jaster220 Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 114 hrs out on a GLOBAL. This is a pretty amazing image for some monster LES bands with a Superior/Michigan/Huron connection: Edit: Just noticed that it also has a narrow band wandering through my area. 1 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 A lot of Peeps calling winter over on Dec 2nd. Some have a beef, others not so much. For the record, I'm quite pleased to get off to such a quick start. Not that either is a favorable comparison to this winter, but I've had way more snow than at this time in 2013, and it will be Dec 14th before that season passes me if I get nothing before then. I could go flake-less until mid-January before last winter would finally catch and (barely) pass me. 3 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 Happened sometime during Dec of '96. Middle of the UP was getting a 30" snowstorm (even away from Superior) while I sat under RN and drizzle/fog in Traverse. (that went on to be a top snowfall winter over 200" total) This would not be unprecedented for mid-December: 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 00Z NAM has way more dry slot for Saturday night, I end up with a wonderful 2" as a result. Even the jack zone barely exceeds 7". I hate the fact that I believe that. NST is even worse, basically following Euro to a T but with less moisture. 1 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, jaster220 said: Happened sometime during Dec of '96. Middle of the UP was getting a 30" snowstorm (even away from Superior) while I sat under RN and drizzle/fog in Traverse. (that went on to be a top snowfall winter over 200" total) This would not be unprecedented for mid-December: Beast Mode 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, FAR_Weather said: 00Z NAM has way more dry slot for Saturday night, I end up with a wonderful 2" as a result. Even the jack zone barely exceeds 7". I hate the fact that I believe that. NST is even worse, basically following Euro to a T but with less moisture. Saw that NAM - szheesh! This thing wants to stay way north. NAM really doesn't show any S stream wave/secondary over The Mitt like the globals have. Not sure what to make of that. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 Lot of action on the GFS, it's further north than other models with the storm on the 8th. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, bud2380 said: Lot of action on the GFS, it's further north than other models with the storm on the 8th. That storm next weekend is looking interesting for sure. Starting to look like a pattern change finally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 Everything is fresh in this pic, besides the piles which are left over from the mid-November systems. Believe this is about an inch of very wet snow. Good bonus. 4 5 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 wooha 18z gfs...be the best snowmobile opener in sometime if that close even one to verifying. Good ol Canadian on board too 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 Roads are slushy to wet. Guess the past couple days in the 40s/50s heated them up. Still, tomorrow morning is going to be flash freezing hell and thankfully I don't work lol. 1 1 1 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, Madtown said: wooha 18z gfs...be the best snowmobile opener in sometime if that close even one to verifying. Good ol Canadian on board too Could get nippy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 As we open up Dec, the lower 48 is currently sitting at one of its lowest snow cover ratios in the past 2 decades sitting at a paltry 8.6% yesterday. The obvious culprit is the pesky W/SW ridge that has brought forth record time warmth. As we move forward, a true pattern change is ahead as a SW Flow develops and will change the above map...but to what degree? The northern Sub will first benefit in this change and then the pattern should press farther south. I'm seeing some signs of the return of the "Baffin Bay Ridge" that was all so common back in Oct. The LRC cycle #2 shall commence. I haven't read or listened to Gary's Winter Forecast yet but to me it does appear that this years pattern is close to 60 days (+/- 2 days). I'm still not 100% but at this point that is where I'm at. Would like to see where we are after next weeks wx bc that will be a big clue as to where the storms track into the west/southwest regions of the U.S. With that being said, last nights 0z Euro showing this for the 1st strong northern stream wave dumping some significant snows up north. I like it when nature fills up the missing ingredient to brew cold and seed cold down farther south. @FAR_Weather riding the southern edge while @Beltrami Island looks golden and east towards @Madtown 0z EPS... