TheBigOne

Thanks!  I didn't know that.  Pretty advanced stuff!!   When there isn't crap flinging going on this site can be exciting with weather knowledge.    If this forum was taken more seriously we could have more real scientists chime in here but most don't like the meat bees that fly around here.

Ummm what?   Sounds interesting but a little more clarity please?

"You can't see it.  It's electric!  You can't feel it. It's electric!   You can't do without it. It's electric!  But it's there.  Here there and everywhere!'    (The Electric Slide)

December 2013 and February 2014 say hi.

 

Then there were our numerous warm offshore flow events this spring.

 

I honestly don't know what kind of alternate reality you are living in.

I wasn't feeling good at the Feb 2014 either but I do remember the December 2014 event but still before that there wasn't very much but then again I've notice it doesn't take much either to effect temps.

I live in the Silverton alternate reality.  I can't tell from here when the gorge is having winds but I do want to know when was the last time we had a cooler then normal minimum month?  We've had plenty of cold maximums since 2006 but what about minimums?

Any chances that the sunspots might be the cause of our constant onshore flow?

Okay weather experts.  When will we have an extended period of offshore flow for extended warmth or cold?

Has anybody notice we haven't had a real stormy winter since 2006?   All the snow events we have had were done from cold onshore flow patterns but we just can't seem to muster enough offshore flow for extended cold/warmth.etc?

Even the 2008 snow and cold would've been more severe if we had any extended flow reversal as it was predicted to get down to 0F but never happened which would've made the snow cover last well into January!

So where does the line get drawn in communities that are (well) prepared?  

Is Bellingham WA more prepared for snow or do things still close down there like Seattle at the slightest coating?   Is it kind of like Baltimore vs Washington DC in preparedness?

How do you search for other locations in the area such as Bellingham as all I get are order forms.

Down here it's been a bit on the humid side actually but a good chunk of the time it has been nice but we couldn't enjoy it due to being booted out of our house from the seller to the inspector looking at it before our move. 

I doubt my post will even get seen in all the static but I'll give it a try! 

I hope we don't have a Carrington Super Flare like 1859 that nearly fried the then new telegraph system and caused some of the telegraph paper to catch fire.   Operators during the event found that the telegraph key would still operate even when disconnected from the battery entirely.

  http://www.solarstorms.org/SS1859.html   This link has an archive of ALL our solar flares and recently put old newspaper links into PDF files since the original links for a long time failed and I am glad the updated their site since it has been several YEARS of neglect.

During declining phases is usually when the strongest CME's actually happen in between quiet periods. 

Unless power crews are alert and can disconnect power supplies safely our infrastructure is at serious risk which people have appealed to the government to harden it to no avail.

Isn't dry cold fronts only a Midwest phenomena?   I didn't think we could get them here.

I have seen plenty of days in June were unusal chilly weather happens in the daytime as a result of cloud cover but what causes record lows at night?   What is the pattern and dynamics going on?   Is it the same pattern that causes record cold nights in the winter time only without snow cover?   It seems to not happen very often.

Salem amazingly has many sub 40F record lows!  The record low is right around 32F believe it or not but I don't remember where I found the statistics!  All I got were commercial sites on Google like Weather Warehouse wanting to charge tons of money for data 

I bet the people of that planet is wondering if there is life *out there*.

About east winds.  Why is it that damage is not as much with 70mph east winds compared to 45mph south winds despite those 70mph east winds lasting many more hours?

I hate spring! I am under constant medication for severe allergies and the medication makes me tired.  

I have seen some great historical photos of January 1909 in the Silverton area in some of the local interest historical photo books that they sell at local stores around here. 

Just how bad did it get here Andrew in 1909 and how would the reaction be today if the same scenario happened again?

They walked to school in snow waist deep, uphill, in bare feet, and it was a 5 mile trip.  At least that is what they told their children and grandchildren (and that was after milking the cows)

Don't forget chopping the wood and bailing the hay!  All this while MA made a hearty breakfast.    They would just have 5 minutes to make a post on here before scampering off to school in the snow with wolves chasing them behind all the way to the front door of the little red brick school!

Actually in those days this site could actually be in the form of a quarterly magazine that would be mailed to you bundled with all sorts of (hand drawn) weather charts with discussions of previous weather with an educated guess on what might be coming coupled with hints and tips for farmers and gardeners.

