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Models have been showing this for a few days now and all are in agreement of a storm impacting the mid section of the country.  The GFS has shifted further north, the Euro has weakened a bit, but both are showing plenty to keep an eye on.  The Canadian is similar to the Euro on placement but as strong as the GFS.  

 

18z GFS

 

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12z Canadian

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12z Euro

 

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So, we have a thread and models all go north lol. My early call for the SLP running over Chicago solidly in play.

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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11 minutes ago, bud2380 said:

Big changes in the euro from 12z

Ugh... a strong piece of energy in southern Canada really suppresses everything.

season snowfall: 34.8"

'22-23: 30.2"      '21-22: 27.1"      '20-21: 52.5"      '19-20: 36.2"      '18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"

Average snowfall: ~30"

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I'm not buying into the north camp just yet bc every global ensemble mean SLP has it riding thru the S MW/OHV.  I think the GFS is over amped in a positively inverted trough scenarios its hard to believe it.  If the set up was a little different up stream, I'd say yes, but I think this will be a strung out wave and then maybe it tries to go somewhat neg tilt later in the game.  That's my 2 cents at this range.

Meantime, 0z GEFS...

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Slowly showing some big hits in the mix...

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Classic TX PanHandle track up thru the OHV...

 

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The bias of the Euro holding energy back in the SW is still showing up but the EPS is slowly ejecting the energy out quicker each passing run.  00z EPS is not overly enthusiastic with this system compared to the GEFS/GEPS.

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Let's go ICON!! Has KC in the 6-8 inch range.....I know.....stupid model. But, I'm going with it because I need to feel good about a chance of snow in KC. We haven't even come close to a chance of snow since Nov. 1st. I'm locking in the ICON model and going with it

 

GFS and GEM....not so much for KC. 

 

5 days to go

At least KC has a storm to track. 

 

 

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I have a feeling the Euro and its more progressive positively tilted trough solution will win out.  I'm just hoping it will be further north than where it's running now.  I feel fairly good 5 days out that the GFS is to my north and the Euro to my south with the Canadian and now UK right in the middle.  Hopefully they all meet up in the middle. :)

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18 minutes ago, someweatherdude said:

Gary says the LRC favors a further south solution.  But he admits that he's gun shy about predicting anything significant for KC because we've had 0.19 inches of precipitation in the last 43 days.  I think he has to be sweating the whole LRC thing this year.  We haven't had anything yet that truly resembles October. 

Here's is quote and I'm still shocked that so many storms have tracked by with no moisture to work with for us. @Tomdo you agree with him?  I keep looking for a fully phased storm, not sure if we're going to get it.

The LRC strongly suggests the farther south solution, but the 43-day dry spell has me a bit "freaked out" over anything that looks like rain or snow.

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19 minutes ago, someweatherdude said:

Gary says the LRC favors a further south solution.  But he admits that he's gun shy about predicting anything significant for KC because we've had 0.19 inches of precipitation in the last 43 days.  I think he has to be sweating the whole LRC thing this year.  We haven't had anything yet that truly resembles October. 

Hopefully the cold air is stronger on the models that will push the system south to finally give kc its first snow of the season!

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The Euro is back nw and a bit stronger again, so it's fairly similar to other models.  Models agree on the general scenario.  Energy digs down from the pacNW, which grabs the Baha energy and slingshots it across the midwest very quickly.  The rest of the energy in the west is then wasted as the northern stream rushes in behind the initial energy and suppresses everything.

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season snowfall: 34.8"

'22-23: 30.2"      '21-22: 27.1"      '20-21: 52.5"      '19-20: 36.2"      '18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"

Average snowfall: ~30"

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53 minutes ago, Clinton said:

Here's is quote and I'm still shocked that so many storms have tracked by with no moisture to work with for us. @Tomdo you agree with him?  I keep looking for a fully phased storm, not sure if we're going to get it.

The LRC strongly suggests the farther south solution, but the 43-day dry spell has me a bit "freaked out" over anything that looks like rain or snow.

It’s hard for me to see this storm really phasing into a stronger storm like the GFS keeps showing.  We are at that 5-day window where things can change a lot.  The energy needs to get samples better by say, Wed/Thu…if by then the models begin to show some phasing, then I’ll be more optimistic.  Otherwise, I see this as a strung out + tilted trough.  Still though, this storm could end up laying down a significant snowstorm over the Sub.  Nice changes on the Euro over here.

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^^ Love for that to verify but the heaviest snow falls with a temp around 4F Saturday PM and falling.

20:1 ratios. 

Not sure I by it 

** Back in the saddle after having my world rocked by Rona. *** Nasty stuff. Ivermectin works.

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DMX actually more concerned than I would've gathered at this juncture-

This western trof advance eastward later Friday into Saturday.  The
surface wave in Colorado is forecast to eject into the central
United States on Saturday with moisture streaming northward from the
Gulf. The deterministic runs of the GFS and Euro are beginning to
come closer in their respective solutions although the GFS remains
farther north.  The ensemble guidance would also suggest some decent
snow associated with a deformation axis across Iowa as well on
Saturday and will begin to mention the potential for significant
snowfalls this upcoming holiday weekend.  Temperatures are also
expected to remain quite cold through the weekend with the southern
edge of the arctic air dipping into the state.  Any potential snow
cover would only help the cold air migrate farther into Iowa.
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1 minute ago, Grizzcoat said:

DMX actually more concerned than I would've gathered at this juncture-

This western trof advance eastward later Friday into Saturday.  The
surface wave in Colorado is forecast to eject into the central
United States on Saturday with moisture streaming northward from the
Gulf. The deterministic runs of the GFS and Euro are beginning to
come closer in their respective solutions although the GFS remains
farther north.  The ensemble guidance would also suggest some decent
snow associated with a deformation axis across Iowa as well on
Saturday and will begin to mention the potential for significant
snowfalls this upcoming holiday weekend.  Temperatures are also
expected to remain quite cold through the weekend with the southern
edge of the arctic air dipping into the state.  Any potential snow
cover would only help the cold air migrate farther into Iowa.

Won't be long before they start throwing out "Historic" lol. Seems to me they do it quite a bit. 

A certain group on a certain media app is forecasting DEADLY BLIZZARD ..lol.

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2 hours ago, Grizzcoat said:

^^ Love for that to verify but the heaviest snow falls with a temp around 4F Saturday PM and falling.

20:1 ratios. 

Not sure I by it 

** Back in the saddle after having my world rocked by Rona. *** Nasty stuff. Ivermectin works.

Been down the past 4 days myself with a fever. Doubt it's rona but still not pleasant. Glad you're doing better and back just in time for the action.

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 52.8" (89% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.1 Apr: 0.0

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = xx.x" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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