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SEA's only had five 70+ degree days before St. Patrick's day in history. Seems fairly likely tomorrow is number 6, but no guarantee.

1 hour ago, Front Ranger said:

Most of WY is a barren, windy wasteland. 

So is 40% of Colorado

How much snow you got now? Post pics!

1 hour ago, Phil said:

The storms in CO are visually spectacular. Best I’ve ever seen anywhere. No low level scud clouds obstructing the view of the parent cumulonimbi (basically never see the actual storm structure here, always obscured).

Also it seemed like every storm cell in CO Springs produced hail. Even the most mediocre cells. It hailed almost as frequently as it rained. Yet there wasn’t any strong wind or outflow with any of the storms.

So different from what I’m used to. Here every little cell has a gust front or imbedded wet microburst, and hail is a rarity confined to the most severe storms. I’ve gone years without seeing a single hailstone.

That's mostly because in CO the hail has a mile less time to melt on its way down right? Guessing it probably hails a LOT 5,000 feet above D.C. too.

2 minutes ago, Phil said:

Your sunset time today is 7:14pm. 8pm is nautical twilight there.

Like I said . . . approaching 8 pm. The sun sets in Phoenix at 7:40 on the Summer solstice. That's a near negligible difference from where we are already.

1 hour ago, Eugene-5SW said:

Like Phil said. Most of Arizona is on permanent standard time, and yet life goes on.

The exception is the Navajo Nation, which observes the typical DST schedule.

It works there because of their latitude. Near the Winter solstice, the sun rises in Phoenix at 7:30 and sets at 5:30. If Seattle were on permanent standard time, the sun would rise here at 9:00 and set at 5:20. I just think that's way too late for it to stay dark in the morning (and I'm not a morning person at ALL so would certainly appreciate the extra daylight in the evening.)

The sun also sets BEFORE 8 PM there on the Summer solstice which would be pretty awful. We are already approaching 8pm sunsets here and it's still March.

8 hours ago, Sunriver Snow Zone said:

You brought up multiple points I explained, did you even read my post completely?

To your first point, yeah no sh1t dude, only thing that changes is peoples work schedules relative to the sun schedules.

To your 2nd point that I already explained but I'll explain it again, in OUR PNW climate in this PNW forum the temperature outside is usually a good room temperature by the time people go to work, so there is never a need for AC in the morning, unless it is a extreme heatwave here. People have their AC on most in the afternoon/evening when they come back from work, and if the sun could set an hour earlier relative to when people come back from work, they won't need to have their AC on for as long. Again, I'm talking about a PNW climate, I don't much care for what it is in Maryland when I'm talking about DST on a PNW forum. Most nights here, you can open your windows, there is only a need for ac in the warm parts of the day.

Only thing I slightly agree with you on is a 4:30am sunrise is kind of early, but it hardly affects you if you're asleep, have some window blinds and you won't have a clue the sun is up until you wake up, and whenever you wakeup you will be glad the sun is out. Almost all sleep doctors still think standard time is better even in summer, I can't say I 100% know why because I don't, but I assume it is because a 9PM sunset isn't necessarily good for our sleep. They're the pros, I listen to them. 

1 last thing to my post that is probably too long I must ask, would you rather have a 8:50 sunrise and 5:30 sunset or a 7:50 sunrise and 4:30 sunset? The 2nd one will benefit the majority of work schedules. 

There's no perfect solution, but I like the way we do things now with the switch best.

4 AM sunrises in Summer would suck and I'd much rather that extra hour of daylight when people are awake. 4:30 PM sunsets in the Winter suck, but 9 AM sunrises in the Winter would suck even more. Can't have kids arriving at school in the dark.

8 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Where you chasing?

I'll be in Mazatlan. 4 minutes and 27 seconds of totality. Can't wait.

Enjoy your snowstorm @Front Ranger

Seems like good odds you get at least a foot?

Getting dumped on here in the CZ tonight.