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 Big changes the last 2 runs of the EPS over the Central CONUS as much cooler trends are showing up and an uptick in snow chances later next week. As mentioned above, the return of the "Baffin Bay Ridge" is appearing in the Week 2 pattern which is shoving the jet stream farther south. In addition, the Strat is playing ball as one can vividly see that by Day 8 a large warming pool just west of Greenland and N of Hudson Bay develops and right when there might be a 3rd system to track by the following weekend. 0z EPS snow mean suggesting a good LR signal for a swath of snow across the Plains/MW/GL's late next week... 0z Euro op run has flashed this potential system for a couple runs and the GFS is also on board....let's see what happens but it does look more wintry overall...finally... 5-day temp mean per the latest 0z EPS mean...where there is snow OTG temps remain BN and where there "could" be snow OTG later next week temps are trending cooler each run. Finally, I'll end this post with this comment on the teleconnections to look out for in the LR for those seeking winter wx (including myself). If the latest trends are accurate and hold onto the idea that the EPO/WPO relax towards neutral, that would be welcomed news as the raging PAC jet wouldn't inundate the lower 48 with warmth and allow for the jet to track farther south. There is consensus among the modeling as you can see below... Is the MJO going to play ball also?? Yesterday's Euro Weeklies says yes...all in all, + trends of late... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 The MJO is very key to the future of this upcoming winter. 4 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 After looking at last evenings Euro weeklies, check out the stark differences in the 500mb 5-day mean for the opening days of this month. The western C.A. trough is almost completely washed out and now a strong N.A Vortex is centered over Canada. 10 days ago vs recent run... Current Run... What could this mean going forward?? If the MJO forecast is correct (BIG question) then I believe its bias of holding a strong western Canadian trough in the LR is questionable. This would be especially true if the EPO/WPO forecasts hold as both teleconnections are suggesting neutral to negative territory throughout the middle & end of DEC. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 Meanwhile, today's JMA weeklies are in the blow torch DEC camp...here are the Week 2 and Week 3-4 temp maps respectively for reference... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Grizzcoat said: The MJO is very key to the future of this upcoming winter. 3 hours ago, Tom said: Big changes the last 2 runs of the EPS over the Central CONUS as much cooler trends are showing up and an uptick in snow chances later next week. As mentioned above, the return of the "Baffin Bay Ridge" is appearing in the Week 2 pattern which is shoving the jet stream farther south. In addition, the Strat is playing ball as one can vividly see that by Day 8 a large warming pool just west of Greenland and N of Hudson Bay develops and right when there might be a 3rd system to track by the following weekend. 0z EPS snow mean suggesting a good LR signal for a swath of snow across the Plains/MW/GL's late next week... 0z Euro op run has flashed this potential system for a couple runs and the GFS is also on board....let's see what happens but it does look more wintry overall...finally... 5-day temp mean per the latest 0z EPS mean...where there is snow OTG temps remain BN and where there "could" be snow OTG later next week temps are trending cooler each run. Finally, I'll end this post with this comment on the teleconnections to look out for in the LR for those seeking winter wx (including myself). If the latest trends are accurate and hold onto the idea that the EPO/WPO relax towards neutral, that would be welcomed news as the raging PAC jet wouldn't inundate the lower 48 with warmth and allow for the jet to track farther south. There is consensus among the modeling as you can see below... Is the MJO going to play ball also?? Yesterday's Euro Weeklies says yes...all in all, + trends of late... Going back to Sept, the MJO seems to be the teleconnection with the single biggest influence on our weather. Last night Gary predicted an Artic outbreak lasting 10-14 days but didn't give a date on when it would happen. (He recorded his forecast last week and clearly didn't know the cycle length at that time.) Tom if it is indeed around a 60 day cycle, when would that most likely occur? The post Grizz shared a few days ago could indicate the first of Jan, which would make some since with the largest storm in the pattern being due in right before New Years. Thoughts guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 Storm thread for tomorrow thru Monday. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 Des Moines NWS not excited about Tuesday saying light accumulations at best and dry air will have to be overcome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 I'm telling ya, if there's one signature in this young winter season so far it's the wild swings. 