We have only had 4 freezes so far, and it has not gotten below 32.

Sure, I guess. We've had many mild autumns over the last decade and it didn't really mean much for the winter. No two years are the same, but this has the feel of a 2021-22 or 2017-18. Maybe not the greatest winters, but they threw a few bones.

Yeah, we’ve hit 33 here once so far this winter. Other winters that were late like this one? 2008 and 2016….2024 continues that 8 year cycle IMBY. Hopefully with similar results later on. Some other noteable years that took into December for a first freeze is 2018 and 2021. Those also lead to great things later on. It’s a very IMBY centric stat but first freezes taking until December to hit have lead to some amazing winters.

Fair enough The overall look for areas east of you was a baby step in the right direction though.

I guess, but it's hard to ignore the glaring lack of freezing mins thus far for many places. We've seen it before with cold ENSO autumns though.