Front Ranger

I was thinking the same thing, and it's definitely true for the warm season overall. But for April and to a lesser extent May, he should be well aware of how chilly it can be at times. April 2023, April/May 2022...even in 2021 there was a raw high of 50 on this date, and May ran -.6 at SEA. Mid 60s don't become the norm until mid May. Which, granted, is only 3 weeks away.

Record cold maxes are in the mid 40s this time of year for SEA...

This is really the only MacDonald's I ever crave.

Something tells me this won't lead to prices dropping back down, though.

But even in god-forsaken CA, you can still get a $1.50 hot dog and soda at Costco!

In a lot of places, fast food prices have inflated more than any other type of food - mainly because the cost of labor has skyrocketed.

300+ hour precip maps are back! But at least even the semi-realistic near term looks fairly wet.

It's more notable when PDX isn't the warmest station in the metro area. 1-3 degrees seems standard at this point.

You may have just solved the obesity epidemic, Andrew.

Have you tried their pieshakes?

May 2010 was frigid for the western half of the country.

Not so sure about that. That time frame for 2024 somewhat reflects the lingering winter pattern. The past month hasn't been as warm. Certainly not as warm as April 2010 was. You'd think if the anomaly pattern represented the "summer pattern establishing" it would be growing stronger as we get closer to summer, not weaker.

Yeah, I don't think 2012 is a good analog, was just looking at semi-recent years with hot summers in the middle of the continent. Seeing if there was any indication the summer pattern would be getting established by now.

Looking at the last couple really warm summers for the middle of the country, 2022 and 2012...the pattern definitely got established early in 2012, but it didn't really in 2022 (except in Texas). I think Phil and others are envisioning something more along the lines of 2012 this summer. But this spring, while warm in the eastern half of the US, has been a far cry from that one.

That's healthy. But deny it all you want, you also use it when it's convenient sometimes. Very human of you.

Yeah, that's wild. Even places like Jackson Hole, WY have never seen that much in June. I know Cheyenne did get like 8" in June 1947. That storm brought significant snow down to about 6500' in the foothills west of Denver.

I get the point, but I can still tease you - especially when you use that approach most when it fits your preferences/arguments.

Pretty impressive storm for almost May.

None of the Bend area stations appear to have ever recorded June snowfall (I know you're a bit higher up). Wickiup Reservoir west of La Pine and about 4,300' has recorded some once - .3" in June 1980. Assuming it wasn't actually hail, which I know has been occasionally recorded as snowfall some places. DEN officially recorded less than an inch of June snowfall a couple of times, both in the early 1950s.

It's almost like ENSO is just one factor among many...albeit probably the best single indicator as far as dominant weather patterns likely to play out.

None of us control anything, Tim. Why should you or anyone care about anything.

Nuggets are so fun to watch. Legends.

Not very American of you.

Looks like the rain is arriving just in time to ruin some late afternoon outdoor plans!