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That was actually @Sunriver Slush Zone. Nice girthy hands from his many mountain climbs. RIP.
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Propping up one outlier run in the face of so much overwhelming data? Almost feels like..... Maybe Phil can help him escape from there, though.
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Phil downplaying was the final ingredient, I believe.
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June 14 is the last daily record at PDX under 90 until September 28. Feels like that's about to change in a big way!!!!!!!
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Heat is definitely moving
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It wasn't just 2008-2011 in that era. Warm seasons 2005, 2007, and 2012 were all a noticeable difference from this decade. A month like June 2012 or September 2005 would feel pretty alien now.
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Yeah, the August 2023 heatwave was a beast and was absolutely on the level of any non-2021 heatwave for the Portland metro. Of course I'd wager that a 2023 level event will be more of an every 5-10 year occurrence now for us moving forward. 2021 level events will still be extremely rare, and then there's that happy space in between the two that we'll probably see every 15 or so years (e.g. PDX up at 110-111).
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Yeah those localized downpours there in May/June last year somewhat masked what was a pretty historically dry April-September for the metro. They changed the thermometer and the rain gauge!
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I think when someone literally says "here" in their comments it's usually understood that it's not meant to be reflective of every other "here" in the PNW.
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Yeah the Cedar Lake station is at 5.16" historically in June. It's definitely not anything like July or August from a precip standpoint. So getting over an inch as some model runs have been showing (but not the 12z Goofus) should be the expectation everywhere.
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Almost like there are lots of different climates in the region!
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Yes, I'm going by the closest long-term station to my area (about 5 miles away). How weird. PDX averages 1.6" in June. It too has a long ways to go.
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You realize that Battle Ground and northern Clark County is generally a lot wetter than PDX and SEA, right? https://wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?wa0482
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Historically June averages 2.40" of precip here. It's a slightly wetter month here than September. Have a long ways to go to reach that.
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West Coast Sports Talk and Other Banter
BLI snowman replied to Anti Marine Layer's topic in West of the Rockies
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Yes, pretty easily. 1992, 2005, and 2015 were the only other years that were remotely close. 1934 would be the only year I suspect may have been nearly as bad but their records don't extend that far back unfortunately.
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Yeah pretty mild night last night. Low of 62 at PDX and 60 at SEA. Marine push was a little underwhelming, but maybe a few sprinkles today at least if any of those showers survive the trip inland.
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Also, I did err here as it appears OLM actually hit 88. Apologies.
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87 at OLM today. Their 16th day already this year hitting 75+. Ties 1958 for the 3rd most on record YTD.
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The presence of the Sound also just keeps things a little more grounded around there. Being a much more maritime climate than areas immediately further south and east has a way of softening any warming signal just a bit, and diluting some of the outsized departures and ranges that more continental locations are capable of. And yeah, SEA in particular has had more erratic changes within their POR due to at times rapid development and subsequent sensor updates they seem to have made there. You can head due east at the same latitude out to the very rural and more continental Cedar Lake station (aka Timland) and find that they pretty consistently run warmer departures in the warm season than the Sound influenced boglands do. For those more transitionally continental spots like the Cascade foothills and the Willamette Valley, having just a smidge less marine influence in the summers now goes a longer way in terms of amplifying the warming signal to an extent.
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So 2025 actually was meaningfully cool compared to other recent summers in the region? Interesting hill to die on. And 7th, 6th, and 3rd place finishes are not "close" to 4th?
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And definitely less true elsewhere in the region. To Dare Duck's point earlier, in no way is SEA singularly representative of the region, and in this spring's case it's pretty obvious that it is not accurate to characterize it as "average" for the region for temperatures under any context. It was another warm to very warm season. For PDX, it was the 5th warmest spring on record (since 1941). It came in +1.4 on the regression line and +2.1 on the 30 year moving average. Fairly similar story for OLM, SLE, EUG, MFR, GEG, YKM, PDT, RDM etc. though the rankings obviously depend somewhat on the length of the period of record.
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You don't look at NOAA because of "context"? I'd expect a little more curiosity on those numbers from someone who claims the title as Holy Gatekeeper of PNW Regional Weather Statistical Clarity™ For example, you'll recall that there was some question last year over whether 2025 represented a meaningful "break" from recent summer norms or not. Here are Oregon's 10 warmest summers. 2025 tied for 4th Here are Washington's 10 warmest summers. 2025 is riding solo in 4th Also note the plethora of 2020s years on both lists. Very regional.