56F yesterday but this morning I'm driving to work in steady snow falling. Nice med sized flakes coming down gently all morning like you envision your "first flakes" scenario in the Lwr Lakes. Perfect start to my TGIFriday. Happy Friday to all! Looking like exciting wx is finally looming for most if not all of the Sub. #goodtimes 3 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 Getting some light snow here at this time no accumulation. With that wet snow falling the temperature here is 34 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tStacsh Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 Just now, jaster220 said: I'm telling ya, if there's one signature in this young winter season so far it's the wild swings. 56F yesterday but this morning I'm driving to work in steady snow falling. Nice med sized flakes coming down gently all morning like you envision your "first flakes" scenario in the Lwr Lakes. Perfect start to my TGIFriday. Happy Friday to all! Looking like exciting wx is finally looming for most if not all of the Sub. #goodtimes Definitely a battle zone setting up, which usually means precip/storms. So that's a good thing. Just need one little buckle in the jet stream to provide a share the wealth type storm. 1 time the long range GFS will be right. Will it be the storm it's showing in 10 days? Let's hope so! I've got 87 days left where I care about snow. So plenty of time to track and hope. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tStacsh Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 Just now, westMJim said: Getting some light snow here at this time no accumulation. With that wet snow falling the temperature here is 34 Interesting, my whole yard was white and had to brush my car off leaving for work this morning on the NE side. about 3/8". Roads are just wet though. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andie Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 Any thoughts on late December in Texas/Oklahoma region? 1 Quote Before You Diagnose Yourself With Depression or Low Self-Esteem,...First Make Sure You Are Not In Fact, Just Surrounded By A$$holes. “If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell.” Gen. Sheridan 1866 2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 15 hours ago, Clinton said: KC hit a high of 71 today breaking the previous record of 70. It was a beautiful day with sun and calm winds. There was also wind in Ashland, so I wouldn't really call yesterday a hot day unless you're exerting yourself. 1 Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 11 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Clinton said: Going back to Sept, the MJO seems to be the teleconnection with the single biggest influence on our weather. Last night Gary predicted an Artic outbreak lasting 10-14 days but didn't give a date on when it would happen. (He recorded his forecast last week and clearly didn't know the cycle length at that time.) Tom if it is indeed around a 60 day cycle, when would that most likely occur? The post Grizz shared a few days ago could indicate the first of Jan, which would make some since with the largest storm in the pattern being due in right before New Years. Thoughts guys? Its pretty obvious this has been a challenging season to decipher the LRC when the guru is having a tough time! I'll have to dig more deeply into my notes over the weekend when I have more time and see more model data on timing of when big storms and cold are possible. All the LR modeling are showing a very active pattern starting to set up next week and will remain active through the holidays. It'll be busy on here is all I gotta say. Someone on here will cash in Bigly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 If you want to find winter, just go to Hawaii. https://forecast.weather.gov/wwamap/wwatxtget.php?cwa=hfo&wwa=blizzard warning URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service Honolulu HI 311 AM HST Fri Dec 3 2021 ...BLIZZARD WARNING FOR THE BIG ISLAND SUMMITS... HIZ028-040215- /O.CON.PHFO.BZ.W.0001.211204T0400Z-211205T1600Z/ Big Island Summits- 311 AM HST Fri Dec 3 2021 ...BLIZZARD WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 6 PM THIS EVENING TO 6 AM HST SUNDAY... * WHAT...Blizzard conditions expected. Total snow accumulations of up to 12 inches or more. Winds gusting over 100 mph. * WHERE...Big Island Summits. * WHEN...From 6 PM this evening to 6 AM HST Sunday. * IMPACTS...Travel could be very difficult to impossible. Blowing snow will significantly reduce visibility at times, with periods of zero visibility. See the High Wind Warning that is also in effect. * ADDITIONAL DETAILS...The strong winds will likely cause significant drifting of snow. