Don’t worry bud, I’ve already removed @Meatyorologist from the forum as a warning for anyone who gets too enthusiastic for what is really not all that great weather. As we transition into a gardening lifestyle forum, we (as you have probably suggested in the past) will limit meteorological discussion to those who have a strong understanding and academic background in both child psychology and snowmapology. @SeanNyberg will help better align the community with our new and mature expectations.

You guys do better in -PNA? ENSO correlates with the N. Pacific High. I think it may have just been bad timing for you guys historically. Sometimes it will take years to move the jet stream north or south. Here's minus Strong Nino's though.. I see your point Strong events haven't necessarily been great for you guys.

Most of our coldest winters are neutrals. Stronger isn't always better, but it does almost always lead to the dreaded cold spring.

Why though? I think they just occurred more during the decadal -NAO time. Weak El Nino's have also been blocky.. so people are like, give me a Weak Nino or a Weak Nina lol

00-01 ended up being a good Winter in the east. I also had a surprise 20" snowstorm on jan 25, 2000 that was suppose to be flurries that morning (hours before)! That was one of my favorite storms all time. Consecutive La Nina's tend to be colder during the end, or years after. They have a pretty good way to set the stage for some colder weather. That this year will make 4/5 La Nina years makes me interested to see how the next few Winter's go. Sometimes the predominant pattern at the time is just too much to overcome,, I remember the turn of the century, there were a lot of unfavorable "global warming" factors at play. I feel like we've had some cold in Canada the last few Winters, even going back to 07-08. The pattern is more -PNA now imo.