 0

Total Hail = 0.0"

Coldest Low = 29

Lows 32 or below = 7

Highs 32 or below = 0

Lows 20 or below = 0

Highs 40 or below = 0

 

 

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