Jesse

20 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Predictable copout.

You didn’t say anything. People are talking about observed climate trends that have been going on for years now and you are making obvious statements about long term climate uncertainty as if that somehow negates reality.

2 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

I just thought it was ironic that hawks twelve was now calling it the new normal. 

The cool thing is that most trends don't turn into runaway trends, and some even reverse.

Meaningless babble.

8 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Wasn't long ago that people were lamenting how they missed marine layer days, and the new normal was little to no marine layer in the summer.

It’s been trending that way, a couple marine layer mornings at a random location in King County notwithstanding. The trend is especially apparent the further south you go. How you could argue anything otherwise is beyond me, but then I need to remind myself who I am responding to.

Everyone here needs to start popping OxyContin so we can get on Jim’s level.

10 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said:

It was a commercial building fire in south Tacoma. 

D**n.

Just now, TacomaWaWx said:

I’m not sure what’s happening but yeah this is pretty crazy to see just a mile away .

Hope everything is ok man.

1 minute ago, TacomaWaWx said:

Oh f*ck 

That doesn’t sound very scientific to me...

Another 85+ day at PDX.

16 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Vanity vanity, all is vanity. 

The only thing on earth actually worth panicking over are some low clouds on a three day weekend. That is the truly noble path. Someday we will learn.

For my fourth of July wish, I am going to pray to Uncle Sam, Thomas Jefferson, and Hulk Hogan that we get a VEI 6-7 eruption somewhere in the tropics the next 18 months.

I hope everyone is having a happy fourth, and manages to find a glimmer of joy for even a moment on this dying planet of ours.  

2 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

I’m just about there sadly. My family isn’t going to move but it isn’t what I grew up with.

You will always have Indiana  

4 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

It's interesting. You can see the new growth appears fine, but the inner needles are burned and dead. Down in the valley I have seen the opposite on some trees. My guess is the trees where the new growth was burned are in much worse shape. 

I’ve noticed the same thing Andrew. 

Just about the worse timing possible to maximize the damage of an all time record heatwave, coming off a record dry spring.

If you think back to even five years ago, it’s really incredible how much the region as a whole has changed. There will come a point where it doesn’t feel like home anymore.

1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Even up here it had an impact. I'm fairly optimistic most of the trees will be fine long term, but many were burned. 

Hard telling. I want to be optimistic too but the reality is sometimes these mass die offs happen. None of these temperate rainforest species are built for 115 degree temps.

4 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said:

Very very sad. 

It just sucks to have to look at so much death. Especially this time of year, when all the plants and trees are usually green and vibrant.

The whole region honestly feels like it’s withering. I mean if you blur your eyes I’m sure you can still willfully ignore it for now, but anyone paying attention even a little can see how many native plants are wasting away. 

5 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said:

Yeah but some guy over in Idaho said it’s not that bad so better just ignore it it’s totally fine. 

What is really shocking is how widespread the problems are. Could be a pretty big step change in vegetation type in some areas. The hemlocks in particular have just been annihilated in spots, especially below 1,200’.  At least down here, calling them a lowland species might not be very representative of their range anymore.

59 minutes ago, nwsnow said:

Drove through the Coast Range today. Really heartbreaking to see the amount of dying pine needles on the trees. Lots of really stressed trees out that way. Lot of my own plants took quite a beating too. I have maple trees dropping dead leaves as if it were the fall, the entire top layer of leaves got burned to a crisp. Rhododendrons and Hydrangeas are starting to recover now but lots of burned up leaves on them. Hoping the climate will show some mercy but I can't help but feel that this dreadful sight of dying vegetation is something that will only become more common  going forward.

 

It’s pretty crazy. Things have already been struggling the last several years then last weeks event came along and just poured gasoline on the fire. Pretty sad to see.
 

82/60 day here. Morning clouds and afternoon sun. Nice day. Hoping the marine layer can sneak in again by morning.

Really gorgeous day here again. Mostly cloudy and 73/62. Even scored some morning drizzle, enough to settle the dust at least.

I think all the local vegetation is appreciating having a couple day reprieve from blazing sunshine.

I'll take a stab for PDX

97/59

103/65

105/69

93/71 (HCS!?)

88/65

9 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

Most of the places where the fires happened are far away from the marine influence.

 

I'm sure they were counting their blessings. I mean, losing your home AND having to deal with low clouds??

2 minutes ago, Pn1ct0g3n said:

Then why does it matter if the balance swings toward one or the other? Long term, life adapts, and you can like any kind of weather you want. I don’t judge you for your love of rain and fog. It’s all a matter of preference.

It’s been going in one direction (hotter and hotter) for a really long time now, and probably will for the rest of our lives. I just can’t see the enjoyment in something so destructive and life destroying but each to their own I guess.

Just now, Pn1ct0g3n said:

I’m case you’re wondering — no I’m not MML’s alt. I simply share many views with him. Drought and fire are terrible things, that I won’t deny. But they are also part of the ecosystem. But I don’t mind a little rain or fog here and there. I just feel that summer should be…summer, and it’s one of the few downsides to living here besides taxes and politics.

Rain and fog are also part of the ecosystem.

2 minutes ago, Pn1ct0g3n said:

I’m not celebrating prematurely—we saw a similar trend at the same time last year and then the pattern slammed back to northwesterly flow that continued all of July and into August, and at one point SD’s water temp dropped to 55F (!!)

Why would you want things to get even warmer after all of the drought and fire issues your state has seen in recent years? Aqueducts running dry, people losing their homes and lives, millions of acres of trees dying in the Sierras.

It’s like there’s four or five Mr. Marine layers posting over here now.