Cascadia_Wx Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said: There is no way Everett and Bellingham are sunnier than Portland Olympic shadowing 1 Quote Summer grows while Winter goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Perfect day for ice fishing on Lake Evergreen. 8 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Cascadia_Wx said: Olympic shadowing Even so, we have hard data showing that Seattle is cloudier than Portland (sunshine hours). Everett and Bellingham are socked in with marine layers much more often than Portland in early summer (longest days of the year) and are much cloudier in NW flow patterns (spring). Given all that I find it hard to believe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 51 minutes ago, Phil said: That’s climo. Not THIS wet. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 EPS control run has every state in the lower-48 colder than average in the clown range. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, snow_wizard said: Not THIS wet. Seattle could get 300 inches of rain in a year and Phil would tell us we live in a wet climate so its normal. 3 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerGarfield Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 37 minutes ago, MossMan said: I’m in the blue! So am I. 1 Quote Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA: 2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24. Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24 Days with trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel), 4/5/24 (T) First Freeze: 10/27/2023 Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24) Coldest low: -12F (!!!!!!!!) (1/12/24) Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: It’s been 10 years since our last cool/wet spring. When I think about the spring of 2012 it seems like it happened in a different climate. Since 2014 May has functioned more like a summer month, we still have the occasional frost/freeze in May, but 2012 and 13 showed me what this climate is capable of in May. We had a low of 25 on May 1, 2013, and then a 41/34 day on the 22nd with snow falling in the morning. May 2012 we had several lows in the upper 20s throughout the month. Freezes in May used to be much more common. This year might have a shot at some with cold ENSO in control and a second year Nina at that. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, Phil said: EPS control run has every state in the lower-48 colder than average in the clown range. It really looks like the EPS is onto something. Jan 1963 has been showing up as an analog on the GFS as well. 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RentonHill Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 EPS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TT-SEA Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Lovely day... Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TacomaWaWx Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Lovely day... 11 degrees cooler here. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: It’s been 10 years since our last cool/wet spring. When I think about the spring of 2012 it seems like it happened in a different climate. Since 2014 May has functioned more like a summer month, we still have the occasional frost/freeze in May, but 2012 and 13 showed me what this climate is capable of in May. We had a low of 25 on May 1, 2013, and then a 41/34 day on the 22nd with snow falling in the morning. May 2012 we had several lows in the upper 20s throughout the month. A 2011 like spring would be cool. I’m sure Timothy would disagree though. 1 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gusky Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 GEFS control going crazy lol 3 1 Quote My Weather Station: https://ambientweather.net/dashboard/b415ff35b2d13f00c899051028f04466 Located in North Seattle, elevation ~150ft. Highest temperature ever recorded is 110.3, lowest is 14.5. My Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said: A 2011 like spring would be cool. I’m sure Timothy would disagree though. Yeah, but that spring was so cold. It’s not realistic to hope for something like that. My neighbors say it snowed multiple times here that May. We were in contract on a house around 2300’ that April and May and there was snow on the ground much of the time when we were up there. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RentonHill Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 12z v 00z v 12z min temps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Nothing more depressing than 35 degree rain falling on hard earned snowfall. IMG_4040.MOV 1 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Lake Oswego Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 40 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said: Joshua would disagree. Seriously though the drought map looks much better than it did a few weeks ago. You’re not wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 27 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Seattle could get 300 inches of rain in a year and Phil would tell us we live in a wet climate so its normal. To be clear I was referring to the position of the modeled AR event being referenced, not the fact it’s raining in your backyard. Though if I hated clouds and rain as much as you, I wouldn’t live in the cloudiest and drizzliest climate in the country. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Phil said: To be clear I was referring to the position of the AR, not the fact it’s raining in your backyard. Though if I hated clouds and rain as much as you, I wouldn’t live in the cloudiest and drizzliest climate in the country. We actually have spectacular summers. San Francisco has much worse summers than we do in this area. If we had summers like the WA coast or the Bay Area we would have never moved here. My comments are in relation to climo for my area. It's been excessively and unusually wet here compared to climo. