My point is the conditions I have been seeing out here are proof that it's still very much winter. A cold pool of this magnitude east of the cascades would simply not exist during a ridgy period 4-5 weeks from now. Strong ridging in late January can certainly produce some spring like days in areas not affected by the inversion, but we still have a long way to go before climo starts to make a definitive move toward Spring. We have had some great winter weather in February in the past. If the 12z Euro is on to anything we may be seeing more soon! 33, overcast and windy out here. Have you hit 60 yet today?