7 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Took a jaunt out to the central Gorge this afternoon. It was chilly and breezy, temps in the 40s with rain showers at times. The grass widows are now in bloom, they are the first batch of wildflowers that bloom in the central and eastern Gorge, and are a regional harbinger of spring.

Did you step on them and throw them in the Columbia for the cause?

25 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said:

Never heard of a Maple Bar. Not sure if that’s a thing here.  And yellow mustard belongs on a hot dog.  Ketchup is pretty much reserved for Fries and not much else. 

Funny. The Wikipedia article for Maple Bars is only five sentences long and one of them is "Time Horton's and other Canadian doughnut shops do not sell maple bars."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maple_bar

@TT-SEA Euro is slower to come out on Pivotal.

What's it showing for highs Saturday and Sunday?

35 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

That would be Dallol, Ethiopia.

5 straight months averaging over 109 degrees and two months with lows over 101 is diabolical. Especially since I'm sure AC is very rare there. Can't even imagine living in that.

26 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

12z Euro has PDX at 67 degrees at 00z Monday (Sunday afternoon). Even adding 3-4 degrees for a cool bias, that would put them at 70-71 for a high. I wonder if Mark will go down with his 77 degree ship for Sunday on tonight’s 7-day.

Euro spits out 69 Sat and 68 Sun for PDX. Oddly it shows 69 both days for Everett though. Would be weird for us to be warmer than you in a pattern like this. If we are near 70 like that I would think mid 70's would be very achievable down there. Mark's 77 forecast at this range definitely feels click baity though.

12z Euro fully on board with temps near 70 both Saturday and Sunday. Low 70's in the foothills Saturday. Perfectly timed with peak warmth over the weekend and if things break down sooner with some mountain snow later next week that's best of both worlds IMO.

Hailing while the sun shines here. Dynamic.

40 mph in Everett and 36 at SEA.

24 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Anyway…here’s the EPS. Pretty nasty for this early. Not a lot I can say to sugarcoat it.

We just had two weeks of much colder than normal weather including one of the coldest first weeks of March ever, had multiple minor lowland snow events, TONS of mountain snow AND still have 4 more stormy, cool days with feet of mountain snow to get through before the ridge. A week of nice, sunny, warm weather after that isn't hard to put a positive spin on.

23 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

40s and sunny with dry air won't do much damage to the snowpack in the Cascades.  

Agreed. The mountain melt off is being vastly overplayed IMO.  Especially since they'll get like two feet this weekend and early next week before the ridge builds in. 50 and sunny with dry air and not much wind doesn't have a big impact on the snowpack.

16 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Great points. I was also just reading some VERY compelling research about water being wet.

Hint: Turns out it is!

There's a lot of people that would argue water isn't actually wet, but that it just makes other things wet.

https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/is-water-wet

9 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Maybe 70 by next weekend per 12Z ECMWF.  

Next weekend should be great. Hoping to Spring ski one day and golf for the first time this season the other.

1 hour ago, Chewbacca Defense said:

It's been flurrying to varying degrees of intensity all morning, finally stopping about 45 minutes ago.  I was surprised to see the temp is at 37, as the snowflakes have been the very light floaty types you see when it's well below freezing, as opposed to the partially melted heavy wet blobs screaming towards the ground in a kamikaze dive we usually see when it is right at freezing (or just above).

Dry air makes all the difference. BLI is 37 but the DP is 28, so it makes sense the snow isn't very wet.  Same reason frost or snow on the ground wouldn't be melting much in those conditions, but if it were 34 with a DP of 34 it would be.

12 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

I thought she lived in Enumclaw. But anecdotal evidence aside, there seemed to be a pretty big step change in their lows after they got super cold at the end of October. Almost like they tried to recalibrate it but overcorrected.

One lives in Enumclaw and the other lives in Olympia.

You might be right about the thermometer. Could be a combination of fewer clear calm nights than normal and a finicky thermometer. Or maybe they moved it closer to a runway? Doubt that though.