I really think this could be a slow fall and winter very few storms some could be strong but overall a bit quieter, definitely leaning towards slightly warmer than normal for most any potential of real chilly conditions would probably be late Jan or more into February. I'm very certain we are at least one snowfall this winter for Willamette and Puget Sound Regions that marks up to an inch any other snowfalls or greater accumulations I'm not confident on. Just not seeing an all out impressive fall or winter as of now.