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3 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

It must have been 1963 he was talking about for the cold (He would have been in 4th grade.). Looks like Ashland hit -15 a couple times that month. 

The coldest January on record was 1977 it looks like, head and shoulders above any other month for cold. 

The late 1970s were totally insane for winter cold.

We just got a taste of it in our region in 1976-77 and 1977-78, and then of course felt it pretty full on in 1978-79. But the Eastern 2/3 of the country had back to back to back really historic winters.

You can see why there was a lot of media hoopla about global cooling back then.

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4 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

55 in Corvallis with southerlies.

No N/S gradient at all today. Not only is it warmer here than in Eugene and Roseburg, but it’s warmer than nearly all of northern CA right now.

Strange never hear from you on cold days Corvallis had a pretty good inversion earlier this week 

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7 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Strange never hear from you on cold days Corvallis had a pretty good inversion earlier this week 

I’m not going to lie I do often make out this area to be warmer than it is. Not gonna try to beat around the bush here. Also seems like places farther south (N CA) are simply under an inversion and will probably overtake us by quite a bit later on as it breaks down. I pretty much just note this random stuff when there’s nothing to track.

Then again, I also had a ton of homework during the past few days and as soon as I finish it, it switches over to southwesterlies. Gotta love vector calc. 

If not cold continental air hopefully we get back into an NW flow pattern soon, which I think we will see going into February. The mountains need some fresh snow.

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6 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

I’m not going to lie I do often make out this area to be warmer than it is. Not gonna try to beat around the bush here. Also seems like places farther south (N CA) are simply under an inversion and will probably overtake us by quite a bit later on as it breaks down. I pretty much just note this random stuff when there’s nothing to track.

Then again, I also had a ton of homework during the past few days and as soon as I finish it, it switches over to southwesterlies. Gotta love vector calc. 

If not cold continental air hopefully we get back into an NW flow pattern soon, which I think we will see going into February. The mountains need some fresh snow.

Thanks for admitting it at least now we just need to work on Tiger 🐅 ;)

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13 hours ago, Brennan said:

Moving to SC early Feb…. Looks like we may be pushing the move back a week :) i won’t miss a snow event here. I refuse. NEVER. 

Welcome to swamp country, bro. You’re gonna SWEAT.

Lots of thunderstorms, though!

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Looks like the EPS develops a SE ridge towards the end of the run and the bulk of the cold air is closer to the PNW as opposed to east of the Rockies. 

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Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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13 hours ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

 

Extreme cold around Baffin Island isn’t something I’d be optimistic about, to say the least.

Tends to verify warmer (in the US) relative to LR guidance. Cold will often stay bottled up there.

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1 hour ago, BLI snowman said:

The late 1970s were totally insane for winter cold.

We just got a taste of it in our region in 1976-77 and 1977-78, and then of course felt it pretty full on in 1978-79. But the Eastern 2/3 of the country had back to back to back really historic winters.

You can see why there was a lot of media hoopla about global cooling back then.

Yeah, I just noticed 78 and 79' were really cold out there too. 

But it is interesting how much colder our winters were in the 50s-60s compared to now, and looking at their stats the past 15 years, they have had several months that were colder than any month recorded when my Dad was growing up there during that time. 

It seems like their winters were more consistently cool, but in terms of extremes there hasn't been the same kind of difference we have seen here. February seems to have performed pretty well out there the past 15 years or so too. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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49 minutes ago, RentonHillTC said:

I remember that. It started quite suddenly. Was on the bus headed to work when the strong winds hit. Felt like a giant had smacked the side of the bus. Counted over 20 downed trees blocking or partially blocking my way on the return trip that evening. I lost power for 12 hours. Just down the street from me, an Albertson’s lost power for most of a week and had to throw out its inventory of frozen and refrigerated food.

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12 hours ago, snow_wizard said:

No way to know yet.

Not for certain, obviously. The climate system seems anxious to go in that direction, though. This winter reminds me of 2008/09, even with the QBO mismatch.

The anomalous warmth in the subtropical strat is peculiar, to say the least. Obviously there’s been some aerosol injection up there (well before the Tonga eruption, even). Remains to be seen how equatorial strat responds to the eruption, but QBO alone is favorable for MJO transits thru the WPAC in the F/M/A (and corresponding WWBs).

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51 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Thanks for admitting it at least now we just need to work on Tiger 🐅 ;)

It's been an extremely torchy January though. SLE is only running a 2.4 departure basically because the 1991-2020 averages are already so mild, but if you compare it to the long term period of record average its more than 4F above normal. 

I haven't looked at what our departure is this month in the foothills, but since the inversions have been shallow its probably 4-5F at least. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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1 minute ago, Phil said:

Not for certain, obviously. The climate system seems anxious to go in that direction, though.

This winter reminds me of 2008/09, even with the QBO mismatch. The anomalous warmth in the subtropical strat is peculiar, to say the least.

Obviously there’s been some aerosol injection up there (well before the Tonga eruption, even).

Obviously would love to be wrong here but I’m sensing next winter will be an El Niño dud. 

Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

I remember that. It started quite suddenly. Was on the bus headed to work when the strong winds hit. Felt like a giant had smacked the side of the bus. Counted over 20 downed trees blocking or partially blocking my way on the return trip that evening. I lost power for 12 hours. Just down the street from me, an Albertson’s lost power for most of a week and had to throw out its inventory of frozen and refrigerated food.

I remember school let out early due to the power going out and I was trying to get home in my 1975 El Camino (had just gotten my license in late November 1992) and two of the three possible routes home had trees blocking them, made it home but it was slightly interesting driving with huge trees heavenly bending towards the road and branches flying everywhere! Fun day!! 

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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Amazing how many weeks of dry we had in 13-14. I saw something I posted 1/12/2014, "had my 2nd measurable snow so far the whole winter" after 2.5" fell the previous night. The first one was a quick 5" on 12/6, then didn't snow the rest of December. IMO that was a waste of cold, but impressive statistically. 

Ashland, KY Weather

'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - 5.50"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 2 on 1/17

Measurable snows: 4
Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19)

Thunders: 11
1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15
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