snow drift

12 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

December 1978, you mean, and you're right December 1990 barely did as well with the second blast.

So this would be the first time in 34 years if it happens. And first time in January since 1950.

Yes, I fixed my post. I fat fingered it.

21 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Spokane has only had subzero highs on six occasions, I believe: 1884, 1888, 1950, 1964, 1968, and 1989. This Euro run shows it happening a seventh time, and getting colder than some of those years.

Don't forget December 1978 and December 1990.

3 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

I think drift might live in one of the few parts of Spokane that actually gets the PSCZ.

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11 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

No. No 80 degree sunny summer days for you. It's either Dubai or Reykjavik. No in between.

Seems like it these days.

6 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

By the time you get into the second half of June one or two strong showers can easily make the difference between above average and below average. This is after all a Mediterranean climate.

Most below average days involve precipitation of some type.

The sun came out after some beneficial rain. You can't beat it.

1 minute ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

I give you a lot of crap, but it’s kind of interesting to observe how Tim might post if he lived in a significantly drier climate.

The rain hasn't been that bad this spring. The cloud cover has been off the charts. Last spring was scary. A dry spring going into a hot summer is never something that you want. At least precipitation is trending more towards normal this year.

2 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Spokane’s semi-arid.

It definitely is. It is a humid continental climate with dry summers. Spokane Valley is the same or it can be classified as a Mediterranean climate with hot summers.

3 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

Spokane is losing its desert status.

Spokane's streaky. 

1 minute ago, Kayla said:

I think we'll see a nice dry stretch after next weekend but I'm fancying another pretty strong trough as we head into the third week of June through early July. The longer we keep the 4CH in check the better IMO.

I wouldn't be surprised by a 60s and drizzle 4th of July. We're due.

2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

The SSTA map right now does not look dramatically different than it did one year ago.    The ENSO regions are a little cooler but the overall configuration is quite similar.    This in no way implies there will be another 1,000 year freakish heat event.  Probably not in our lifetimes.   But maybe the overall pattern is actually going to quiet down significantly after the middle of June... which is pretty typical.

37 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

The models seem to be latching onto more of a -PNA / -EPO look in the longer range.  That would mean much more pleasant NW flow.  Simply insane how wet it's been...especially east of the Cascades in relation to normal.

I would love a Canadian high pressure. It would clear out the clouds for a day or two.

5 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

I guess it’s hard to me to understand the magnitude of complaining this year after how spring and early summer have gone the last decade. The other shoe had to drop at some point and this is just one year versus ten. Our climate is warming and drying in the dry season into the long term, so  years like this become more and more of an outlier as time goes on.
 

Anyway, throwing a hot dog on what I see as kind of silly posts given the context of our climate seems like a better alternative to engaging each and every time. We already have enough preference based arguments here.

Andrew and TacomaWaWx have been enjoying the spring this year. I don't have any problem with you or anybody else enjoying it, too. 

1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

Not sure why you have it in for me all the time. 

Everyone knows you're out of control with the weenie emojis for people who dare to like anything other than 24/7 rain.

I did an edit to the post you quoted here.  There are about 10% of past winters that are good.  Not sure how you thought I meant they were all great.

Him and his weenie emojis

1 minute ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

I agree. Nothing worse than delusional people.

I expect 80s and sunshine this December. Am I asking too much?

Spokane received 1.5 inches of precipitation in May. 1.55 inches is average. Spokane Valley received 3.35 inches of precipitation in May. 1.7 inches is average. It can really vary over short distances.

1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Well obviously the landscape is significantly different over there.    Spokane averages about 1/3rd of the annual precip of SEA.    

True, Coeur d'Alene averages around 27 inches of precipitation annualy. Spokane, which is a little farther west, averages roughly 16 inches of precipitation annualy. 

18 minutes ago, Timmy Supercell said:

To be fair I was remembering some of the time I lived west of the cascades. Both GEG and LMT do average warmer highs than PDX but June gloom doesn't last the entire month, or almost never did.

It's pretty streaky. Spring 2021 was inordinately sunny. This year is the polar opposite.

1 minute ago, Timmy Supercell said:

I was actually shocked to see you get that much. Klamath Falls is like Denver's sun days but half the snowfall annually.

But if you think about it, I guess eastern Washington is influenced by more frontal activity than southern Oregon. And I assume less shadowing on rainfall.

The Columbia basin is sunnier and drier than Spokane. I haven't looked at the numbers though. Everybody deals with winter inversions.

2 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Guess that explains the ponderosa pine studded hills surrounding Sea-Tac.

I never paid attention. I don't recall seeing any Ponderosa pines over there.

6 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

I’ve always considered Spokane’s climate to be much sunnier and drier than anywhere west of the Cascades.

Spokane averages 191 cloudy days per year. Seattle averages 201 cloudy days. The difference is negligible. The percentage of sunshine in Spokane is between 47-48%. Denver has a percentage closer to 70%. Spokane is drier than Seattle. 

https://www.move.org/gloomiest-cities-in-the-us/

https://smartasset.com/mortgage/cities-least-depressing-winters

3 minutes ago, Timmy Supercell said:

Definitely be careful with exhaustion. That reminds me last year a McDonalds in Wilsonville didn't have a properly working air conditioning and several workers were hospitalized in the heatwave. I think right before the peak of that heatwave occurred, my bro was already packed up and moved to Colorado. 

Dewpoints were pretty low. If they had been any higher, I would have either bought an air conditioning unit or stayed in a hotel.

Just now, Timmy Supercell said:

Don't most late Junes have 80's before the show? It's fine if you guys don't hit 90 until after 7/4, but I don't use 90 as a staple for summers in the PNW. I found it was pretty rare to stay socked under clouds and 60's thru 7/5.

It can happen up here. Sunny and clear days have been pretty rare over the last few months. February was our sunniest month. We did hit 82 last Thursday. KGEG hit 79. We're going to earn nice summer weather this year.

23 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

So 56 and rain isn’t the only alternative to a massive heat wave?  

I didn't enjoy last year's heatwave. I work a physical job, and I don't have air conditioning. If it had been 75-85, I would have been much happier.

1 minute ago, Phil said:

And that’s early June. Try visiting in August.

Ironically I’ll be in Saint Simon’s GA 8/7 - 8/21 this year. Going to be a test of will & strength.

I spent 10-12 hrs/day @ Ft Stewart in that type of heat for three summers. 90 degrees here is very nice.