Front Ranger

Have Nino to Ninas typically been very active? I know Nina springs in general tend to see more severe weather mid continent.

Yeah, my lowest total here was 2010-11 with 29".

I've moved around a few places, but in general for Denver metro it's in the 55-65" range. Far western and southern suburbs average more like 65-80.

Helluva a lot better than the brutal Nino period of 2014-2016. After the recent storm, I'm ahead of you with 49". Looks like the seasons you've beat me are: 2022-23 (by far), 2018-19, 2016-17, and 2011-12.

Nice couple of maps from the NWS of the 3/14-3/15 snowstorm. It was the biggest snowstorm for the metro since the March 2021 blizzard, which also occurred on Pi Day (see video and pic below). That one brought 20-30" to most of the area. VID_20210314_115444039.mp4

What's your snowfall total for 2023-24 now?

Accurate stats for SEA and OLM, but if you look back further at other old stations, it's happened earlier. The old Olympia Priest Pt station hit 74 as early as 3/10, and hit 75 on 3/11/41 and 78 on 3/16/47. The Seattle city office station hit 74 on 2/29/68, again on 3/3/65, and then 75 on 3/11/41. The old UW station hit 75 on 3/10/34. In other words...new records for those stations, but pretty low hanging fruit based on broader context. There were some major March heat events from the 1920s to 1940s that weren't recorded by the modern airport stations.

Seriously, some species have and will suffer but holistically, the earth is more resilient than stupidity. And we don't control as much of that as we think.

We've done that. It's happening, as fast as the market will allow. Obviously oil isn't infinite, but EV batteries ain't exactly eco-friendly either. It's a challenge that I hope we're up to, but that's another story. Regardless, I don't think we're on a path to annihilation in the near future (due to fossil fuels), as some would have you believe.

My stance: humans like to think they know more than they really know. If you look at history, at the history of humans but also of science in particular, you will find a lot of hubris. You will also find a lot of people looking to use a cause to further themselves. And anything for political gain. That being said, I do believe AGW is real. I think the earth was warming, and that warming has been enhanced by human activities. I also think warnings of this warming destroying the ecosystems are overblown and often motivated by more than logic.

Two wrongs = right then? Look...I think there is room for disagreement but also some reason here. There's a happy medium between complete denialism and what OAC and her ilk have peddled.

Make a post of substance. I believe in you.

And you'd have to live in a cave to believe that climate alarmism isn't a very big player in the modern landscape. It's not a "fringe thing", plenty of people in the mainstream believe this , including members of congress.

Is James Hansen a qualified climate scientist? You tell me who we should trust.

I'm not talking about the news media. Again - if you'd like, I'm more than happy to link the statements made by "climate experts" the years I cited, saying we had 10 years to act or we're screwed. Many names revered by the climate alarmist community. It's a repetitious cycle. Nothing new under the sun.

What isn't? Are the alarmist headlines of today "mainstream" or not? Makes an easy copout if Al Gore or James Hansen or whoever says something but it turns out to be nonsense.

You really want me to link those predictions? Google makes it easy.

Quillayute is one station, and they have been prone to more extremes in recent years. But my point was that the temps seen today overall are not close to unprecedented for the the Puget Sound region in March.

I'm reading we have 10 years or less to alter the fate of humanity. Make drastic changes now or DIE. Of course, they said the same thing in 2019. And 2009. And 2006. And 1989. But maybe this time they're right.

The Puget Sound region has seen 80+ this time of year more than a century ago.

Climate change is always the easy answer.

Second pic is awesome. I remember that view. But the first pic...something not of this earth going on there.

I like this. Not throwing in the towell on Howell.