Schools very rarely closed back then because of snow. It took a serious February 1916 or December 1919 type event for school closures. We're talking 15"+. Society was indeed less pussified.

I finally read the replies as most of this spring I have been out of it with allergies like crazy and finally got under the right meds from the doctor helping me cope with it.    

Anyways that is very weird that schools didn't close back then.

Yup...he does well with ENSO.  I'm above average at calling ENSO, but Phil makes calls from amazingly long lead times.

Hi Snow!  I'd like some advice.   Didn't Phil said a few Decembers ago there would be decent chances of snow and cold which wounded up being unusually mild with not a single freeze despite upper air patterns trying to behave right?    I remember it was a REALLY weird and very gloomy December.  

Hi.   First of all what's up with the spam below?  Second of all will anybody reach the 30C mark for the first time of the year?  The big fat three zero?    Heck maybe pump it to 32C (90F)

If you do please post it here so we can summarize it on one thread instead of scattered in several hundred pages on the main thread which makes it hard to find those posts! 

Who is enjoying this April warm wave?    Is this a classic thermal trough pattern we normally get in the summer time hot spells or is this something else entirely?

Also about last Feb's snowstorm *if you can call it that since it wasn't region wide*.    How come those who did get hard didn't have severe power failures?  One would think with that amount of snow many trees would have fallen like the December 2008  snow and ice storm. 

Our lights didn't even flicker and in the 08 storm they were out for almost two days.

I yielded 0.8 of rain from yesterday's morning downpour that was really loud.  We normally don't hear the rain due to the over insulation unless it's a hard downpour.      It actually woke both me and dad up bright and early it was that loud.      It was literally a sheet of rain for an hour.     It was steady rain since 5am according to Dad.        The rain lasted until 9:30ish.  

The rest of yesterday was rather dull with only 1.5 hours of sun peeking out but today is much brighter with several outbreaks of sunshine.    Hopefully next week is bright as well with the warm weather and not the cloudy warm which makes the air feel oppressive  and trapped. 

It is 55F outside now or 13C if I am correct.      

Please keep all arguments between certain people either in a different thread dedicated to the issue or via PM if the other person is able to receive PM's which I have notice people tend to not empty their mail per speak when asking weather questions.

Because we live it here.    Its not something you can ignore.    Don't have to talk about it of course... but its a weather forum.    And when the weather is nice... I also say good things and even post pictures.  

And they are very pretty pictures too!

Looking at all the cities listed why is Silverton the warmest with only 10F (which actually matched my cheapo  weather station)   Even Stayton got deep in the single digits two nights. 

Is it impossible for Salem/Silverton to get deep in the single digits threatening the zero anymore?

Working backward through this set of statements here above (Not, so far as I can tell, connected particularly to anything previous to it, posted whether by yourself or anyone else.), and with my apologies, .. Why, don't we (presumably those of us either whether or both in or interested in what takes place weather and or climate wise where looking at the PNW), want to see more "blocking" develop in May/ June. ?

 

And then with this question otherwise, could you perhaps expand a bit more where regarding, elucidate with respect to, what you've said here above more initially, having apparently lead to the conclusion that you've pointed to. ?

Because if the blocking happens in May/June that will *waste* the potential energy for summer and then we enter a troughy regime with constant onshore flow or a trough to the SW of us that brings in higher humidity.   Last summer Salem Oregon had constant dewpoints of 58 to 60F which is rather sticky for here and I didn't enjoy it one bit in the afternoons!     Yuck!  And to think that New England the dews are 70F!  Sometimes 75F!   Sounds like pure hell!  

Last summer humidity was even worse during the Grants Pass fires as Mom kept all the windows closed since she was allergic to all that smoke so we had to constantly use the AC.  We usually only use it at night to sleep in the summer and leave it off most of the daytime as we have lots of shade.

The humidity was virtually everywhere south of Portland and places north didn't even notice until mid August I believe which is when Cliff Mass made a post about it as if he just found out and I felt like putting him into a headlock and scream "You just NOW figured it out?"

The night times for several weeks temps stayed around 65F as if we were New England and a few nights didn't go below 70F    I actually felt like Salem Oregon became Salem Connecticut except no thunderstorms until September.