Clinton Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, ATW said: Hey Clinton. Do you buy the GFS? Trying to figure out why some of our surrounding NWS offices shifted everything south. 3 minutes ago, ATW said: Thanks. This storm is driving me nuts because this could be our ONE chance to score a big snow this winter. Yes I do buy the GFS and the GEFS is juiced for both of us. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 40 minutes ago, Tony said: I have a gut feeling that we are not done yet with the evolution of this storm. Many places are going to be buried. The razor sharp north extent of this system implies that any 5-10 mile shift N will make a forecaster go nuts. Very difficult storm to handle over the coming days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 23 minutes ago, The Snowman said: 18z GFS ENS absolutely shellacks the region, including a northward tick. Downtown Chicago sees almost 1.7" QPF (assuming ratios somewhere around 15:1 that would imply 25". Love the fact your putting effort on Chitown. I know your not in the game, but this shows me your enthusiasm of the weather is in the right place. Thanks for the updates and keep ‘em coming! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, Clinton said: Yes I do buy the GFS and the GEFS is juiced for both of us. Just woke up from a nap ski and this brought a smile to my face 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Snowman Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tom said: Love the fact your putting effort on Chitown. I know your not in the game, but this shows me your enthusiasm of the weather is in the right place. Thanks for the updates and keep ‘em coming! Well, technically not in the game... may or may not have booked a flight home for this thing... Cheers to heavy snows & northward shifts! 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 According to model runs. I could see anywhere from zero to 10”. A shift north would increase those totals. GRR is very confident southern Michigan will see at least 8+ inches over 36 hours. I think Fort Wayne to Detroit is the place to be for this. I just don’t see any more north shift coming due to that intrusion and strength of the polar jet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Snowman Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 18z ECMWF running, get your bets in now! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 I'm glad this system bolted well south early so I don't even have to worry about any model shifts. I can just sit on the sideline and watch. 2 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATW Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 24 minutes ago, The Snowman said: 18z ECMWF running, get your bets in now! I will guess a south shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 18z Euro with a nice bump N for Chicago peeps! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 18z Euro has the .50" qpf line now up through the city and is slowly inching its way North each run...it's still snowing at the end of this run... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, someweatherdude said: what about those of us further back toward the SW? Not as good for KC. Actually gives us in the southern half of Nebraska a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 18z Euro up to hr 90 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tom Posted January 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, someweatherdude said: what about those of us further back toward the SW? Here you are... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tom said: 18z Euro has the .50" qpf line now up through the city and is slowly inching its way North each run...it's still snowing at the end of this run... Ugh literally 20-30 miles in the light green north of the good stuff Sucks being here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Any chance the models are advancing the front too quick? Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Stacsh said: Ugh literally 20-30 miles in the light green north of the good stuff Sucks being here. 3 runs ago you were out of the game and now back in...let's wait and see over the next 24 hours... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, someweatherdude said: Maybe not as good in terms of the high amounts, but it still keeps us in the heavy stuff. It didn't push south. So I'll take it. You’re correct. Still a good amount, not just the insane totals of other models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 This summarizes DTX's pm AFD. Confidence increased today.. Quote That said, as it stands currently based on the trends seen yesterday and today in the ensembles and deterministics, leaning towards the northerly track solution where SE MI (particularly southern SE MI) sees a long duration snowfall event from Wednesday morning into Thursday. 2 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 18z Euro Mean a little bump north for KC and Tom 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATW Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 32 minutes ago, someweatherdude said: Maybe not as good in terms of the high amounts, but it still keeps us in the heavy stuff. It didn't push south. So I'll take it. I just read a write up from a Met in another forum and if the GFS and Euro are correct with a stronger southern stream low then the 2nd system would have a better chance to come north. He said a lot more but he thinks there could still be a northern correction. Just now, Clinton said: 18z Euro Mean Well Clinton. It is looking pretty good as of now. Just don’t want to see any drastic shifts. So many things in play. A Met on another forum had a great write about this storm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATW Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, ATW said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATW Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, ATW said: Clinton, I’m starting to feel better about this one. Hopefully no drastic changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 0z NBM 10:1 map 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Pretty wild to be looking at Ensemble Mean maps with 18+ amounts! (18z GEFS) 2 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, jaster220 said: Pretty wild to be looking at Ensemble Mean maps with 18+ amounts! (18z GEFS) It's different for me as well. I haven't had maps like these since Feb of 2011. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Clinton said: It's different for me as well. I haven't had maps like these since Feb of 2011. GHD-1 was a bit before I got heavily into wx boards. If mby was ever in the thick of that one, I don't recall seeing anything about it. What I do remember is being somewhere public that was playing TWC and them showing 15-25" across all of SMI. Too bad they were so far off the mark. GR had like 17" and I think they were the Jackpot winner in SMI. Most of us came away with a disappointing 7-10 inches. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, jaster220 said: GHD-1 was a bit before I got heavily into wx boards. If mby was ever in the thick of that one, I don't recall seeing anything about it. What I do remember is being somewhere public that was playing TWC and them showing 15-25" across all of SMI. Too bad they were so far off the mark. GR had like 17" and I think they were the Jackpot winner in SMI. Most of us came away with a disappointing 7-10 inches. I scored 24 inches which is the largest 24 hr snowfall in history for MO. I remember the wording from the National weather service "Historic and potentially life threating storm" it was the first blizzard I had ever experienced. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Snowman Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Northern Illinois looking like the place to be on the 0z NAM. Let's see what the GFS shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMT Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Nam is north 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 0z NAM way north 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 At this rate - DSM entering the pic again. Still a long ways to go and liking trends 3 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Clinton said: 0z NAM way north 45 miles south of me is 9”. Do I have to think about retrieving the towel I threw in earlier? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 0z HRW FV3. Only goes to 60 hours but shows snow into Nebraska. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, CentralNebWeather said: 45 miles south of me is 9”. Do I have to think about retrieving the towel I threw in earlier? The models have covered a lot of ground the last few days. Your still in it! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlgamer Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 00z NAM puts me at 11.8" and right down the middle of the track. But that was a pretty big shift. The way the models keep jumping around I wouldn't be surprised to be missed to the north or south or maybe actually get hit. Not sure really...lol 3 Quote 23-24 seasonal snow total: 17.8" (as of 3/9/24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, mlgamer said: 00z NAM puts me at 11.8" and right down the middle of the track. But that was a pretty big shift. The way the models keep jumping around I wouldn't be surprised to be missed to the north or south or maybe actually get hit. Not sure really...lol Watching the news tonight none of the forecasters wanted to attempt to predict amounts. I don't blame them! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, CentralNebWeather said: 45 miles south of me is 9”. Do I have to think about retrieving the towel I threw in earlier? No. Don’t fall for it. You’ll only be disappointed, again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlgamer Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Clinton said: Watching the news tonight none of the forecasters wanted to attempt to predict amounts. I don't blame them! No kidding! "We may have a major snowstorm or nothing! Stay tuned!" 3 1 Quote 23-24 seasonal snow total: 17.8" (as of 3/9/24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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