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, Tom said: Its pretty obvious this has been a challenging season to decipher the LRC when the guru is having a tough time! I'll have to dig more deeply into my notes over the weekend when I have more time and see more model data on timing of when big storms and cold are possible. All the LR modeling are showing a very active pattern starting to set up next week and will remain active through the holidays. It'll be busy on here is all I gotta say. Someone on here will cash in Bigly. One of the hardest I can remember, I'm getting tired of wiping egg off my face. It doesn't help that we have a lot of similar storms in the pattern and that the models have been terrible beyond 5 days. The last time I can remember a cycle length of 60+ days was 2010/2011. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 The political hacks at the CPC don't see winter coming quite yet... 6-10 Day Outlooks 8-14 Day Outlooks Week 3-4 Outlooks 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 1 hour ago, tStacsh said: Interesting, my whole yard was white and had to brush my car off leaving for work this morning on the NE side. about 3/8". Roads are just wet though. I also have heard that there was snow on the ground in the Rockford area as well. There was some slushy snow on the roofs and car tops but not on the ground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 Whaddya know, I estimated an inch, and that's exactly what the airport recorded. Signature updated. 30*F. 5 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, Clinton said: One of the hardest I can remember, I'm getting tired of wiping egg off my face. It doesn't help that we have a lot of similar storms in the pattern and that the models have been terrible beyond 5 days. The last time I can remember a cycle length of 60+ days was 2010/2011. Well said, it certainly has been a fascinating season trying to dial in on this LRC length. I didn't follow the LRC back in '10/'11 so that would be quite some time since we have had a long cycle length. As you said, with so many similar storms/clippers and so forth, IMO, this bodes well for an active season. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 14 minutes ago, OmahaSnowFan said: The political hacks at the CPC don't see winter coming quite yet... 6-10 Day Outlooks 8-14 Day Outlooks Week 3-4 Outlooks Why is every post of yours negative and snarky? Every CPC outlook past week 2 is always above normal, you know that. 2 1 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Tom said: Well said, it certainly has been a fascinating season trying to dial in on this LRC length. I didn't follow the LRC back in '10/'11 so that would be quite some time since we have had a long cycle length. As you said, with so many similar storms/clippers and so forth, IMO, this bodes well for an active season. That's the year I began to follow the LRC. It was a La Nina that year, maybe not quite as warm as this has been and we had received only about 4 or 5 inches of snow going into the last week of Jan. In early January Gary forecasted a cold and very snowy Feb (in fact right down to the dates.) The next thing you know the AO and NAO tanked and the snow commenced. I got around 44 inches of snow in Feb (26in from one storm) and have followed ever since. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Clinton said: That's the year I began to follow the LRC. It was a La Nina that year, maybe not quite as warm as this has been and we had received only about 4 or 5 inches of snow going into the last week of Jan. In early January Gary forecasted a cold and very snowy Feb (in fact right down to the dates.) The next thing you know the AO and NAO tanked and the snow commenced. I got around 44 inches of snow in Feb (26in from one storm) and have followed ever since. Holy snikes! That must have been quite a finish to met Winter. I remember that year vividly bc I left for AZ in March and we still had snow OTG up until the 2nd week. In fact, I think we got hit by a nice 6-10" storm during the 1st week of March. Cold storm with a lot of wind. That was a back loaded season for sure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Andie said: Any thoughts on late December in Texas/Oklahoma region? I think it's hard to say at the moment. They're some indications that it could turn cold and stay cold for awhile after Christmas. I think it's just a little to early to make any bold predictions though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 GFS a little whiter this run IMBY 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tStacsh Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 37 minutes ago, FAR_Weather said: Why is every post of yours negative and snarky? Every CPC outlook past week 2 is always above normal, you know that. To be fair, he wasn't the one who claimed they base their outlooks on politics. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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