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November 2023 Observations and Discussion
mlgamer replied to westMJim's topic in East of the Rockies
TOP has similar wording. My point forecast shows a 20% chance for snow Friday with a high of 41, so there's that. -
November 2023 Observations and Discussion
mlgamer replied to westMJim's topic in East of the Rockies
The first half of November is over and TOP has officially received 0.01" of precip for the month...basically nothing. The dry weather should continue for at least the next three days so that would make the first 18 days in November with essentially no precipitation. -
November 2023 Observations and Discussion
mlgamer replied to westMJim's topic in East of the Rockies
Yeah, start busting the drought by having a major, maybe historic, ice storm would be about right...lol -
With the drought still well established here, it is scary to note that it can be extremely dry over the winter. Look at how dry it was in Topeka these back-to-back winters: Winter of 2001-2002: 0.16" of precip from 11/25/01 - 1/17/02 (54 days). Winter of 2002-2003: 0.05" of precip from 11/15/02 - 1/14/03 (61 days). Basically from mid-November to mid-January for two years total not even a quarter inch of precip fell!! Hopefully this winter doesn't end up similar to these.
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November 2023 Observations and Discussion
mlgamer replied to westMJim's topic in East of the Rockies
Yep, that's pretty much what I'm thinking so far... -
November 2023 Observations and Discussion
mlgamer replied to westMJim's topic in East of the Rockies
Same here as the dry weather pattern continues indefinitely. Not much else to say really. Hopefully something changes for the better. -
I ended up with 1.23" overall from the recent rains. Glad to have that but could have used much more. Now back to dry weather for the next week at least...
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This has crossed my mind as well. For example, the four Octobers of 2017-2020 all had early season measurable snowfall here with three of the four winters being nothing special with below normal snowfall. Only one winter (2018-2019) had above normal snowfall.
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@MIKEKC @Tom Yeah this pattern definitely has future potential after already delivering big time in many areas this time around. Should be interesting to see what happens in future cycles over the winter. I've been noticing this nice baroclinic zone showing up for the next system over the weekend. I haven't had one of these park in a favorable location near me for quite some time it seems. Need a nice strong storm to ride up this baby, if not this time then maybe in future cycles.
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Maybe by calling out Mother Nature, I shamed her into making it rain here...lol. Then again, it appears the bulk of this heavy rain could miss me to the NW. Gets pretty comical... Check out this graphic from NWS Topeka. I'm in the purple area (.25 - .50) just SW of Topeka. Pretty crazy totals in places.
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I have received only 0.37" so far while areas less than 60 miles from me have flash flooding. Whatever long term weather pattern that causes me always to be on the short end is still in place. @OttumwaSnomow and @Bryan1117 I hear you guys. I too believe that micro climates exist. An area roughly in a five mile radius around me has missed the beneficial rains pretty much every time this year. This goes on and on. It's hard to explain this to people because it seems so ridiculous. It's especially noticeable in winter. It'll be 10 years in February that I have had a snowfall above 6" while areas near me have done much better. It's all very strange.
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Not to be a Negative Nellie, but I don't have confidence in any of the global model solutions so far. For example, latest GEM (12z) has only around 0.30" QPF for me over the next seven days. That's not gonna cut it. I keep thinking of the old adage "never forecast rain in a drought". Still, plenty of time for more twists and turns...
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The drought continues unabated here and there is no significant rain in the forecast anytime soon. It has been particularly dry since August and it was already very dry before that. Officially, only 3.43" of rain have fallen since August 1st which is only 31% of normal. In fact, each month has gotten progressively worse in terms of percent of normal: Aug 45%, Sep 34%, Oct 14%. Not a pretty picture.
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It now seems possible I could get no precip at all from this system. Maybe one quick line of storms Thursday evening/night if they even develop in my area. Just can't get a decent rain around here anymore.
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I can't even imagine the number of times we could have said this in recent years.
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Yikes! As Yogi Berra once said, "It's like deja vu all over again."
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Well, I sure wouldn't mind seeing a few strong panhandle hooks track through my region as they used to do in the days of old. Hopefully some big share-the-wealth type of systems this winter.
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The drought monitor map continues to be a mess for central, southern and southwest areas. @Clinton (and others) have mentioned some hope that a wetter pattern may begin soon so hopefully improvement is on the way.
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Just for fun and LRC related, here is Oct 7, 2022 and the GFS forecast for Oct 7, 2023 (12z 10/04 +72 hrs). All of the global models pretty much show this. I highlighted the 570 line. Well...not all that different really from a year ago but surely we'll have a different WETTER pattern I HOPE. lol
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As a kid growing up in the KC area, we always had the adage that when it snowed in Flagstaff it would snow in KC a couple of days later and for the most part seemed generally true reflecting snowstorms moving out of the desert southwest into the plains. Me and the family spent a night in Flagstaff in 2015 on the way to the Grand Canyon and Zion. Flagstaff was very picturesque with the smell of the Ponderosa Pines in the air. Hope you do get a chance to enjoy some healthy snow storms there!
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Same old song and dance here. Only .07" of rain overnight with no substantial rain in the forecast for at least the next week or longer. @Tom you could relocate here and notice no real differences from Arizona. Just sayin...
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You do not often respond to my posts so to be clear I believe the LRC is pretty much what Lezak claims it to be. At the time I was noting that though a "unique" whether pattern sets up each year we had had very similar winters over recent years. Overall I think there are other longer term patterns that the LRC works within that explains why we have below normal snowfall for years on end for example. Like I said, Gary understood my point and laughed about it.