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Cascadia_Wx said: Not much of a north south gradient overall the last two weeks. Looks like the biggest gradient in the region is between the coastal states and Montana Just compare BLI to SEA, and SEA to EUG. The gradient is very obvious. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Some bare ground appearing... 2 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Definitely some cold ensemble members on the EPS, but not a lot of snow due to the ridge still being a bit close for that. The next retrogression step should put us in great shape by the end of the month. At any rate looks much drier after this last bit of rain coming up. 4 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 I have no idea how anyone can deny there has been a really strong N to S temp gradient so far this winter. It's incredibly obvious. Here is the hard data. Bellingham Dec = 34.6 / -5.2 Jan = 34.5 / -5.0 SEA Dec = 38.0 / -4.0 Jan = 37.9 / -4.1 EUG Dec = 41.6 / +1.0 Jan = 44.4 / +3.8 Just no way to spin that in any way shape or form. 7 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bainbridgekid Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 WSDOT is now expecting Stevens Pass to remain closed till Tuesday. They closed Thursday morning so that will be going on a six day closure. Wild. 1 Quote Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation) Snow since February 2019: 91" 2023-24: 6" 2022-23: 17.5" 2021-22: 17.75" 2020-21: 14.5” 2019-20: 10.5" 2018-19: 24.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, bainbridgekid said: WSDOT is now expecting Stevens Pass to remain closed till Tuesday. They closed Thursday morning so that will be going on a six day closure. Wild. Sounds like lots of downed trees in places that do not usually see avalanches and no power or cell service at the summit. Some places have 35 feet of snow and debris over the road as well. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, bainbridgekid said: WSDOT is now expecting Stevens Pass to remain closed till Tuesday. They closed Thursday morning so that will be going on a six day closure. Wild. Part of the problem too is there’s staffing shortages due to covid too. But yeah it’s mostly weather related. Another issue will be the AR in a couple days that could complicate things. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, bainbridgekid said: WSDOT is now expecting Stevens Pass to remain closed till Tuesday. They closed Thursday morning so that will be going on a six day closure. Wild. This almost harkens back to the pre 1920 era. As far as I know the Central WA snow blast was the worst since 1916. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 46 degree sunny day and yet the snow is not really melting at all. On the flip side it was 35 degrees but windy and the snow melt was crazy fast. Too bad we couldn’t have gone right into this pattern instead of all of that wind and rain last week. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said: Part of the problem too is there’s staffing shortages due to covid too. But yeah it’s mostly weather related. Another issue will be the AR in a couple days that could complicate things. Yeah....this will be a warm one. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 22 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: I have no idea how anyone can deny there has been a really strong N to S temp gradient so far this winter. It's incredibly obvious. Here is the hard data. Bellingham Dec = 34.6 / -5.2 Jan = 34.5 / -5.0 SEA Dec = 38.0 / -4.0 Jan = 37.9 / -4.1 EUG Dec = 41.6 / +1.0 Jan = 44.4 / +3.8 Just no way to spin that in any way shape or form. Is anyone denying it? 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, MossMan said: 46 degree sunny day and yet the snow is not really melting at all. On the flip side it was 35 degrees but windy and the snow melt was crazy fast. Too bad we couldn’t have gone right into this pattern instead of all of that wind and rain last week. Yeah....that rain was insane and wind is very hard on snow also. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Town Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, bainbridgekid said: WSDOT is now expecting Stevens Pass to remain closed till Tuesday. They closed Thursday morning so that will be going on a six day closure. Wild. Now saying Wednesday for Stevens. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said: Is anyone denying it? There was post earlier that made a good attempt. Those colored maps can be misleading for various reasons. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusky Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 33 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: Definitely some cold ensemble members on the EPS, but not a lot of snow due to the ridge still being a bit close for that. The next retrogression step should put us in great shape by the end of the month. At any rate looks much drier after this last bit of rain coming up. I'm fine with a lack of snow chances if it means cold and dry. I love a good sunny winter day! Quote My Weather Station: https://ambientweather.net/dashboard/b415ff35b2d13f00c899051028f04466 Located in North Seattle, elevation ~150ft. Highest temperature ever recorded is 110.3, lowest is 14.5. My Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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